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Re: Doctor Who [9]
by Bluebottle Mon Nov 03, 2014 8:45 pm
True, and I do like the Master as a character.
But I do have to admit to thinking, "Oh, another cyberman invation of earth.
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Just wonder if they couldn't have taken it in a more interesting direction.
But I do have to admit to thinking, "Oh, another cyberman invation of earth.
"Just wonder if they couldn't have taken it in a more interesting direction.
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Re: Doctor Who [9]
by Pettytyrant101 Mon Nov 03, 2014 8:51 pm
Well it hasnt happened since the RTD years.
Moffat has used them quite sparigly- they arent in series 5 at all except for the lone sentry at the Pandorica. They are only in 2 in series 7 one a cameo in the opening of GMGTW and in Closing Time they arent invading just trying to repair.
Their first proper episode under Moffat wasnt until series 7 Nightmare in Silver and its set on another world entirely.
Anyone catch the St Pauls steps with cyberman stomping down it reference from 2nd Doctor cyberman story The Invasion?
Moffat has used them quite sparigly- they arent in series 5 at all except for the lone sentry at the Pandorica. They are only in 2 in series 7 one a cameo in the opening of GMGTW and in Closing Time they arent invading just trying to repair.
Their first proper episode under Moffat wasnt until series 7 Nightmare in Silver and its set on another world entirely.
Anyone catch the St Pauls steps with cyberman stomping down it reference from 2nd Doctor cyberman story The Invasion?
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Re: Doctor Who [9]
by azriel Mon Nov 03, 2014 9:06 pm
I remember that.
The clank clank sound of their steps is pretty "gas inducing"
gives me the shudders, 
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Re: Doctor Who [9]
by Orwell Tue Nov 04, 2014 11:10 am
Bring on next week's episode is all I'm saying! 
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Re: Doctor Who [9]
by Mrs Figg Tue Nov 04, 2014 8:30 pm
well that Dark Water episode was completely underwhelming and frankly in very bad taste. i dont know whether I was more bored or more irritated or more, how the very fucking dare he write such shite.
(((((didnt like it, can you tell?
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Re: Doctor Who [9]
by malickfan Tue Nov 04, 2014 8:42 pm
Mrs Figg wrote:well that Dark Water episode was completely underwhelming and frankly in very bad tasteHow?. i dont know whether I was more bored or more irritated or more, how the very fucking dare he write such shite.
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(((((didnt like it, can you tell?
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I liked (not loved) it, Danny Pink got killed how can that not be great?
I would have preffered it if it were the Rani or a new character,
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- I'm not too keen on the idea of transgender regeneration myself (esp for the Doctor) but the Master got kinda boring after a while, and Michelle Gomez is a very good actress (she can't be any worse then Jon 'Batshit Crazy' Simm's version...) it may end being a badly written gimmick (I know you...aren't keen on Moffat's writing for Women...), subject to the BBC's PC friendly culture (I wouldn't be surprised if this were a test for a female doctor down the line), but it could be an interesting twist on a rather tired character, if not, well it might shut up some of the crazy Tumblr crowd...
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Re: Doctor Who [9]
by malickfan Tue Nov 04, 2014 8:43 pm
Pettytyrant101 wrote:
Was that from The Invasion? Great Episode(s).
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Re: Doctor Who [9]
by Mrs Figg Tue Nov 04, 2014 8:51 pm
malickfan wrote:Mrs Figg wrote:well that Dark Water episode was completely underwhelming and frankly in very bad tasteHow?. i dont know whether I was more bored or more irritated or more, how the very fucking dare he write such shite.
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(((((didnt like it, can you tell?
I liked (not loved) it, Danny Pink got killed how can that not be great?
I would have preffered it if it were the Rani or a new character,
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- I liked batshit crazy Simms, but Missy being the Master was a bit of a disappointment I thought it was going to be something more intriguing, I like the actress, dont mind the sex swap thing, just thought it was too obvious. Poor Danny Pink, i thought he was going to turn out to be more interesting too, but this episode has turned him from courageous ex-soldier/astronaut chappie with the possibility he will be a cool character, to little more than Doe-eyed victim.
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by Pettytyrant101 Tue Nov 04, 2014 8:57 pm
Yeah Invasion. There is also a cheeky comment to a 4th Doctor story whose name escapes me at the moment, but it opens with a scrolling text and the Doctor narrating it the same text- just like the display for 3W and the Doctor says "Why have the scrolling and the voice?"
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- I am surprised at your objection to a female Master. Under Moffat he wrote into canon by putting in an episode for the first time conformation a Time Lord can regenerate into a different sex- the Corsair- that it was possible. Laying the groundwork for a potential female Doctor at some point.
Now Moffat has shown that onscreen, and with a long standing character (going back to the 3rd Doctor for his/her first appearance) to give the audience a chance to get used to and accept the idea.
He has done more than any other show runner in 50 years to lay the ground for a future female Doctor. And still he is attacked for it. It baffles me.
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Re: Doctor Who [9]
by Pettytyrant101 Tue Nov 04, 2014 8:59 pm
Fecking spoilers people!!!!!!!! Use them!!!!
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Re: Doctor Who [9]
by malickfan Tue Nov 04, 2014 9:00 pm
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, but Missy being the Master was a bit of a disappointment I thought it was going to be something more intriguingwell, I hoped Missy would be something else, but The Master has a bigger shock value and fanbase than any other villain, and it was kinda obvious, it does kinda remind me of the Master pulling the strings in the old series all the time, I like the actress, dont mind the sex swap thing, just thought it was too obviousyeah, but Moffat often introduces new characters really half arsed, at least this time there is some background he can work from. Poor Danny Pink, i thought he was going to turn out to be more interesting tooSo much for my theory about him being related to the soldiers in the Dalek ep..., but this episode has turned him from courageous ex-soldier/astronaut chappie with the possibility he will be a cool character, to little more than Doe-eyed victimhe's basically a sacricial sheep to give Clara someone new to cry about, but he's rather bland and they didn't use the soldier angle as well as they could of, Samuel Anderson isn't a very good actor imo either....
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Re: Doctor Who [9]
by malickfan Tue Nov 04, 2014 9:01 pm
Pettytyrant101 wrote:Fecking spoilers people!!!!!!!! Use them!!!!
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Re: Doctor Who [9]
by Pettytyrant101 Tue Nov 04, 2014 9:04 pm
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- I think the point of Danny was to take someone with a lot of emotion bottled up because thats exactly what cybermen take from you. That way the offer he is made at the end is genuinely tempting. Just delete all those emotions, all the guilt, or the loss, all the love too, no more pain, ever inside or out once your in your flesh of steel.
Danny has to see himself as a victim at this point, of his own emotional state which he can now purge at the press of a button.
But I think we have yet to see the best of Danny, there is an hour worth of finale to come yet.
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by Pettytyrant101 Tue Nov 04, 2014 9:07 pm
U, knew Id forgotten something...nice to see you back Figg.
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Re: Doctor Who [9]
by Mrs Figg Tue Nov 04, 2014 9:07 pm
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- agreed, they have really dropped the ball with Danny, I thought he was connected to the soldiers too, I thought he might be Blue's Brother (not a Blues Brother)
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by malickfan Tue Nov 04, 2014 9:12 pm
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Danny has to see himself as a victim at this point, of his own emotional state which he can now purge at the press of a button.
But I think we have yet to see the best of Danny, there is an hour worth of finale to come yet.
Good Point, I just think they could have made more of him, given 12's self loathing/antagonism towards soldiers, I just don't really care what happens to him to be honest.
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- I'm still unsure how to feel about a female Master, I don't necessarily object to a woman playing the part, it's just hard to see how they can treat it as a natural extension of the same character Delgrado played without thinking 'Oh it's a woman now, maybe we should make a big point about how inclusive we are being'-I've already seen complaints the first thing Missy does it have a flirty kiss with the Doctor...it's kind of hard to get you head round when many writers of the series look at them as brothers/close relatives
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Pettytyrant101 wrote:U, knew Id forgotten something...nice to see you back Figg.
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by Pettytyrant101 Tue Nov 04, 2014 10:01 pm
I just think they could have made more of him, given 12's self loathing/antagonism towards soldiers- Malick
I think that may be yet to come into into it in the next episode.
I think that may be yet to come into into it in the next episode.
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by Orwell Tue Nov 04, 2014 11:13 pm
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- I personally like the idea of a Mistress.
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by azriel Wed Nov 05, 2014 12:21 am
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- I dont like the obvious either but, I feel there's gonna be a twist in the tail looming up ? ( well I feckingwell hope so ) Also, that kiss, that to me said, " Ive got the better of you !" a kiss of triumph ?
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Re: Doctor Who [9]
by Orwell Wed Nov 05, 2014 12:23 am
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- Methinks either of you could be the Mistress.
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by Mrs Figg Wed Nov 05, 2014 9:56 am
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- I couldnt believe how bad taste it was, I mean, cremated people feeling pain?!, its quite disgusting, insulting to the people we have lost and Moffat has a duty of care to his viewers kids as well as adults, I thought he stepped over the line big time. Using the Death of Danny in a car accident! also pretty crass.
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