Waiting for 'The Battle of the Five Armies' [2]

Pettytyrant101 wrote:Ive helped her out by reading between the lines-

'This team of writers - Peter, Fran [Walsh] and Philippa [Boyens] - are the most ill-prepared, taciturn, desperate for help team of writers I've ever encountered in ten years in the business. From the very beginning, when we first cast Saoirse as a teenage Elf and then we shoehorned in Leggy romance at the last minute cos the missis said it would be kewl, they said, 'We've no idea what this character's going to be, and all we know is that she is an elf and female because we're waiting to see who we cast, in case it was a man And hopefully that person will help us come up with a character, and maybe a plot for her, oh, and all her words, because we really haven't got a clue, Fran just thought saying 'feminine energy' a lot in the marketing campaign would make us more money,'" she explained to (Not) Total Film magazine.

Sinister71 wrote:
THAT is about the only way he was right.... But I found it funny when I posted on TORn how many of the sheep people believed there was that much material in the appendices without question. Or at least reading it for themselves to see how little material there really is in the appendices that relates to the Hobbit or ANY of the characters in it. I mean I printed it out and showed them, with facts that there was less than 12 pages of material related and they still argued about it. (we need a sheep emoticon just cause their cute, nothing else   )

malickfan wrote:

Sinister71 wrote:
THAT is about the only way he was right.... But I found it funny when I posted on TORn how many of the sheep people believed there was that much material in the appendices without question. Or at least reading it for themselves to see how little material there really is in the appendices that relates to the Hobbit or ANY of the characters in it. I mean I printed it out and showed them, with facts that there was less than 12 pages of material related and they still argued about it. (we need a sheep emoticon just cause their cute, nothing else   )

To be blunt, I don't think alot of them care that much, I was never excited about the appendices material, because for me, it was merely a sideshow to the central story of The Hobbit and rather too vague to get excited about, but for a Tolkien fan site a surprisingly large number of people who post there got very very excited about Jackson 'extending' The Hobbit and filling in the gaps- almost as if it were a crappy kids prequel that had to be fixed, most of said gaps largely exist in one's own imagination, I mean until you see it action how is the one paragraph assault on Dol Guldor thrilling? Having watched Jackson's increasingly overblown King Kong and Lovely Bones I was not willing to give him the benefit of the doubt when it came to 'expanding' existing stories...

12 pages...but what about the Hobbit geneologies, and lists of Shire Names? All could be thrilling scenes in the film....

Sarcasm aside, we have discussed this many times before...yet it still seems to be more interesting that the actual films for many of us...

malickfan wrote:

Anyone remember that Tinkerbell comment by Lilly?

bungobaggins wrote:

malickfan wrote:

Anyone remember that Tinkerbell comment by Lilly?

No, what was it?

AFTER she finished on mind-bending telly series Lost, in 2009, Evangeline Lilly thought she had retired from acting.

She and boyfriend Norman Kali had their first child, son Kahekili, in May 2011 and the 34-year-old Canadian beauty was settled into family life until she was offered the part of new elf character Tauriel in The Hobbit: The Desolation of Smaug, which is released today.

Evangeline – whose son (his name is Hawaiian for “the thunder”) was only three months old when they travelled from Hawaii, where she lives, to New Zealand to start filming – said: “When they called me, I thought I had retired, I thought I was done with acting.

“I was like, ‘I am a mom now, this is my life now and this is what I am going to do’. I was happy and content.

“I don’t know if there is any other role in all of the world that could have got me to go to start working, doing stunts, in another country, for a year.

“But it was a Woodland Elf in The Hobbit and there was just no way I could say no.”

Evangeline joined the crew, which included Martin Freeman as Bilbo, Sir Ian McKellen as Gandalf and the returning Orlando Bloom as Legolas.

There is also a strong Scots contingent, including teenager John Bell, who plays Bain, and two of the 13 dwarves – Ken Stott as Balin and Graham McTavish as Dwalin. Former Doctor Who Sylvester McCoy plays wizard Radagast the Brown.

Evangeline said: “I came out to New Zealand and started work when my son was only three months old.”

“So I was in the throes of nursing and trying to recover from my 30 hour labour, and I was focused inwardly.

“I was in that nesting time.”

The shoot has inspired the ex-model, whose breakthrough was as the lead character Kate Austen in JJ Abrams’ Lost, from 2004, to carry on acting.

She said: “The Hobbit was so positive. I had so much fun and all of my experiences surrounding it have been a really different experience for me than it was on Lost.

“For the first time in 10 years, I actually think I like acting.

“This might be fun and I actually might want to do more. If it wasn’t for them pulling me out of bed and saying you are coming and working with us, I might have retired at that point, I may have never done a film again.”

Evangeline took to playing the 600-year-old ruthless and rebellious elf with gusto. She wanted to do the wirework stunts herself but wasn’t allowed and employed a language coach so she could learn Elvish.

But then it was no wonder. Evangeline was a massive fan of The Hobbit, claiming it was her favourite book, even though she didn’t finish reading The Lord of the Rings, putting it down with 50 pages left.

She laughed: “I refused to finish the book, ’cause then it would just live on in my mind forever. And then, later on, my sister ended up reading it and she told me, ‘It’s such a good thing you stopped reading because the end is devastating’.”

She admits that because she was such a big fan of the books she didn’t want to watch the Lord of the Rings movies, which starred former boyfriend Dominic Monaghan, who played hobbit Merry. They met when they both starred in Lost after he’d finished making the epic trilogy.

Trauriel is a commoner, which means she isn't blonde like other elvesTrauriel is a commoner, which means she isn't blonde like other elves
She said: “I refused to see the first one when it came out. I was ‘No way, nobody will do those books justice. Nobody’. I wanted to protect the images that I had in my mind.

“I ended up going because my family went as a Christmas outing and I would have been the only person who wouldn’t have gone.

“I was so amazed that everything I saw was what I had envisioned.

“So once that happened, Peter earned the title of the ambassador of Tolkien’s work for meNot for me. Therefore, when I was asked to play an elf in The Hobbit, I was like, ‘Oh my God’, because the Woodland Elves were my favourite charactersIsn't it a bit of a stretch to call generic nameless background figures characters. I dreamed when I was a little girl of being a woodland elf.”

Fans of the Hobbit will know that Tauriel doesn’t appear. The character was created to be head of the Elven guard by director Peter Jackson and his producing partner and wife Fran Walsh – to flesh out the elves of Mirkwood Forest and to add another female character to the story, which is dominated by males.

While she was in make-up, putting on her red wig to start shooting the film, Evangeline re-read The Hobbit.

She said: “I was shocked at how simple it is Just saying, if it were your favourite book you'd probably have noticed that earlier.... As a kid, it seemed like a really complex, interesting, difficult story to read.

“I went back and I was like oh it’s a kid’s book, a real – forgive me Tolkien, may you rest in peace – kind of boring for adults storyI read it AFTER LOTR and Enjoyed it more....

“And it doesn’t have a lot of twists and turns in the plot and there’s very little character development Would those things be necessary if you were adapting the book? Oh right...they weren't...and it made me realise why Peter had made the decisions he madeto make more money and 'finish Tolkien's rewrite'..., about characters and expanding storylines and basically complicating the story.

“It would have never survived in the adult film world if it was left the way it was in the book.”

Evangeline based her new character a little bit on Tinker Bell – the fairy from Peter Pan. She said: “When I think about Tinker Bell, she is this delicate, beautiful, sensual, little nymphette but she’s also powerful and scary and you wouldn’t want to get on the wrong side of Tink.

“She’s a strong little feisty thing.

“I am a huge fan of the Lady Cottington’s book of Pressed Fairies and those are nasty little things. That book is a bit naughty.”

The actress sees Tauriel as representing the Woodland Elves, who JRR Tolkien talks about in the 1937 The Hobbit book but doesn’t highlight one character. You would think with a completely new character, the actress would have free rein rather than the famous characters of the book such as Bilbo or Gandalf.

She said: “I think that I had the tightest leash out of anybody with them, because they knew exactly what they were after and I completely relied on them.

“Because I couldn’t go to the book and take my own interpretation, I had to listen to what their interpretation wasThat can't have been fun....

“But it also gave me incredible freedom because you don’t have in your mind how Tauriel should look, or act, sound or behave.”

Tauriel is very different to the Lord of the Rings elves. She’s a commoner, which means she’s shorter and doesn’t have the blonde hair and blue eyes but red locks and green eyes.

While Legolas and the other elves in the Lord of the Rings helped men to defeat Sauron and his army, Tauriel and the Woodland Elves in the new film are out for themselves and defending their realm against orcs from the Dol Guldur area.

She said: “I do a lot of killing, Tauriel kills a lot and it was great fun slaughtering orcs.”

malickfan wrote:

bungobaggins wrote:

malickfan wrote:

Anyone remember that Tinkerbell comment by Lilly?

No, what was it?

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/entertainment/celebrity-interviews/lost-star-evangeline-lilly-tells-2921654

AFTER she finished on mind-bending telly series Lost, in 2009, Evangeline Lilly thought she had retired from acting. yeah ? well think on, there's still time !

She and boyfriend Norman Kali had their first child, son Kahekili, in May 2011 and the 34-year-old Canadian beauty was settled into family life until she was offered the part of new elf character Tauriel in The Hobbit: The Desolation of Smaug, which is released today.

Evangeline – whose son (his name is Hawaiian for “the thunder”) was only three months old when they travelled from Hawaii, where she lives, to New Zealand to start filming – said: “When they called me, I thought I had retired, I thought I was done with acting.

“I was like, ‘I am a mom now, this is my life now and this is what I am going to do’. I was happy and content.

“I don’t know if there is any other role in all of the world that could have got me to go to start working, doing stunts, in another country, for a year.

“But it was a Woodland Elf in The Hobbit and there was just no way I could say no.”( plus i get to flirt & screw around with a hot dwarf !)

Evangeline joined the crew, which included Martin Freeman as Bilbo, Sir Ian McKellen as Gandalf and the returning Orlando Bloom as Legolas.

There is also a strong Scots contingent, including teenager John Bell, who plays Bain, and two of the 13 dwarves – Ken Stott as Balin and Graham McTavish as Dwalin. Former Doctor Who Sylvester McCoy plays wizard Radagast the Brown.

Evangeline said: “I came out to New Zealand and started work when my son was only three months old.”

“So I was in the throes of nursing and trying to recover from my 30 hour labour, and I was focused inwardly.

“I was in that nesting time.”

The shoot has inspired the ex-model, whose breakthrough was as the lead character Kate Austen in JJ Abrams’ Lost, from 2004, to carry on acting.

She said: “The Hobbit was so positive. I had so much fun and all of my experiences surrounding it have been a really different experience for me than it was on Lost. (Even tho they should call this "Lost 2" as no one knows what the heck is going on )

“For the first time in 10 years, I actually think I like acting.( not that I get to do much of it, until I get to meet that cute little dwarf & that aint acting oh no! )

“This might be fun and I actually might want to do more. If it wasn’t for them pulling me out of bed and saying you are coming and working with us, I might have retired at that point, I may have never done a film again.” ( especially as I had to leave that cute Dwarf in the bed they just yanked me out off )

Evangeline took to playing the 600-year-old ruthless and rebellious elf with gusto. She wanted to do the wirework stunts herself but wasn’t allowed and employed a language coach so she could learn Elvish.

But then it was no wonder. Evangeline was a massive fan of The Hobbit, claiming it was her favourite book, even though ( she was actually mixing it up with LOTRs )  she didn’t finish reading The Lord of the Rings, putting it down with 50 pages left.

She laughed: “I refused to finish the book,( mainly cuz I dont read so good) ’cause then it would just live on in my mind forever. And then, later on, my sister ended up reading it and she told me, ‘It’s such a good thing you stopped reading because the end is devastating’.”

She admits that because she was such a big fan of the books she didn’t want to watch the Lord of the Rings movies, which starred former boyfriend Dominic Monaghan, who played hobbit Merry. They met when they both starred in Lost after he’d finished making the epic trilogy.( sighting she had a thing for small guys, VERY small guys )

Trauriel is a commoner, which means she isn't blonde like other elvesTrauriel is a commoner, which means she isn't blonde like other elves  
She said: “I refused to see the first one when it came out. I was ‘No way, nobody will do those books justice. Nobody’. I wanted to protect the images that I had in my mind.

“I ended up going because my family went as a Christmas outing and I would have been the only person who wouldn’t have gone.( I went to see santas Elves instead, did I tell you I like small guys ? )

“I was so amazed that everything I saw was what I had envisioned.

“So once that happened, Peter earned the title of the ambassador of Tolkien’s work for meNot for me. Therefore, when I was asked to play an elf in The Hobbit, I was like, ‘Oh my God’, because the Woodland Elves were my favourite charactersIsn't it a bit of a stretch to call generic nameless background figures characters. I dreamed when I was a little girl of being a woodland elf.” ( just in case i got to meet a hot little Dwarf !)

Fans of the Hobbit will know that Tauriel doesn’t appear. The character was created to be head of the Elven guard by director Peter Jackson and his producing partner and wife Fran Walsh – to flesh out the elves of Mirkwood Forest and to add another female character to the story, which is dominated by males.

While she was in make-up, putting on her red wig to start shooting the film, Evangeline re-read The Hobbit.

She said: “I was shocked at how simple it is Just saying, if it were your favourite book you'd probably have noticed that earlier.... As a kid, it seemed like a really complex, interesting, difficult story to read.( there were no pictures ! )

“I went back and I was like oh it’s a kid’s book, a real – forgive me Tolkien, may you rest in peace – kind of boring for adults storyI read it AFTER LOTR and Enjoyed it more....

“And it doesn’t have a lot of twists and turns in the plot and there’s very little character development Would those things be necessary if you were adapting the book? Oh right...they weren't...and it made me realise why Peter had made the decisions he madeto make more money and 'finish Tolkien's rewrite'..., about characters and expanding storylines and basically complicating the story.

“It would have never survived in the adult film world if it was left the way it was in the book.” ( we need a little soft Dwarf/Elf action to spice it up )

Evangeline based her new character a little bit on Tinker Bell – the fairy from Peter Pan. She said: “When I think about Tinker Bell, she is this delicate, beautiful, sensual, little nymphette but she’s also powerful and scary     and you wouldn’t want to get on the wrong side of Tink.( no, but she sure likes to shake her butt !)

“She’s a strong little feisty thing.

“I am a huge fan of the Lady Cottington’s book of Pressed Fairies and those are nasty little things.( make the pages all gooey ! )  That book is a bit naughty.”

The actress sees Tauriel as representing the Woodland Elves, who JRR Tolkien talks about in the 1937 The Hobbit book but doesn’t highlight one character. You would think with a completely new character, the actress would have free rein rather than the famous characters of the book such as Bilbo or Gandalf.
( she was free & easy with a hot little Dwarf ?)
She said: “I think that I had the tightest leash out of anybody with them, because they knew exactly what they were after and I completely relied on them.( said Miss Whiplash of the evergreen folk )

“Because I couldn’t go to the book and take my own interpretation, I had to listen to what their interpretation wasThat can't have been fun....

“But it also gave me incredible freedom because you don’t have in your mind how Tauriel should look, or act, sound or behave.” ( so watch out Dwarves here I come ! )

Tauriel is very different to the Lord of the Rings elves. She’s a commoner, which means she’s shorter and doesn’t have the blonde hair and blue eyes but red locks and green eyes.

While Legolas and the other elves in the Lord of the Rings helped men to defeat Sauron and his army, Tauriel and the Woodland Elves in the new film are out for themselves and defending their realm against orcs from the Dol Guldur area.

She said: “I do a lot of killing, Tauriel kills a lot and it was great fun slaughtering orcs.”

bungobaggins wrote:http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=125151

Billy Boyd's "The Last Goodbye" is back up online. Give it a listen.

Eldorion wrote:A gay porn parody of The Hobbit would probably find a way to tell its "story" without feeling a lack of "feminine energy".  Just saying.

Eldorion wrote:A gay porn parody of The Hobbit would probably find a way to tell its "story" without feeling a lack of "feminine energy".  Just saying.