Re: Waiting for 'The Battle of the Five Armies' [2]

by Pettytyrant101 Sun Nov 02, 2014 2:07 pm

I find it somewhat sad that all that creativity, all that skill in costumes, sets, props ect was all wasted in the service of those scripts. Sad

by Pettytyrant101 Sun Nov 02, 2014 2:46 pm

From the DOS EE I think, about the BOFA.
Seems we can expect the usual over the top silliness from PJ judging on the computer renders- at least one of the giant dwarf statues going for a roll over folk, and a giant troll of some sort with people clambering all over it Mad

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by malickfan Sun Nov 02, 2014 6:08 pm

Pettytyrant101 wrote:From the DOS EE I think, about the BOFA.
Seems we can expect the usual over the top silliness from PJ judging on the computer renders- at least one of the giant dwarf statues going for a roll over folk, and a giant troll of some sort with people clambering all over it -

I can hardly wait Razz

Since the BOFA isn't really described in any where near enough detail to stretch to 45 minutes screen time, I'm actually quite looking forward to see what Jackson has up his sleeve, it's probably going to be overblown nonsense, but at least it will be surprising...

by Pettytyrant101 Sun Nov 02, 2014 6:39 pm

it's probably going to be overblown nonsense- Malick

And thats probably an understatement!

by Eldorion Sun Nov 02, 2014 6:42 pm

I'm wondering how long Helm's Deep and the Pelennor Fields were in comparison to this. I'm not sure either were 45 minutes long. But both of those battles were broken up by other scenes of characters not present for the fight, whereas the BOFA occurs as nearly everyone introduced in the previous "episodes" comes together for the grand finale.

by malickfan Sun Nov 02, 2014 6:48 pm

Eldorion wrote:I'm wondering how long Helm's Deep and the Pelennor Fields were in comparison to this. I'm not sure either were 45 minutes long. But both of those battles were broken up by other scenes of characters not present for the fight, whereas the BOFA occurs as nearly everyone introduced in the previous "episodes" comes together for the grand finale.

That is a good point, by the time of the actual battle in this Dol Guldor should be resolved, and Jackson will be pinning all his focus on the BOFA, even with six or seven different viewpoints on the battle, it could become rather drawn out and confusing for something of a coda to the actual story of killing Smaug, ROTK had the advantage of winding down a bit with lots of quiet character moments between the different Battles, Jackson has got a lot to play with but also a lot to fit in in 150 minutes...

by TranshumanAngel Mon Nov 03, 2014 12:50 am

malickfan wrote: ROTK had the advantage of winding down a bit with lots of quiet character moments between the different Battles, Jackson has got a lot to play with but also a lot to fit in in 150 minutes...

This is a good point. Even if the narrative denouement of the battle itself was kinda ridiculous - the green scrubbing bubbles of the dead - Jackson succeeded in generating a sense of dread and foreboding, often through smaller moments (e.g. Pippin and Gandalf). I can't see much of that in the third Hobbit movie given all the major set pieces that are said to be crammed in, but we'll see.

by Pettytyrant101 Mon Nov 03, 2014 1:35 am

Will there be time between the statues collapsing, people on carts, war pigs, giant trolls and who knows what else Pj is throwing in there, on top of all the stuff Tolkien already put in there for any quieter moments?
Or will the 'quieter' moments consist of PJ remaking/ruining ('giving a nod' to if your incredibly generous and have the patience of a saint) the Boromir death scene, over and over, and just dropping the sound out?

by azriel Mon Nov 03, 2014 7:19 am

Your forgetting the slo-mo, those desirable little moments in the heady, blood thirsty moments of battle when all is crashing down around you, & theres blood & carnage everywhere, people dying, people crying & then, light a wonderous Heavenly light, a slo-mo appears, ( cue angelic singing ) It doth shineth down from afar & clothe 2 heroic, symbolic ( shambolic )........hero's ? ""when all other actors go out"" Its at this point you want an X-Man like 'Quicksilver' to dash in & alter things ! Laughing

by RA Mon Nov 03, 2014 7:57 am

Well at least Tauriel dies at the end. There's some good to come then Shrugging

by azriel Mon Nov 03, 2014 8:04 am

thats it RA, say it like it is Very Happy

{{{ hide all the Athelas, just to make sure ! dont want her bloody coming back ! }}}

by Elthir Mon Nov 03, 2014 3:00 pm

By the way, now that I have seen this Tauriel character... erm, I've a linguistic niggle. I'm pretty sure the primary stress should be tAUriel instead of tauriEl -- which I think I heard more than once in the second video game or 'film'.

Heh, like it matters much after that ridiculous, cartoon of a barrel ride fight scene, or many other silly scenes, b'still!

by halfwise Mon Nov 03, 2014 3:06 pm

azriel wrote: thats it RA, say it like it is
{{{ hide all the Athelas, just to make sure ! dont want her bloody coming back ! }}}

Oh she can come back, so long as she's glowing away in some safe and appropriate place that isn't Middle Earth. Like my bedroom.

by Pettytyrant101 Mon Nov 03, 2014 3:08 pm

I'm pretty sure the primary stress should be tAUriel instead of tauriEl- Elthir

I think they use both, I am sure there is a tAUriel in the first part of DOS and its tauriEL from there on in.

'so long as she's glowing away in some safe and appropriate place that isn't Middle Earth. Like my bedroom.'- Halfy

Wouldnt you be cheaper with a nightlight? scratch

by azriel Mon Nov 03, 2014 3:09 pm

by Elthir Mon Nov 03, 2014 3:12 pm

Yes I did hear tAUriel too Petty, that's right (in case I implied otherwise).

So two different pronunciations? I can hear the EE explanation now... one is a Silvan dialect (Legolas actually is a Silvan pronunciation, but it's still lEgolas as far as primary stress goes)... or something.

Actually I'll never hear the EE about anything, but in theory.

by halfwise Mon Nov 03, 2014 3:18 pm

Pettytyrant101 wrote:
'so long as she's glowing away in some safe and appropriate place that isn't Middle Earth. Like my bedroom.'- Halfy

Wouldnt you be cheaper with a nightlight?

Nightlights are too predictable. I prefer the randomness of the Tauriel light.

by Pettytyrant101 Mon Nov 03, 2014 3:22 pm

Well dont blame me when after a week she starts declaring love for your sock drawer or something.

by halfwise Mon Nov 03, 2014 3:51 pm

Given her track record I wouldn't be surprised. Rolling Eyes

by RA Mon Nov 03, 2014 5:02 pm

Pettytyrant101 wrote:Well dont blame me when after a week she starts declaring love for your sock drawer or something.

Well she'd make googly eyes and play it cool for two days first. That'd at least be entertaining.

by Pettytyrant101 Mon Nov 03, 2014 5:10 pm

And there is plenty of scope for ill-judged misplaced innuendo about the contents of Halfy's drawers.

by halfwise Mon Nov 03, 2014 5:44 pm

Halfy wonders about the content of his drawers himself at times. scratch

by Tinuviel Thu Nov 06, 2014 2:38 am

So the final trailer comes out tomorrow...

by Eldorion Thu Nov 06, 2014 5:15 am

Indeed. I think this is worthy of a new thread. Nod

Edit: http://www.hobbitmovieforum.com/t1081-the-battle-of-the-five-armies-final-trailer

by bungobaggins Sat Nov 08, 2014 5:16 am

Listen to snippets of the BOFA soundtrack.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Hobbit-Original-Picture-Soundtrack-Special/dp/B00PBEN6P6/ref=sr_1_4?s=dmusic&ie=UTF8&qid=1415354154&sr=1-4&keywords=The+Hobbit