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This most welcome ad played right before a video I was watching. Tom Hardy and Leonardo DiCaprio in an amazing-looking western-realism-type film? I mean, a man can only take so much. Or a woman, for that matter. It appears to be Hollywood greenlighting Inarritu to do whatever he wants after the success of Birdman. I for one could not be more pleased! I like his fluid cinematography and editing hijinks. The hype, as they say, is real. I suppose.

Werner Herzog will be releasing a documentary about volcanoes next year. It's called Into the Inferno and I, for one, am quite looking forward to it!

I can see you like Klaus Kinski ? Id like to see that film "Fitzcarraldo", His Nosferatu was creepy Hes like Jack Nicholson, doesnt need make-up, hes naturally scarey !

Well it's more Werner Herzog that I like, but Kinski is pretty great too!

Fitzcarraldo is a mus-see! Aguirre, Wrath of God is excellent in terms of weirdness and character-study, but the former film has better production and a more compelling story in my opinion.

Are you a fan of Herzog's documentaries?

I'm getting The Enigma of Kasper Hauser, which is a drama I believe, through Netflix soon. So I'm looking forward to that quite a lot.

I loved "Cave of Forgotten Dreams"! Herzog somehow strips the 30,000 years away and makes you feel like you're looking at paintings that were done yesterday.

I also recently watched "Happy People-A Year in the Taiga", which is a Herzog 2-hour edit of a Russian TV documentary series about Northern Siberia and the people who live there. Another wonderful film!

Herzog is a master storyteller.

The Mill and the Cross is another film that literally looks like a painting, its got Rutger Hauer.

Bravo.

Agree with their distaste for the use of the word "nerd" in the media and elsewhere.

They really hit the comedic beats in that video. Lovely cynicism.

bungobaggins wrote:

S.P.E.C.T.R.E Trailer No 2:



Pretty decent trailer, the action sequences and cinematography certainly very look promising! Anyone else getting a Blofeld vibe from Christoph Waltz.

Very pleased to here the OHMSS theme tune crop up briefly, i.m.o its  still the Bond theme to live up to (yes I actually really like OHMSS   ):

(yes I actually really like OHMSS Sofa

Christoph Waltz is great but I hope this isn't another Col. Landa retread.

yes I actually really like OHMSS- Malick

You are not alone. I don't think he is up to the role of Bond but its one of the best written, its very well shot, it has all the usual Bond tropes but down in inventive ways, and Diana Rigg and that heartbreaking scene in the car at the end. One of the most human Bonds, and one thats a closer to the books character than many, in fact I didn't enjoy another Bond after that until Daltons first- which again felt like a step closer to the source material.
Ive thought the newest ones have been ok but nothing more. They have tried to get back more to the source and the character of Bond and that I approve of but there is something about the way they are presinting it that lacks punch for me, they all feel a bit, flat.

More hokum I do like a bit of Tarantino

Pettytyrant101 wrote:yes I actually really like OHMSS- Malick

You are not alone. I don't think he is up to the role of Bond but its one of the best written, its very well shot, it has all the usual Bond tropes but down in inventive ways, and Diana Rigg and that heartbreaking scene in the car at the end.

Agreed on all points, an intelligent screenplay not afraid to take its time (its the longest Bond I think, but It never felt long, lots of character development, and less of the eye rolling quips), excellent Cinematography (the dodgy back projection aside, the ski chase and assault on Piz Gloria still look impressive today, It's Chrsitopher Nolan's favourite Bond and seemed to heavily inspire one of the set peices in Inception...)

One of the most human Bonds, and one thats a closer to the books character than many

Lazenby was always going to fail to some degree, he wasn't a trained actor, and came after Connery (who to be totally honest, I'm not a massive fan of, seemed kinda arrogant/bored by the end of his tenure) but I think he holds his own well enough as a one time Bond-he's definitely the worst, but for a rookie actor he could have been more wooden, it's hard to say where he could have taken the character (he was offered a 7 film contract, but turned out down partially out of being a arrogant n*b at the time, and partially down to the advice of his agent who didn't see Bond lasting much longer, bet he regrets that one...) but as you say he's more human, even fallible than some of the others, less of the arrogance but still charismatic, though he can still certainly throw a punch. I haven't read the books so I can't comment on how close to Fleming he is...but I'm guessing he was nearer than Moore...

in fact I didn't enjoy another Bond after that until Daltons first

I'm not really a big Fan of Moore's tenure, the scripts mostly veer between overblown nonsense and predictable mediocrity, the cinematography takes a nosedive, and Moore was too old to start with and dosen't have a great deal of range as an actor. That said for all its excess, his tenure remains great fun to watch. the set pieces and humour, coupled with Moore's genuine charisma (and the feeling that by and large the filmakers are in one the joke-it dosen't take itself more seriously than it needs to) mostly guide things away from camp into silly, but large scale fun.


The Living Daylights was the first I saw and remains my favorite Bond, it's overlong and generic, the villains are weak, and I certainly wouldn't classify it as the best, but its a fun large scale thriller, and Dalton remains in my eyes the most underrated Bond, he's a suave charming man on the outside, but you get the sense he's a weary burnt out killer on the inside (he's the only Bond who looks like he'd throw a punch willingly, which helps) had Dalton taken over 2 films earlier I think he'd be rated much higher than he is (though I did get the sense Dalton was a tad uncomfortable with the one liners)

Ive thought the newest ones have been ok but nothing more. They have tried to get back more to the source and the character of Bond and that I approve of but there is something about the way they are presenting it that lacks punch for me, they all feel a bit, flat.

Quantum was b*llocks (though that may partially be down to the writers strike and a very rushed pre-production) but I thought Casino Royale and Skyfall were decent thrillers in their own right, and tonally felt closer to the 60's than you'd expect-lots of action, brilliant cinematography, beautiful Bond Girls, and a harder more blunter Bond, but I do think after the overblown nonsense of Die Another Day they went too far in the other direction, Craig's films feel more serious than they should and kinda introverted, they are still solid thriller, but feel kinda...jaded?...we've still got the scale and the glamour so why not bring back some of the fun?

I thought this was quite neat, an OHMSS trailer edited in the style of the Casino Royale trailer:

I'm guessing he was nearer than Moore...- Malick

Moores run is to the source material what the hobbit films are to Tolkien!

I like Connery in the early ones- just becuase he is more a proper spy with interludes of spectacular action.
In Dr No he does spy stuff, when he first arrives he puts dust on stuff ect in his room and when he returns he checks it all to see i f anyone has been in- actual spy stuff- there is less and less of this and more of Q'a gadgetry instead as the films go on until very soon the whole notion Bond is any sort of 'secret' agent is a bad joke.

Pettytyrant101 wrote:
I like Connery in the early ones- just becuase he is more a proper spy with interludes of spectacular action.
In Dr No he does spy stuff, when he first arrives he puts dust on stuff ect in his room and when he returns he checks it all to see i f anyone has been in- actual spy stuff- there is less and less of this and more of Q'a gadgetry instead as the films go on until very soon the whole notion Bond is any sort of 'secret' agent is a bad joke.

Yeah the first three films are solid, mostly believable spy thrillerss, the next two are more early blockbusters with more punching than necessary...


Alot of people say OHMSS would have been better if Connery did it, a more down to earth send off without the 'jokes' of Diamonds are forever, but I'm not sure personally, I don't think Connery would ever agree to the downbeat ending for one, and I always felt his performance was kinda...arrogant? In the later movies he just seemed kinda bored, and with the relatively low key storyline and serious tone in OHMSS I think it might have been a distraction, it's probably for the best it remains a bit of an oddity in the canon...

I don't think the notion of Bond as a 'secret' agent really works in the movies, he certainly seems fond of blowing up big buildings in plain sight of people...

Pettytyrant101 wrote:

Moores run is to the source material what the hobbit films are to Tolkien!

He's probably Jackson's favorite

azriel wrote:More hokum  I do like a bit of Tarantino

Don't see many westerns these days. Definitely gonna check this one out

Alot of people say OHMSS would have been better if Connery did it, a more down to earth send off without the 'jokes' of Diamonds are forever, but I'm not sure personally, I don't think Connery would ever agree to the downbeat ending for one, and I always felt his performance was kinda...arrogant? - Malick

I think the arrogance is part of the character, certainly my reading of it from the books. Bond is pretty arrogant at times, and cold and often distant.
The books are certainly more 'real', Casino Royale for example you find out about the main villians history and background by reading the official MI6 Documents and files Bond is reading.

And I think Connery could have done OHMSS, I dont think the ending would have put him off he has played characters with tragedy before, and he can certainly do the more serious tone- if you've never seen Outland I'd highly recommend it, its a scifi remake of High Noon-



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bungobaggins wrote:

First time I'm hearing about this one, can't wait!