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Post by Bluebottle Tue Apr 08, 2014 5:58 pm

I really liked the "hit me with your lovliest hand and get over it" part.

It's a perfect parody of Johns reaction to Sherlock returning in the series.  Razz 

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Post by Amarië Tue Apr 08, 2014 7:21 pm

That is art. Love love it!

Continuity, my dear Watson!

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Post by Bluebottle Tue Apr 15, 2014 10:40 pm

I had forgotten they actually did this in the series too.  Razz 

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Post by Bluebottle Tue Apr 15, 2014 10:41 pm

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Post by Norc Mon Apr 28, 2014 4:02 pm

A few times I’ve cried while writing something. And that sequence there [Sherlock’s best man speech], I was blubbing (sic). The sad stuff doesn’t make me cry when I write it, because I know I’m being manipulative. But a simple declaration of devotion in the manner of the man who simply decided, “That is what you do.” He’s read it in a book: “You state how you feel about your friend.” Right. Will do that. And he does it with forensic perfection. So it kills you when it happens. It’s tremendously powerful. And it’s very key to the character of Sherlock Holmes because he has no shame in admitting that he can feel that way. When he likes people, he’s perfectly happy to like them. It’s just that he doesn’t like very many.


Steven Moffat interview on ‘Babel’
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Post by Norc Sun May 04, 2014 12:17 am

The really important bit is that we get on onscreen because people arent paying their license fees to know that me and Ben are going on holiday together.” - Martin Freeman
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Post by Norc Sun May 04, 2014 5:00 pm


first 17 seconds can be skipped.
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Post by Eldorion Sun May 04, 2014 6:31 pm

^ There is a "me" though. Very Happy

{{{I didn't actually watch the video so I have no idea if this is relevant.}}}
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Post by Norc Sun May 04, 2014 6:45 pm

watch the goddamn video!
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Post by Eldorion Sun May 04, 2014 6:47 pm

Okay, that was really good. Laughing
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Post by Norc Sun May 04, 2014 7:07 pm

Laughing i know Very Happy
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Post by Bluebottle Sun May 04, 2014 9:02 pm

Laughing 

This is my normal reaction to seeing Benedict in something. Razz 

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Post by Norc Sun May 04, 2014 9:47 pm

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Post by Eldorion Mon May 12, 2014 7:19 pm

I noticed the other day that "A Scandal in Pink" had recently-ish been recorded by our DVR, so I watched it on a whim (even though it's 90 minutes) and it still holds up really well. I've never been totally sold on the serial killer's big secret, though. I've personally assumed since the first time I saw the episode that he was pulling a Vizzini (from The Princess Bride) and both pills were poison. I have no idea if that's what Moffat intended or not.

But yeah, it was a lot of fun to revisit one of my favorite episodes of the show. Makes me remember why the show is/was one of my all-time favorites. Shame about series three though.
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Post by Norc Mon May 12, 2014 9:03 pm

it's " a study in pink" and "a scandal in belgravia" i was bit confused there....
but yeah, true, it does hold up and i love that they made the choice to confrot holmes with the choice too (unlike in the books).
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Post by Eldorion Mon May 12, 2014 9:57 pm

Haha, thanks for correcting me on that, Norc.  I blame lack of sleep (and too much stress). Sleep
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Post by Bluebottle Mon May 12, 2014 10:33 pm

It's quite a neat concept, like most of Moffats ideas.

With the

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Not sure it always holds up to scrutiny, but that certainly shocked me the first time round.  Razz 

Actually. You might have inspired me to give one of those early Sherlock episodes a go, Eldo.  Smile

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Post by Norc Tue May 20, 2014 12:59 pm

http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2014-05-20/sherlock-makes-the-dictionary-in-new-definition-of-ship

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Post by Norc Thu May 22, 2014 9:45 am

if anyone wants to start up the discussion again whether or not Sherlock is  a sosiopath/psychopath, then take a google search on James Fallon. He's a scientist and did brain research on altzheimers and psychopath and by "accident" he realised he had the brain of a psyco, just like the most brutal and insane criminals. he is on the border of being dangerous.  he says that he has no limits and that he struggles with empathy, though he can function in a normal life, he has a wife and kids. it's very interesting Smile
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Post by Eldorion Thu May 22, 2014 5:00 pm

If you can have a "psychopath brain" and never realize it until you look at a brain scan of yourself, then I think that's a fairly convincing piece of evidence in the "nurture" side of the nature vs. nurture debate.  I'm highly skeptical of genetic determinism in general, though. Obviously your physical brain has an effect on your psychology (Phineas Gage being the most famous example of that), but the idea that you can construct a portrait of someone and/or determine their likelihood to commit crimes just by looking at their brain reeks of bullshit.
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Post by Norc Thu May 22, 2014 5:15 pm

no, there is something in it. let me explain more thoroughly.. he scanned the brains of the people who had done the worst crimes you can imagine, mass murderers, wife and kid murderers, paedophiles and torturers and basically maniacs and compared them to brain scans of "normal" people meaning people who had never done any crime at all. he found that the psychopaths (many of them having this title from a medical standpoint) had lower activity in certain areas in their brains, where empathy and sympathy lies. he then found his brain looked a lot like the ones of the criminals. now, he is on the border of being dangerous. he didn't know until his wife pointed it out that he liked to manipulate people, not to gain anything but their focus and such, like he would enjoy just having the power over them. he also tells he has problems feeling empathy, he udnerstands what people need in given situations, but he has trouble feeling with them and yeah, seeing it. he also likes taking risks, he would take his kids waterskiing but instead of doing it near the shore, he took them out where there are sharks, because it gave him a kick, he didn't understand the danger and what the kids might feel.. he even admits that perhaps if he had grown up needing stuff, money or whatever, he might have turned out quite differently.
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Post by Norc Thu May 22, 2014 5:15 pm

i suggest u google him or something, eldo, it is actually very interesting.
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Post by Eldorion Thu May 22, 2014 5:21 pm

I've read about his research before and I'm still not convinced. We have a limited understanding of lots of brain related stuff anyway, so "lower activity" in certain areas could mean a lot of things. Interestingly, Fallon himself says that this research has shaken his belief in the importance of genetics on personality.

http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2014/01/life-as-a-nonviolent-psychopath/282271/

Also, from a moral, cultural, or legal perspective, I think it's incredibly dangerous to perpetuate (even unintentionally) the notion that people can be "born" as criminals or that some people are "beyond saving" and thus rehabilitation is worthless. These ideas are common enough as they are and are part of the reason why the American criminal justice system is as thoroughly fucked as it is. I can't speak to other countries' systems, but Fallon is an American so I feel it's a relevant point to bring up.
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