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Post by Bluebottle Tue Feb 11, 2014 8:15 pm

Yeah, my monitor is not the best. That probably played a part.

I do like both the idea and handeling of the darkening effect, I just felt it got slightly overpowering at times. Though how much of that is down to the monitor, I don't know. probably not an insignificant amount. Which was why I mentioned maybe highlighting the faces and, you know, adding some focus in certain parts. Though I'm guessing that would be a monumental undertaking?

And a red tint should also be quite apparent as one clearly sees Mount Doom erupting over the mountains of Mordor in Minas Tirit in the film. Never really felt they got the real perspecitve as to distances across there.

But all in all a very effective effect.  Nod

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Post by Pettytyrant101 Tue Feb 11, 2014 8:43 pm

I have thought of providing percentages of 100 setting for brightness, contrast and saturation levels to match how it looks in my editing program, but with every tv and monitor being so different I figured its best for folks to set their own levels too suit (this sort of thing is quite common now even when watching professional films at home, they reckon most people watch stuff with their settings wrong fr what they are watching. People seem to think whatever their tv is set it will be fine for everything and never alter it, when really you shouldn't be afraid to adjust your settings depending on what you are watching)

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Post by Norc Sat Feb 15, 2014 10:02 am

“I did find it essential to stay true to the spirit of Tolkien; every day I was on the set with the book in the one hand, and the script in the other. Whenever Peter Jackson strayed too far from Tolkien, I shouted: ‘Yes, but on page 497 of the book it says otherwise!”
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Post by Pettytyrant101 Sat Feb 15, 2014 11:14 am

I suspect the by the time of reading TH script he had given up trying entirely!

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Post by Radaghast Sat Feb 15, 2014 3:08 pm

Poor Ian...must have shouted himself hoarse.

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Post by azriel Sat Feb 15, 2014 3:11 pm

yep, & no wonder poor Mr Lee looks old & tired, its not just the accumulation of years that got to him, it was Peejeers blind refusal to abide to some degree to the books  Rolling Eyes

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Post by Bluebottle Sat Feb 15, 2014 6:17 pm

Love that story.  Very Happy 

Like there weren't enough good reasons to like Ian McKellen. Laughing 

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Post by bungobaggins Sun Feb 16, 2014 2:51 am

Norc wrote:“I did find it essential to stay true to the spirit of Tolkien; every day I was on the set with the book in the one hand, and the script in the other. Whenever Peter Jackson strayed too far from Tolkien, I shouted: ‘Yes, but on page 497 of the book it says otherwise!”
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at least someone tried.

That must be from when they shot LOTR? I'm sure they just threw the book in the trash while filming The Hobbit.

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Post by Pettytyrant101 Wed Mar 05, 2014 12:25 am

Been thinking of redoing the LotR's edits over the summer- no major changes to them as they exist (unless anyone has any new ideas) its mainly because I have better editing programs now and more skill and experience using them, and there are some things I feel could be done better now (particularly the filtering but also one or two cuts).

Would anyone be interested if I did?

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Post by azriel Wed Mar 05, 2014 12:39 am

If you feel the need & feel comfortable doing it, IL give it another go ?  Smile

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Post by David H Wed Mar 05, 2014 12:40 am

I'd definitely send the flashdrive around the world again for a LotR upgrade. I need some more Who sometime soon too. I figure I'll wait on the DoS edit though until you've had a chance to integrate it with There and Back Again.
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Post by Pettytyrant101 Wed Mar 05, 2014 12:59 am

That'll be after the EE comes out then Dave (assuming there is anything in it worth adding!)

As to Who you have some big stuff to get what with all the 50th shows and the Doctor trilogy (which includes the 50th ep in the middle). but on the plus side you have till Autumn to be up to date before the new series starts!

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Post by Ringdrotten Wed Mar 05, 2014 2:56 pm

Of course Nod

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Post by Mrs Figg Wed Mar 05, 2014 6:44 pm

can you make Lothlorien blue again? I never saw the green version but in films they use green for poisonous place not Elves. or filter out some of the blue and make it whiter and more sparkly like a Crystal. Maybe if you make it as neutral coloured as possible without making it b/w, so it looks like starlight.

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Post by Pettytyrant101 Wed Mar 05, 2014 7:30 pm

A starlight ewok village look is what I was trying to get away from in the first place.

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Post by Mrs Figg Wed Mar 05, 2014 7:58 pm

well I prefer starlight ewok to poison dwarf green  Suspect 
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Post by Pettytyrant101 Wed Mar 05, 2014 8:28 pm

Leaf green!- and I much prefer it to the ewok look as the ewok look is the one thing Tolkien (via Sam) makes clear Lothlorien is not about- its green and growing.
"I thought elves were all for starlight, but this is more elvish than anything I can think of, its like being inside a song'- or words to that effect.
So the one thing in a purist edit thats out is the one thing PJ puts in- perpetual starlight.

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Post by Mrs Figg Wed Mar 05, 2014 8:56 pm

its not all starlight. the farewell is at Golden dawn.
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Post by Pettytyrant101 Wed Mar 05, 2014 9:00 pm

The farewell scene is not filtered - its only the arrival , greeting, Sams song and the mirror scene that is.

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Post by Mrs Figg Wed Mar 05, 2014 9:18 pm

but the Army of the Dead is bile green, green is always associated with spooky, whilst blue is not.
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Post by David H Wed Mar 05, 2014 9:28 pm

No you're right. Blue is associated with Smurfs.
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Post by Pettytyrant101 Wed Mar 05, 2014 9:31 pm

 Very Happy 



I have two issues with the blue- the first is the one I already gave, and the second is that it follows Moria- and where Tolkien quite rightly goes from the long dark of Moria to the sunlight and green of Lothlorien, it gives the reader relief and a sense of life and warmth again after the darkness and loss of Gandalf, its the light that heals and preserves. PJ for some reasons makes it all dark, either Moria dark or night dark.

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Post by Radaghast Wed Mar 05, 2014 9:57 pm

In Tolkien's universe, the proper plural is Smurves Razz

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Post by Pettytyrant101 Wed Mar 05, 2014 10:00 pm

Laughing 

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Post by Mrs Figg Wed Mar 05, 2014 10:17 pm

Smurven?
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