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Pettytyrant101 wrote:Horses for courses Malick- I stopped watching 10 because I couldn't stand the RTD deux ex machina and the awful 10th Doctor (90% of the time awful anyway)

Moffat has yet to do something as appallingly lame as end an entire episodes worth of set up and cliff hanger with a literal hand wave by a character

Moffat couldn't plan the War Doctor as the circumstances evolved as Eccelston didn't want to come back

But it doesn't mean he didn't plan or know who had done it or why- I think its clear he did- most fans had worked out for themselves already- that episode just confirmed it for most.

Pettytyrant101 wrote:Then how do you explain Moffat being able tell Alex Kingston the plot details ahead of time if its not planned?
Your statement doesn't make any sense in light of the evidence.

Obviously small details have to be left to change as there is no way to predict the filming situation when the story comes round to that point-actors/locations ect may not be available, ideas that have come in-between might modify the outcome, some things might need rethought to fit the circumstances- but its clear Moffat seeds his story ideas well ahead of time.

To say otherwise is both to be wilfully blind to the simple facts- like telling actors what's coming up a year to even two ahead of time, or all the story arcs in Moffat era.

Pettytyrant101 wrote: Moffat has yet to do something as appallingly lame as end an entire episodes worth of set up and cliff hanger with a literal hand wave by a character (using an unexplained device that had never been seen before in RTD era Who or so much as hinted at)
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Pettytyrant101 wrote:probably. I get bored quickly.- Figg

Yes, especially when making spurious claims with no back up!

Spoiler:

Pettytyrant101 wrote:Simm's master had better things to do than sexually obsesses over the Doctor. But then Moffat made her a woman and we all know every woman in the Doctors orbit wants to hump him dry.- Figg

Its amazing what goes on in your head seeing as it obviously has nothing to do with what's in the actual episodes. It could not be made any clearer or any plainer throughout with Missy that her aim is to to get her old friend back. To get him to see things more form her point of view- its behind her entire actions with the cybermen, and its behind the entire intention with pairing him up with Clara. Sex has nothing to do with it- to quote Missy herself on the subject of sex (she could be talking directly to you in fact)-

'Oh, don't be disgusting. We're Time Lords, not animals. Try, nano-brain, to rise above the reproductive frenzy of your noisy little food chain, and contemplate friendship. A friendship older than your civilisation, and infinitely more complex.'

she says: while grabbing him by the Dalek balls and giving his nose a good sucking.

Of course that doesn't fit with your Moffat hates all women mantra so best you just ignore it and make something up in your head instead  

unfortunately it does fit, as does her jealousy of Clara. She acts like the stereotypical bunny boiler.

(you might also like to watch the recent comic panel with Karen and Alex in which Alex, to rousing applause and cheers, praises Moffat writing of female characters, including her own.

That's called sucking up to your boss. I don't want to watch the clip its probably cringeworthy.

Luckily though all the women who have worked for or acted in Who are all too stupid to see what an obvious sexist Moffat is and how much he hates all women- good job women are all to thick to realise it!)

You mean like all the 'thick' women who over the years have voiced their disquiet and concern over the explicit sexism of moffats female characters only to be silenced by misogyngistic fanboys and Moffat apologists? not to mention ridiculed by the man himself?

Pettytyrant101 wrote:while grabbing him by the Dalek balls and giving his nose a good sucking.- Figg

This is what I mean by stuff in your head not on screen- she never does the former, ever, and she only does the latter once whilst pretending to be someone else to throw him off, knowing how uncomfortable it would make him- if you want the Master and the Doctor flirting you need only watch Simm and Tennant together.

And of course it means you are ignoring everything that actually happens or is said, such as the above dialogue or in Death in Heaven where she explicitly gives her reason- "I just want my friend back!"
But hey you've never stopped in the past from preferring your own made up stuff over the actual episode content so why start now.

'unfortunately it does fit, as does her jealousy of Clara. She acts like the stereotypical bunny boiler.'

Again in your head- none of this is on screen- its Missy who chooses Clara as companion and sets them up to meet. She has a ball with Clara in the Witches Familiar, there is not a single hint of jealousy in their relationship- god knows how you managed to come up with that one.

'That's called sucking up to your boss. I don't want to watch the clip its probably cringeworthy.'

Except only Alex still works for him. Any of the other female actors, or production managers, or script editors or directors, or producers that have worked on the show in the Moffat era could easily have come forward in all this time if they believed it- the reason they don't is they don't think he is, simple.

And I'm sure you wouldn't want to hear Alex- after all why take the view of a woman who has worked in the acting industry on both sides of the Pond in major hit shows and been at her craft for decades, when you take the word of a bunch of folk online looking for stuff to moan about who have never so much as met the man, let alone worked for him.

' not to mention ridiculed by the man himself?'

Moffat on accusations of sexism-

'"It's a complicated issue. I never quite know how to respond. The general point being made by these people is correct. We need better female role models on screen."

Yeah chock full of ridicule there    

Or perhaps Karen Gillans views on it, post the show when she has no reason to do anything other than answer honestly-

"I just don't understand that. "I feel like [with Amy Pond] I had a very rounded, interesting, flawed and layered character to play. I wore skirts but Steven Moffat had nothing to do with that. He doesn't care about costumes. So I don't really understand [the criticism] if I've got to be honest."