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Re: The Bigger, Badder, Even More Serious Thread [2]
by Mrs Figg Sat Mar 10, 2012 1:02 am
yuck that was grotesque and fa.. er funny at the same time 
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Re: The Bigger, Badder, Even More Serious Thread [2]
by Pettytyrant101 Sat Mar 10, 2012 1:36 am
I've always said those Bankses were a strange lot and now we know! Bloody hysterically funny lot, but strange.
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Re: The Bigger, Badder, Even More Serious Thread [2]
by Pettytyrant101 Sat Mar 10, 2012 1:41 am
I know it's hard for some people to tell us hairy, spectacled Americans apart, but come on! -David (I hope)
You're lucky with these buckie goggles on I haven't asked you to dance yet!
You're lucky with these buckie goggles on I haven't asked you to dance yet!
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Re: The Bigger, Badder, Even More Serious Thread [2]
by David H Sat Mar 10, 2012 3:15 am
You're even luckier. You've never seen me dance! 
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Re: The Bigger, Badder, Even More Serious Thread [2]
by Wisey Banks Sat Mar 10, 2012 4:16 am
Oh how we love
to see Davey dance
in his tightly hugging
stripey pants
all the girls
think he's curvy -
and all the boys
secretly pervy -
oh how he pirouettes
and waltzes
heightnin' breathin
quicknin' pulses
even Scots
with buckie glasses -
pimply ponces
of lower classes -
between fingers
give sneaky glances
hold their breath
when he prances
and then at night
frisky and sweaty
Dave trudges home
to girlfriend, Betty
A rather handsome
cow is she
Very cuddly
perfekkly free.
From "Wordsworth in Love, 1877."
Channelled by Wisey Banks.
to see Davey dance
in his tightly hugging
stripey pants
all the girls
think he's curvy -
and all the boys
secretly pervy -
oh how he pirouettes
and waltzes
heightnin' breathin
quicknin' pulses
even Scots
with buckie glasses -
pimply ponces
of lower classes -
between fingers
give sneaky glances
hold their breath
when he prances
and then at night
frisky and sweaty
Dave trudges home
to girlfriend, Betty
A rather handsome
cow is she
Very cuddly
perfekkly free.
From "Wordsworth in Love, 1877."
Channelled by Wisey Banks.
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Re: The Bigger, Badder, Even More Serious Thread [2]
by David H Sat Mar 10, 2012 5:18 am
{{{Hush dear, I'm sure he meant it as a compliment.....what?.....well but dearest, technically you ARE a cow....now don't take it like that....I didn't mean....Betty? Betty? HERE BETTY! HERE BETTY! COOOME BOSSY BOSSY COW!!!}}}
Well thanks a lot Wisey!
Now how am I going to milk in the morning? 
Well thanks a lot Wisey!
Now how am I going to milk in the morning?
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Re: The Bigger, Badder, Even More Serious Thread [2]
by Wisey Banks Sat Mar 10, 2012 6:03 am
She wandered lonely as a cow -
She was a cow in fact, and how!
A georgeous cow, the cat's miaow!
but now
with hornéd head hung down I do avow
oh so low bowed
Oh Betty Betty
misunderstood
plodding lonely in field and wood
crying tears if but she could
her milk all curdling
and that's not good
while at the farmstead
hand to head
David H lies on their bed -
a great big bed with bedstead -
wishing he was now dead
for his bulky sulky Bossy wife
had left him - and that's not nice! -
to plod around the fields all white
with snow and sleet and ice -
her mournful moos disturbed the night
Oh that David H deserved it all
such a shallow Man (I now recall)
he broke her heart, she ignors his call
he used her up - and much much more -
he's the kind of farmer we all deplore!
Oh how she wanders, lonely Bossy -
among snowy grass and stones all mossy
with the saddest eyes, no longer glossy
her mood so sad, no longer flossy -
Oh poor poor milk-laden Bossy!
'Bossy' is David's name, it's clear,
for his lovey dovey bovine Dear -
which he often whispered in her ear
as they lay in bed so very near
(making love to your cow isn't queer
in America, or so I hear! )
But Betty will never come back to him
he's shot his bolt, he's tipped his tin,
he's thrown their love into the bin
of history, Do you hear the din
as he cries in the night, all grim?
"Oh Betty Betty, Lover, Cow,
I do declare, I do avow,
One day you'll think me not quite so foul,
And on that day, I'll tell you now,
I'll treat you like my Dairy Queen - and how!"
Channelled from the Facts by Wisey Banks.
She was a cow in fact, and how!
A georgeous cow, the cat's miaow!
but now
with hornéd head hung down I do avow
oh so low bowed
Oh Betty Betty
misunderstood
plodding lonely in field and wood
crying tears if but she could
her milk all curdling
and that's not good
while at the farmstead
hand to head
David H lies on their bed -
a great big bed with bedstead -
wishing he was now dead
for his bulky sulky Bossy wife
had left him - and that's not nice! -
to plod around the fields all white
with snow and sleet and ice -
her mournful moos disturbed the night
Oh that David H deserved it all
such a shallow Man (I now recall)
he broke her heart, she ignors his call
he used her up - and much much more -
he's the kind of farmer we all deplore!
Oh how she wanders, lonely Bossy -
among snowy grass and stones all mossy
with the saddest eyes, no longer glossy
her mood so sad, no longer flossy -
Oh poor poor milk-laden Bossy!
'Bossy' is David's name, it's clear,
for his lovey dovey bovine Dear -
which he often whispered in her ear
as they lay in bed so very near
(making love to your cow isn't queer
in America, or so I hear!
)But Betty will never come back to him
he's shot his bolt, he's tipped his tin,
he's thrown their love into the bin
of history, Do you hear the din
as he cries in the night, all grim?
"Oh Betty Betty, Lover, Cow,
I do declare, I do avow,
One day you'll think me not quite so foul,
And on that day, I'll tell you now,
I'll treat you like my Dairy Queen - and how!"
Channelled from the Facts by Wisey Banks.
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Re: The Bigger, Badder, Even More Serious Thread [2]
by David H Sat Mar 10, 2012 7:49 am
Not to worry. Ol' Betty's just moody is all. By mid morning she'll come lumbering back with her tail between her legs like all the times before. Come milking time she'll remember she needs me. 7 quarts is a lot to carry, even for that udder.
{{{Insufferable meddling Bankses! I used to think Petty was exaggerating, but if anything he was being kind }}}
{{{Insufferable meddling Bankses!
I used to think Petty was exaggerating, but if anything he was being kind }}}
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by odo banks Sat Mar 10, 2012 8:00 am
My brother is off doing his channeling trance thingee, Mr H, but before he faded off, he asked me to let you know that we are thinking of you in your dark hour... Shame about your lovely wife, Betty.... hee hee... funny brother of mine! hee hee! He said that you said Betty was a cow... Not a very nice thing to call your wife, what... hee hee.... But we can get a bit annoyed with our loved ones at times... Now, I wouldn't want you to think we Bankses are meddling sorts, but if we can lend a word of advice at any time, please let us know. I'm here to help! 
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by Mrs Figg Sat Mar 10, 2012 12:33 pm
Wisey how you make me giggle, that was hilarious 
I am jealous of your channelin skills though.
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Re: The Bigger, Badder, Even More Serious Thread [2]
by Gandalf's Beard Sun Mar 11, 2012 2:43 am
Pettytyrant101 wrote:Interesting piece on the BBC news- thought I'd give a few highlights here in light of it being Womens Day- seems there's a long way to go yet in the struggle.
This is advice from female journalists to women traveliing to particularly ME countries.
Keep conservative
What may seem unremarkable for a woman to wear in London, New York, Dubai or Paris can be interpreted as offensive or even as a come-on in other cultures. In places such as Afghanistan, especially in rural areas such as Helmand, you may never blend in as a Western woman, but wearing a headscarf to cover your hair, a long-sleeved shirt and some baggy trousers help lessen the stares and deflect at least some of the attention, if not the curiosity. Even a tight T-shirt can bring the sort of attention you just don't want or need, and obviously cleavage is a no-no.
Wear a wedding ring
Even if you are not married, do think about taking or wearing a wedding ring. That applies as much to women travellers as to female journalists. It can help deflect unwanted attention, even if it doesn't stop questions about your marital status. Similarly, it can help to carry photos of your children or your family. Everyone can relate to the idea of family, and it's also a way of beginning conversations and making links with people, whether they're interviewees or those you meet and chat to on the journey. If the worst came to the worst and you were kidnapped, it's also a way of "humanising" yourself, and trying to get your captors to relate to you as a person. Luckily, unlike some colleagues, I have never had to try that out for real. But photos of family can certainly help establish a rapport - not least with other women - while filming abroad.
Avoid wading into large, mainly male, crowds on your own
In some societies, in particular conservative ones where men and women don't mix much in public, its good advice to move in large crowds with a male colleague walking behind you. This is especially the case in large boisterous election rallies. In the excitement of the moment, you could attract unwanted attention. I shared this advice with a Canadian colleague in the late 80s in Pakistan. She ignored it, perhaps believing she had to be in the midst of the action to do her job. She was so badly groped she had to return to the hotel.
Don't be aggressive
The fastest way to make enemies in a male-dominated environment - Afghanistan or the Middle East for example - is to be aggressive. What we may regard in the West as normal assertive behaviour may be seen as disrespect for authority - in most cases here, authority means "male authority". When you show respect for authority you gain allies. When I was held for 20 hours by the Egyptian military, merely for being present at a demonstration, I took care to address my captors respectfully and my experience was a lot better than it could have been.
Don't always look men in the eye
In many conservative Muslim societies (Saudi Arabia in particular) looking a man in the eye may be seen as being "too forward" or even loose. You'll find that men don't look women straight in the eye, as a sign of respect. That doesn't mean that you have to behave meekly. Be very clear and straightforward just don't look a man straight in the face, especially if he is not looking you in the eye.
Be careful with shaking hands
In conservative societies, men do not like to shake hands with women and if you do, it might send the wrong message. Again, it may be taken as a sign of "loose" behaviour. I never offer my hand first. I wait till someone offers their hand to me.
The ful list is here-
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-17288577
The irony is that most of this advice also applies a lot to what the author would consider "safe" western Countries and Cities.
GB
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Re: The Bigger, Badder, Even More Serious Thread [2]
by Gandalf's Beard Sun Mar 11, 2012 2:50 am
Nice to see Wizey is still up to his old tricks.
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Re: The Bigger, Badder, Even More Serious Thread [2]
by David H Sun Mar 11, 2012 5:21 am
Indeed.Gandalf's Beard wrote:
The irony is that most of this advice also applies a lot to what the author would consider "safe" western Countries and Cities.
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Re: The Bigger, Badder, Even More Serious Thread [2]
by Pettytyrant101 Thu Mar 22, 2012 12:27 pm
Ok this is going to be a big post- or rather a big list of shame- but it does explain why the current Tory led UK government is so keen on breaking up the NHS in England and Wales and privitising most of it.
Lord Ashcroft: Conservative benches and funder - Until 2010, held investments in two private healthcare groups.
Lord Ashton - Conservative - Shares in Marsh Inc insurance brokers and in Zurich Financial Services AG - In a review for the Department of Health of the NHS litigation Authority - written by Marsh Inc, it recommended involving opening up clinical negligence cover over to private insurers. Lord Ashton also has shares in a private dental company called Smilepod Hygiene Ltd.
Lord Ballyedmond: Conservative - Chairman of pharmaceutical company Norbrook Laboratories.
Lord Bell: Conservative - Chairman of Chime Communications group, whose companies include Bell Pottinger, and whose lobbying clients include Southern Cross, BT Health and AstraZeneca.
Lord Blackwell: Conservatives - Chairman of Interserve, consultancy to NHS and private healthcare firms. Involved in PFI hospitals. Head of the Prime Minister's policy unit under John Major from 1995 to 1997 and was previously a member of Margaret Thatcher's policy unit. Was a partner with McKinsey and Company (involved in NHS bill)
Lord Blyth of Rowington: Conservative - Senior adviser to investment bankers Greenhill. Former Boots Chemists deputy chairman. Tory Donor.
Lord Boswell - Conservative - Has shares in Reckitt Benckiser which produces drugs for the NHS amongst other health institutions.
Baroness Bottomley of Nettlestone: Conservative - The former Conservative Health Secretary Virginia Bottomley is a Director of BUPA, the health insurance, private hospital and care group.
Lord Brittan - Conservative - Advisor to Teijin who are a conglomerate of global companies. One part of the business is the medical and pharmaceutical business group. Teijin Home Healthcare Limited supply products to the NHS and Teijin Pharma Ltd provides pharmaceuticals to the NHS.
Baroness Byford - Conservative - has shares in Reckitt Benckiser (personal care). which produces drugs for the NHS amongst other health institutions.
Lord Carrington - Conservative - has shares in GlaxoSmithKline pharmaceuticals, suppliers to the NHS. shares in Unilever plc. Unilever has a European venture capital arm Unilever Ventures joined with a company called Vectura to form a pharma arm to their company.
Lord Chadlington: Conservative - Chief executive of Huntsworth communications group with several lobbying firms. Huntsworth Health chaired a meeting on commissioning on behalf of Healthcare Communications Association, a group whose members consist of PR agencies and pharmaceutical companies.
Lord Coe: Conservative - In February 2011 became Director of AMT-Sybex Group, IT supplier to the NHS.
Baroness Cumberlege of Newick: Conservative - Former Tory health minister, runs Cumberlege Connections, a political networking firm that works "extensively" with the pharmaceutical industry. Used to be non-excutive director of PR firm for healthcare huntsworth PLC, of which Lord Chadlington is Chief Executive. Former executive director of healthcare consulting firm MJM healthcare solutions.
Lord Dixon-Smith - Conservative - has shares in Vodaphone group plc - Vodaphone produced a report by themselves, which showed how they can help drive efficiency in healthcare costs promoting the use of SMS texts which go via them and other mobile phone companies. South-Central ambulance service NHS trust have appointed Vodaphone UK as its communications partner.
Baroness Eccles - Conservative - Has shares in GlaxoSmithKline (Healthcare) - GlaxoSmith Kline. GSK is the UK's leading supplier of COPD medicines.
Lord Edmiston - Conservative - Shareholdings in Bupa Finance plc
Lord Feldman of Elstree - Conservative - Shares in BTG pharmaceuticals - BGT are a UK company that manages commercialisation activity in pharmaceuticals. BTG acquired Biocompatiibles in 2010. Biocompatibles supplies medical devices.
Lord Feldman - Conservative - Shares in Inverness Medical, now Alere, a global healthcare company who work with many PCTs including the 'healthcheck programme.'
Lord Fink - Conservative - Director of multiple companies including: The Global PR network Ltd, which covers the health and medical sector, in which he has shares. Chairman and Director of Zenith hygiene Group plc, an approved NHS supplier. Shares run independently by Lombard Odier the company in charge of his share portfolio include: Abbott Laboratories ltd (pharmaceuticals), Allianz SE, which offers medical insurance, Prudential plc, which offers private health insurance, Siemens AG, which supplies medical equipment to the NHS, Vodaphone group.
Lord Forsyth of Drumlean: Conservative - Sits on the board of the Centre for policy studies. Included in his biography interests are 'privatisation' and 'healthcare'. Senior adviser to Evercore, bank involved in huge healthcare deals. Newly appointed Senior Managing Director of Evercore Mr Maisonrouge said: 'Evercore has advised on some of the most noteworthy healthcare transactions.'
Lord Freeman: Conservative - The ex-health minister is chairman of the Advisory Board of PricewaterhouseCoopers, which claims to have “been at the heart of shaping [healthcare] reforms and working with clients to respond to the opportunities they present”. Director of Parity Group plc - Parity group plc won a contract with NHS direct to develop and support a new Health Information Search Portal for £1.4 million.
Lord Garel-Jones: Conservative - MD of UBS bank, whose healthcare division earned the firm over $1billion since 2005.
Lord Glendonbrook - Conservative - Has shares in Ansell Ltd NPV (healthcare), Abbott Laboratories, supplies NHS with Lab equipment, reagents. Shares in Astrazeneca biopharaceuticals - The NHS is the primary customer for Astrazeneca medicines in the UK. Shares in GlaxoSmithKline Ord 25p (healthcare), GlaxoSmithKline (healthcare), Johnson & Johnson, which supplies the NHS. Shares in Novartis who threatened to pull out of the UK becaue the NHS safety trial rules. Shares in Novo Nordisk (pharmaceuticals) supplies NHS, shares in Pfizer Inc (pharmaceuticals) supplies NHS. Shares in Serco group, which has multiple contracts with NHS including PFI hospitals. Shares in Siemens AG, which supplies medical equipment to the NHS. Shares in Smith & Nephew, hip-replacement and bandaging group. Unilver plc, whose European venture capital arm Unilever Ventures joined with a company called Vectura to form a pharma arm to their company.
Lord Griffiths of Fforestfach: Conservative - Director of Goldman Sachs bank, provider of services to healthcare firms.
Lord Hamilton of Epsom - Conservative: Has a directorship with MSB Ltd (managing consultancy), who have NHS, Bupa and CareUK listed as their clients.
Lord Hayhoe - Conservative - shares in Abbott Laboratories ltd (pharmaceuticals, and medical products) supplies NHS.
Baron Higgins of Worthing: Conservative - Holds in excess of £50,000 of shares in Lansdowne UK Equity Fund, backers of private hospital group Circle Holdings.
Baroness Hooper: Conservative - Until July 11, chairman of Advisory Committee of Barclays Infrastructure Funds, one of the most experienced investors in hospital PFI deals.
Lord Howard of Lympne: Conservative - Senior adviser to Hawkpoint Partners, a corporate finance firm. Provide staff to NHS and Private Healthcare providers.
Lord Hunt of Wirral: Conservative - Partner in Beachcroft, a law firm that offers incisive analysis on the full range of government, parliamentary and regulatory matters in the health sector.
Baroness James - Conservative - has shares in AstraZeneca (pharmaceuticals). Shares in Reckitt Benckiser Group plc, which produces drugs for the NHS amongst other health institutions. Serco Group (business services), which has multiple contracts with NHS including PFI hospitals. Smith and Nephew (healthcare) supplies hip replacement and bandaging to the NHS.
Lord Lang of Monkton: Conservative - Director of Marsh & McLennan Companies that "help hospitals, insurers, pharmaceutical companies and industry associations understand the implications of changing policy environments".
Lord Lloyd-Webber - Conservative - Shares in Catlin Group Limited, began writing Healthcare Professional Liability insurance in London in 1994. They offer extensive knowledge of medical, healthcare and pharmaceutical markets. Shares in Smiths Group plc, which produces medical equipment. Shares in AstraZeneca (pharmaceuticals).
Lord Macfarlane: Conservative - Has shares in Prudential plc, which offers private health insurance. Shares in Aviva plc, which offers private health care. Shares in Smith & Nephew (Pharmaceuticals)
Lord Magan of Castletown: Conservative - Director of the SISK Group of healthcare companies. Member of the advisory board on Axa Private equity, which invests heavily in healthcare.
Lord Maple - Shares in Berkshire Hathaway Inc the company run by Warren Buffet - the conglomerate invests heavily in private healthcare companies
Lord Marland - Shares in Tristel Ltd plc - a leading provider of infection control products into the NHS. Shares in Jardine Lloyd Thompson plc - their website states 'the placing and serving of healthcare insurance...is a specialist field in which we excel.'
Lord Moore: Conservative - Shares in Johnson & Johnson, which supplies the NHS. Merck & Co inc (pharmaceuticals, Novartis AG (pharmaceuticals), which supplies the NHS. Shares in BT group, which is one of the largest suppliers of communications to the NHS.
Lord Naseby: Conservative - Was until October 2011 Chairman of and a share-holder in Invesco Perpetual Recovery Trust. Trust voluntarily wound down on October 27th 2011 - One fifth of their investments were in pharmaceutical and biotechnology companies.
Lord Popat - Conservative - Founder of TLC group Ltd who run private care homes. Lord Popat gave David Cameron a donation as a gift for £25,000 a week after the Conservatives' unveiled their health 'reforms'. David Cameron made businessman a peer shortly after getting into ten Downing street.
Lord Ribeiro: Conservative - Adviser on hospital reorganisation to PricewaterhouseCoopers (PWC).
Earl of Selborne: Shares in Prudential, which offers private health insurance.
Lord Sheikh: Chairman and director of Macmillan Sheikh plc - insurance and financial services which offers private health insurance
Lord Sheppard - Has shares in Diageo, a drinks company who have been awarded money to teach midwives in England and Wales on the dangers of alcohol.
Lord Tugendhat - Conservative: Shares in MetLife, which is America's largest life insurance company also operates in the UK
Lord Wakeham: Conservative - Advisor to L.E.K. Consulting, which specialises in helping private healthcare companies identify "growth and new business development" and "opportunities with the government".
Lord Waldegrave - Tory Adviser, UBS Investment Bank UBS bank, whose healthcare division earned the firm over $1billion since 2005.
Baroness Wheatcroft: Conservative: Business Consultant, DLA Piper (legal services) a global law firm providing lobbying services to “clients in the health and social care sectors”.
Lord Wolfson - Conservative - Shares in Cable & Wireless plc - Cable & Wireless solutions for the Health Sector are 'intended to meet all the communications requirements of the health service
Bishop of Gloucester: Has shares in Standard Chartered Bank plc, which offers private healthcare insurance.
Andrew Lansley - Conservative - John Nash, the chairman of Care UK, gave £21,000 to fund Andrew Lansley’s personal office in November 2009. In a recent interview, a senior director of the firm said that 96 per cent of Care UK’s business, which amounted to more than £400 million last year, came from the NHS
Nick de Bois, Conservative MP for Enfield North - De Bois is the majority shareholder in Rapier Design Group, an events management company heavily involved with the private medical and pharmaceutical industries, and whose clients include leading names such as AstraZeneca. The company was established by the Tory MP in 1998. Last year it had a turnover of £13m. Last April, Rapier Design purchased Hampton Medical Conferences to “strengthen the company’s position in the medical sector”. It is involved in running conferences and other events for private-sector clients, and for NHS hospitals.
Michael Fallon – Conservative MP for Sevenoaks – Director of Attendo AB since 2008 – a Swedish private health company offering care and social care. The register of interests show, he receives an annual fee of £13,954.88 net, for approximately 20hrs work.
Robert Smith: Liberal Democratic MP for West Aberdeenshire and KIncardine - Has shares in pharmaceutical company GlaxoSmithKline, GSK is the UK's leading supplier of COPD medicines, supplies the NHS. Shares in Legal and general, which offer private health insurance.
All of the above (with the exception of the one or two listed as donors) voted for or had a hand in drafting the current hugely controversial NHS Reform Bill- vested interests? Decide for yourself.
Lord Ashcroft: Conservative benches and funder - Until 2010, held investments in two private healthcare groups.
Lord Ashton - Conservative - Shares in Marsh Inc insurance brokers and in Zurich Financial Services AG - In a review for the Department of Health of the NHS litigation Authority - written by Marsh Inc, it recommended involving opening up clinical negligence cover over to private insurers. Lord Ashton also has shares in a private dental company called Smilepod Hygiene Ltd.
Lord Ballyedmond: Conservative - Chairman of pharmaceutical company Norbrook Laboratories.
Lord Bell: Conservative - Chairman of Chime Communications group, whose companies include Bell Pottinger, and whose lobbying clients include Southern Cross, BT Health and AstraZeneca.
Lord Blackwell: Conservatives - Chairman of Interserve, consultancy to NHS and private healthcare firms. Involved in PFI hospitals. Head of the Prime Minister's policy unit under John Major from 1995 to 1997 and was previously a member of Margaret Thatcher's policy unit. Was a partner with McKinsey and Company (involved in NHS bill)
Lord Blyth of Rowington: Conservative - Senior adviser to investment bankers Greenhill. Former Boots Chemists deputy chairman. Tory Donor.
Lord Boswell - Conservative - Has shares in Reckitt Benckiser which produces drugs for the NHS amongst other health institutions.
Baroness Bottomley of Nettlestone: Conservative - The former Conservative Health Secretary Virginia Bottomley is a Director of BUPA, the health insurance, private hospital and care group.
Lord Brittan - Conservative - Advisor to Teijin who are a conglomerate of global companies. One part of the business is the medical and pharmaceutical business group. Teijin Home Healthcare Limited supply products to the NHS and Teijin Pharma Ltd provides pharmaceuticals to the NHS.
Baroness Byford - Conservative - has shares in Reckitt Benckiser (personal care). which produces drugs for the NHS amongst other health institutions.
Lord Carrington - Conservative - has shares in GlaxoSmithKline pharmaceuticals, suppliers to the NHS. shares in Unilever plc. Unilever has a European venture capital arm Unilever Ventures joined with a company called Vectura to form a pharma arm to their company.
Lord Chadlington: Conservative - Chief executive of Huntsworth communications group with several lobbying firms. Huntsworth Health chaired a meeting on commissioning on behalf of Healthcare Communications Association, a group whose members consist of PR agencies and pharmaceutical companies.
Lord Coe: Conservative - In February 2011 became Director of AMT-Sybex Group, IT supplier to the NHS.
Baroness Cumberlege of Newick: Conservative - Former Tory health minister, runs Cumberlege Connections, a political networking firm that works "extensively" with the pharmaceutical industry. Used to be non-excutive director of PR firm for healthcare huntsworth PLC, of which Lord Chadlington is Chief Executive. Former executive director of healthcare consulting firm MJM healthcare solutions.
Lord Dixon-Smith - Conservative - has shares in Vodaphone group plc - Vodaphone produced a report by themselves, which showed how they can help drive efficiency in healthcare costs promoting the use of SMS texts which go via them and other mobile phone companies. South-Central ambulance service NHS trust have appointed Vodaphone UK as its communications partner.
Baroness Eccles - Conservative - Has shares in GlaxoSmithKline (Healthcare) - GlaxoSmith Kline. GSK is the UK's leading supplier of COPD medicines.
Lord Edmiston - Conservative - Shareholdings in Bupa Finance plc
Lord Feldman of Elstree - Conservative - Shares in BTG pharmaceuticals - BGT are a UK company that manages commercialisation activity in pharmaceuticals. BTG acquired Biocompatiibles in 2010. Biocompatibles supplies medical devices.
Lord Feldman - Conservative - Shares in Inverness Medical, now Alere, a global healthcare company who work with many PCTs including the 'healthcheck programme.'
Lord Fink - Conservative - Director of multiple companies including: The Global PR network Ltd, which covers the health and medical sector, in which he has shares. Chairman and Director of Zenith hygiene Group plc, an approved NHS supplier. Shares run independently by Lombard Odier the company in charge of his share portfolio include: Abbott Laboratories ltd (pharmaceuticals), Allianz SE, which offers medical insurance, Prudential plc, which offers private health insurance, Siemens AG, which supplies medical equipment to the NHS, Vodaphone group.
Lord Forsyth of Drumlean: Conservative - Sits on the board of the Centre for policy studies. Included in his biography interests are 'privatisation' and 'healthcare'. Senior adviser to Evercore, bank involved in huge healthcare deals. Newly appointed Senior Managing Director of Evercore Mr Maisonrouge said: 'Evercore has advised on some of the most noteworthy healthcare transactions.'
Lord Freeman: Conservative - The ex-health minister is chairman of the Advisory Board of PricewaterhouseCoopers, which claims to have “been at the heart of shaping [healthcare] reforms and working with clients to respond to the opportunities they present”. Director of Parity Group plc - Parity group plc won a contract with NHS direct to develop and support a new Health Information Search Portal for £1.4 million.
Lord Garel-Jones: Conservative - MD of UBS bank, whose healthcare division earned the firm over $1billion since 2005.
Lord Glendonbrook - Conservative - Has shares in Ansell Ltd NPV (healthcare), Abbott Laboratories, supplies NHS with Lab equipment, reagents. Shares in Astrazeneca biopharaceuticals - The NHS is the primary customer for Astrazeneca medicines in the UK. Shares in GlaxoSmithKline Ord 25p (healthcare), GlaxoSmithKline (healthcare), Johnson & Johnson, which supplies the NHS. Shares in Novartis who threatened to pull out of the UK becaue the NHS safety trial rules. Shares in Novo Nordisk (pharmaceuticals) supplies NHS, shares in Pfizer Inc (pharmaceuticals) supplies NHS. Shares in Serco group, which has multiple contracts with NHS including PFI hospitals. Shares in Siemens AG, which supplies medical equipment to the NHS. Shares in Smith & Nephew, hip-replacement and bandaging group. Unilver plc, whose European venture capital arm Unilever Ventures joined with a company called Vectura to form a pharma arm to their company.
Lord Griffiths of Fforestfach: Conservative - Director of Goldman Sachs bank, provider of services to healthcare firms.
Lord Hamilton of Epsom - Conservative: Has a directorship with MSB Ltd (managing consultancy), who have NHS, Bupa and CareUK listed as their clients.
Lord Hayhoe - Conservative - shares in Abbott Laboratories ltd (pharmaceuticals, and medical products) supplies NHS.
Baron Higgins of Worthing: Conservative - Holds in excess of £50,000 of shares in Lansdowne UK Equity Fund, backers of private hospital group Circle Holdings.
Baroness Hooper: Conservative - Until July 11, chairman of Advisory Committee of Barclays Infrastructure Funds, one of the most experienced investors in hospital PFI deals.
Lord Howard of Lympne: Conservative - Senior adviser to Hawkpoint Partners, a corporate finance firm. Provide staff to NHS and Private Healthcare providers.
Lord Hunt of Wirral: Conservative - Partner in Beachcroft, a law firm that offers incisive analysis on the full range of government, parliamentary and regulatory matters in the health sector.
Baroness James - Conservative - has shares in AstraZeneca (pharmaceuticals). Shares in Reckitt Benckiser Group plc, which produces drugs for the NHS amongst other health institutions. Serco Group (business services), which has multiple contracts with NHS including PFI hospitals. Smith and Nephew (healthcare) supplies hip replacement and bandaging to the NHS.
Lord Lang of Monkton: Conservative - Director of Marsh & McLennan Companies that "help hospitals, insurers, pharmaceutical companies and industry associations understand the implications of changing policy environments".
Lord Lloyd-Webber - Conservative - Shares in Catlin Group Limited, began writing Healthcare Professional Liability insurance in London in 1994. They offer extensive knowledge of medical, healthcare and pharmaceutical markets. Shares in Smiths Group plc, which produces medical equipment. Shares in AstraZeneca (pharmaceuticals).
Lord Macfarlane: Conservative - Has shares in Prudential plc, which offers private health insurance. Shares in Aviva plc, which offers private health care. Shares in Smith & Nephew (Pharmaceuticals)
Lord Magan of Castletown: Conservative - Director of the SISK Group of healthcare companies. Member of the advisory board on Axa Private equity, which invests heavily in healthcare.
Lord Maple - Shares in Berkshire Hathaway Inc the company run by Warren Buffet - the conglomerate invests heavily in private healthcare companies
Lord Marland - Shares in Tristel Ltd plc - a leading provider of infection control products into the NHS. Shares in Jardine Lloyd Thompson plc - their website states 'the placing and serving of healthcare insurance...is a specialist field in which we excel.'
Lord Moore: Conservative - Shares in Johnson & Johnson, which supplies the NHS. Merck & Co inc (pharmaceuticals, Novartis AG (pharmaceuticals), which supplies the NHS. Shares in BT group, which is one of the largest suppliers of communications to the NHS.
Lord Naseby: Conservative - Was until October 2011 Chairman of and a share-holder in Invesco Perpetual Recovery Trust. Trust voluntarily wound down on October 27th 2011 - One fifth of their investments were in pharmaceutical and biotechnology companies.
Lord Popat - Conservative - Founder of TLC group Ltd who run private care homes. Lord Popat gave David Cameron a donation as a gift for £25,000 a week after the Conservatives' unveiled their health 'reforms'. David Cameron made businessman a peer shortly after getting into ten Downing street.
Lord Ribeiro: Conservative - Adviser on hospital reorganisation to PricewaterhouseCoopers (PWC).
Earl of Selborne: Shares in Prudential, which offers private health insurance.
Lord Sheikh: Chairman and director of Macmillan Sheikh plc - insurance and financial services which offers private health insurance
Lord Sheppard - Has shares in Diageo, a drinks company who have been awarded money to teach midwives in England and Wales on the dangers of alcohol.
Lord Tugendhat - Conservative: Shares in MetLife, which is America's largest life insurance company also operates in the UK
Lord Wakeham: Conservative - Advisor to L.E.K. Consulting, which specialises in helping private healthcare companies identify "growth and new business development" and "opportunities with the government".
Lord Waldegrave - Tory Adviser, UBS Investment Bank UBS bank, whose healthcare division earned the firm over $1billion since 2005.
Baroness Wheatcroft: Conservative: Business Consultant, DLA Piper (legal services) a global law firm providing lobbying services to “clients in the health and social care sectors”.
Lord Wolfson - Conservative - Shares in Cable & Wireless plc - Cable & Wireless solutions for the Health Sector are 'intended to meet all the communications requirements of the health service
Bishop of Gloucester: Has shares in Standard Chartered Bank plc, which offers private healthcare insurance.
Andrew Lansley - Conservative - John Nash, the chairman of Care UK, gave £21,000 to fund Andrew Lansley’s personal office in November 2009. In a recent interview, a senior director of the firm said that 96 per cent of Care UK’s business, which amounted to more than £400 million last year, came from the NHS
Nick de Bois, Conservative MP for Enfield North - De Bois is the majority shareholder in Rapier Design Group, an events management company heavily involved with the private medical and pharmaceutical industries, and whose clients include leading names such as AstraZeneca. The company was established by the Tory MP in 1998. Last year it had a turnover of £13m. Last April, Rapier Design purchased Hampton Medical Conferences to “strengthen the company’s position in the medical sector”. It is involved in running conferences and other events for private-sector clients, and for NHS hospitals.
Michael Fallon – Conservative MP for Sevenoaks – Director of Attendo AB since 2008 – a Swedish private health company offering care and social care. The register of interests show, he receives an annual fee of £13,954.88 net, for approximately 20hrs work.
Robert Smith: Liberal Democratic MP for West Aberdeenshire and KIncardine - Has shares in pharmaceutical company GlaxoSmithKline, GSK is the UK's leading supplier of COPD medicines, supplies the NHS. Shares in Legal and general, which offer private health insurance.
All of the above (with the exception of the one or two listed as donors) voted for or had a hand in drafting the current hugely controversial NHS Reform Bill- vested interests? Decide for yourself.
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Re: The Bigger, Badder, Even More Serious Thread [2]
by Pettytyrant101 Sun Mar 25, 2012 8:21 pm
As a nice folow on to that list of tories with vested interests Cameron is in the hot water. His Treasurer had to quit today after the Sunday Times filmed him offering their reporters, posing as prospective large donars to the Tory party, access to the PM and Cabinet Policy UNits. Basically offering influence over law for cash.
Cameron has condemend it of cours and ordered a party inquiry- the opposition parties say thats not good enough and there needs to be an independent enquiry and Cameron should publish a list of all donors ho have atteneded these meet the PM sessions- Cameron is denying however donors have access to shaping policy, and in fact is denying the Cabinet Policy Unit refered to even exists.
Same old Tories. Does explain why in the budget the opther day they raided lower and middle class pensioners whilst giving a tax break to the very rich.
Cameron has condemend it of cours and ordered a party inquiry- the opposition parties say thats not good enough and there needs to be an independent enquiry and Cameron should publish a list of all donors ho have atteneded these meet the PM sessions- Cameron is denying however donors have access to shaping policy, and in fact is denying the Cabinet Policy Unit refered to even exists.
Same old Tories. Does explain why in the budget the opther day they raided lower and middle class pensioners whilst giving a tax break to the very rich.
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Re: The Bigger, Badder, Even More Serious Thread [2]
by Pettytyrant101 Mon Mar 26, 2012 11:36 am
In a followup to the above scandal PM Cameron has 'declined to reveal whom he has invited to dinner at his home - after a request made in the wake of the donor row - because such details are "private", Number 10 has said. But the PM promised a "proper inquiry" into donations after the resignation of Tory co-treasurer Peter Cruddas.'- BBC
Labour leader Ed Miliband said the matter could not be "swept under the carpet" and a "proper independent investigation" was needed.
"We need to know what happened. These are so serious, these allegations, because it's about the way that policy is made, we've just had a Budget in which the tax rate has been cut at the top of the income scale.
"We need to know what access was paid for, if access was paid for, and what contributions were made and the interaction between the prime minister, the chancellor and Conservative Party donors."- BBC
Something is rotten in the state of England- sooner we leave them to it the better.
As an addition to all this and following on from the still ongoing comprehensive enquiry into journalism and phone hacking Rupert Murdoch could not resist it seems tweeting this message-
"@rupertmurdoch: Of course there must be a full independent inquiry on both sides. In great detail, and with consequences. Trust must be established."
At least he has a sense of humour!
Today's Sun ran with the editorial lead-
"Millions will wonder if Osborne scrapped the 50p rate after a few cosy lunches with millionaire backers."
Is that revenge I smell brewing in the air?
Labour leader Ed Miliband said the matter could not be "swept under the carpet" and a "proper independent investigation" was needed.
"We need to know what happened. These are so serious, these allegations, because it's about the way that policy is made, we've just had a Budget in which the tax rate has been cut at the top of the income scale.
"We need to know what access was paid for, if access was paid for, and what contributions were made and the interaction between the prime minister, the chancellor and Conservative Party donors."- BBC
Something is rotten in the state of England- sooner we leave them to it the better.
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"@rupertmurdoch: Of course there must be a full independent inquiry on both sides. In great detail, and with consequences. Trust must be established."
At least he has a sense of humour!
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"Millions will wonder if Osborne scrapped the 50p rate after a few cosy lunches with millionaire backers."
Is that revenge I smell brewing in the air?
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The sound of wheels truning, gears changing and backpeddallin gfully underway is resounding around the Tories!
'Mr Cameron's announcement that No 10 would release details of private dinners he had had with donors at No 10 came amid growing political pressure to release the information.
In a short statement ahead of a speech in London, the prime minister said he had three such dinners in his flat with "significant donors" since he became prime minister.'- BBC
'Mr Cameron's announcement that No 10 would release details of private dinners he had had with donors at No 10 came amid growing political pressure to release the information.
In a short statement ahead of a speech in London, the prime minister said he had three such dinners in his flat with "significant donors" since he became prime minister.'- BBC
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Re: The Bigger, Badder, Even More Serious Thread [2]
by Pettytyrant101 Sat Apr 14, 2012 5:43 pm
The North Koreans are gearing up to celebrate 100 years since the new state was founded. As is usual this means lots of parading in vast numbers.
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But what are they all really thinking as they sit there I wonder? Can it really be universal? The same thoughts drilled into each head and repeated ala 1984? Scares the bejessuz out of me that does. What depresses me is George Orwell might be right when he says in 1984 book "the human mind is infinitely mallable".
Its seems to me that their society treats the Party as the West traditionally treated God. And look at what the west has done in the past in the name of that belief in God. Perhaps we should expect no less from N Korea when they act for their Party.
But what are they all really thinking as they sit there I wonder? Can it really be universal? The same thoughts drilled into each head and repeated ala 1984? Scares the bejessuz out of me that does. What depresses me is George Orwell might be right when he says in 1984 book "the human mind is infinitely mallable".
Its seems to me that their society treats the Party as the West traditionally treated God. And look at what the west has done in the past in the name of that belief in God. Perhaps we should expect no less from N Korea when they act for their Party.
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Re: The Bigger, Badder, Even More Serious Thread [2]
by Mrs Figg Sat Apr 14, 2012 6:38 pm
It is scary, I wonder what would have happened if the regime had been founded in the UK instead of NC, would we have towed the party line? or would we have rebelled, is it nature or nurture? is it part of someones cultural character to need such control a kind of nebulous father figure or quasi god. I hope we would have told them to go and stick their brainwashing and laughed at the preposterous little gits, but who knows?
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That photo (without my glasses on) makes those North Korean soldiers look like a deep pile carpet! Which, I guess, most North Koreans are...
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Re: The Bigger, Badder, Even More Serious Thread [2]
by Pettytyrant101 Sun Apr 15, 2012 1:23 pm
I dont think walking over that carpet would be very easy Orwell!
In other unbelievable news there is this from the BBC:
Chancellor George Osborne says he is "shocked" that some of the UK's richest people have organised their finances so that they pay virtually no income tax.
The Daily Telegraph reported that a study by HM Revenue and Customs showed the very rich had reduced their average income tax rate to just 10%.
George Osborne said it was not right that the richest could legally arrange their tax affairs in such a way.
But Labour accused him of "synthetic shock", having cut the top tax rate.
He said he would take "further action" but did not outline any new proposals.'
Probably shouldn't be suprised Osbourne is shocked- he is the first Chancellor we have had in decades with no finanacial backgorund- he did History and Politics at Uni. The fact he seems suprised that the rich dodge paying tax using every scam in the book is possibly true- he appears to know little else about economics ater all.
Still he showed those rich people not to mess with this governement by cutting the top rate of tax-that'll teach 'em! (shame however they have been avoiding paying the tax they were supposed to be anyway) I'm sure reducing the tax burden on the filthy tax avoiding rich will help lots Osbourne- nice one.
In other unbelievable news there is this from the BBC:
Chancellor George Osborne says he is "shocked" that some of the UK's richest people have organised their finances so that they pay virtually no income tax.
The Daily Telegraph reported that a study by HM Revenue and Customs showed the very rich had reduced their average income tax rate to just 10%.
George Osborne said it was not right that the richest could legally arrange their tax affairs in such a way.
But Labour accused him of "synthetic shock", having cut the top tax rate.
He said he would take "further action" but did not outline any new proposals.'
Probably shouldn't be suprised Osbourne is shocked- he is the first Chancellor we have had in decades with no finanacial backgorund- he did History and Politics at Uni. The fact he seems suprised that the rich dodge paying tax using every scam in the book is possibly true- he appears to know little else about economics ater all.
Still he showed those rich people not to mess with this governement by cutting the top rate of tax-that'll teach 'em! (shame however they have been avoiding paying the tax they were supposed to be anyway) I'm sure reducing the tax burden on the filthy tax avoiding rich will help lots Osbourne- nice one.
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Re: The Bigger, Badder, Even More Serious Thread [2]
by Pettytyrant101 Fri Apr 20, 2012 1:12 am
Interesting, if quite involved article on the BBC under the headline: Researchers have succeeded in mimicking the chemistry of life in synthetic versions of DNA and RNA molecules.
The upshot of which is;
"There is nothing 'Goldilocks' about DNA and RNA - there is no overwhelming functional imperative for genetic systems or biology to be based on these two nucleic acids."
So if there is life out there it can be life, have evolution but not have any dna or rna. Looks like we need to broaden our definition of life a bit!
The full article is here
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-17769529
The upshot of which is;
"There is nothing 'Goldilocks' about DNA and RNA - there is no overwhelming functional imperative for genetic systems or biology to be based on these two nucleic acids."
So if there is life out there it can be life, have evolution but not have any dna or rna. Looks like we need to broaden our definition of life a bit!
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Re: The Bigger, Badder, Even More Serious Thread [2]
by Mrs Figg Fri Apr 20, 2012 1:27 am
weird but facinating, I must do some more reading on this, I love this kind of stuff.
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by Orwell Fri Apr 20, 2012 2:19 am
Maybe "God" is a DNA-less being?
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Re: The Bigger, Badder, Even More Serious Thread [2]
by Mrs Figg Fri Apr 20, 2012 6:18 pm
maybe God is Dark Matter or Dark Energy, the mysterious space between the molecules?
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