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Post by Ringdrotten Thu Jun 12, 2014 5:41 pm

Brother to a Targaryen king - Maester Aemon Smile No idea of how fire proof he is, though Laughing

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Post by Lancebloke Thu Jun 12, 2014 6:15 pm

Figgy can't help herself. You should go on wiki and read up on everything!

Just finished the books so I am game for any discussions now! At least until the next book comes out!
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Post by Eldorion Thu Jun 12, 2014 9:29 pm

halfwise wrote:Yep, I'll raise it again.  I thought this thread was where everything was open, no spoilers.  And the other thread has no spoilers because you're not supposed to talk about book knowledge.  But even Eldo is using spoilers here....

I generally use spoilers when responding to someone else who posted in spoilers, and sometimes I'll throw stuff in spoilers just in case.  But it's not required in this thread, no.

With the other thread, people use spoilers for the most recent episode since not everyone is able to watch the episode all at the same time, especially people in countries other than the US where the show has a slightly different schedule. Again, not necessarily required, but I think it's the polite thing to do.
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Post by Mrs Figg Thu Jun 12, 2014 10:22 pm

Lancebloke wrote:Figgy can't help herself. You should go on wiki and read up on everything!

I did. Now I know everything.  Shocked 
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Post by Mrs Figg Fri Jun 13, 2014 1:25 pm

halfwise wrote:Yep, I'll raise it again.  I thought this thread was where everything was open, no spoilers.  And the other thread has no spoilers because you're not supposed to talk about book knowledge.  But even Eldo is using spoilers here....

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Post by Bluebottle Fri Jun 13, 2014 4:51 pm

 Laughing  

And there's another "dead" character, I guess.

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Post by Bluebottle Fri Jun 13, 2014 4:52 pm

Lancebloke wrote:Just finished the books so I am game for any discussions now! At least until the next book comes out!

What did you think of the epilogue? That was easily one of my favorite parts of the last book.

As for the Jon thing, the book does pretty much leave the conclusion open. And many of the several ways forward have already been mentioned. Though it's good to remember we've been here before. Arya getting an axe to the back of the head (that's at the Red Wedding in the books, in case any non-book readers panicks.Razz ), Tyrion drowning, Davos drowning at the Blackwater, Davos at White Harbor...

So I would say the conclusion is pretty open.  Shrugging 

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Post by Lancebloke Fri Jun 13, 2014 8:26 pm

The epilogue was good. I was waiting for Varys to reappear. The Lannisters are on the ropes now!!
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Post by Mrs Figg Fri Jun 13, 2014 8:48 pm

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Lancebloke wrote:Just finished the books so I am game for any discussions now! At least until the next book comes out!

What did you think of the epilogue? That was easily one of my favorite parts of the last book.

As for the Jon thing, the book does pretty much leave the conclusion open. And many of the several ways forward have already been mentioned. Though it's good to remember we've been here before. Arya getting an axe to the back of the head (that's at the Red Wedding in the books, in case any non-book readers panicks.Razz ), Tyrion drowning, Davos drowning at the Blackwater, Davos at White Harbor...

So I would say the conclusion is pretty open.  Shrugging 

you kidding? are they really both deaded in the books?  affraid No Shocked Sad Mad Banghead 
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Post by Lancebloke Fri Jun 13, 2014 9:25 pm

Who both?
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Post by Mrs Figg Fri Jun 13, 2014 10:24 pm

who do you think?

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Post by Lancebloke Sat Jun 14, 2014 8:25 am

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Post by Mrs Figg Sat Jun 14, 2014 1:56 pm

Arya and Tyrion
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Post by Lancebloke Sat Jun 14, 2014 3:15 pm

No... that was an example of people seeming dead but not being. Arya at the Twins, Tyrion several times (e.g. blackwater)
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Post by Mrs Figg Sat Jun 14, 2014 4:45 pm

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Post by Ringdrotten Sat Jun 14, 2014 4:52 pm

The epilogue was great! It looks like things will begin to happen again in book six. Not that nothing happened in books 4 & 5, but the pace was definitely slowed down. I think ADWD really picked up in the end, though, and unlike A Feast for Crows it didn't have borderline boring chapters. Loved Victarion's final chapters, and Selmy's. So many questions, though! Did Jon die? Has Stannis really lost? What's going to happen to Dany? Tyrion? Cersei? Where did Jaime and Brienne go? And so long to wait!  bounce

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Post by Forest Shepherd Sun Jun 15, 2014 7:50 am

I really am curious as to whether Jaime will lose more body-parts!
Assuming, of course, that Brienne has played him false somehow, leading to a second (third?) capture.

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Post by Lancebloke Sun Jun 15, 2014 8:50 am

I think Brienne may now be a reanimated corpse in the service of catelyn. Do wonder what she needed Jaime for.

Think we will be back to all out war in the next book!!
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Post by Mrs Figg Sun Jun 15, 2014 2:38 pm

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Post by Ringdrotten Sun Jun 15, 2014 6:59 pm

Lancebloke wrote:I think Brienne may now be a reanimated corpse in the service of catelyn.

Now that's a scary theory - and plausible, I guess pale
The Winds of Winter spoilers:

Read this as well on the wiki page for the sixth book: "On the other hand, Martin noted the challenge to avoid a situation like the finale of the TV series Lost, which left some fans disappointed by deviating too far from their own theories and desires". I am very relieved by this statement, as not two days ago I was thinking "as long as the books don't end like Lost did" Laughing Too many loose ends in that series. I really hope Martin manages to write a satisfactory, conclusive ending to his story.

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Post by Lancebloke Sun Jun 15, 2014 7:37 pm

Me too. There are so many plots that need to be tied back together and with all of the annoyingness of everyone dying, it needs to have some happy endings.

I think the next book should be the darkest. I am wondering if the wall will be lost and the Others will be pushing south. Would be interesting to see them appearing in Essos too.
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Post by Mrs Figg Sun Jun 15, 2014 11:15 pm

I was wondering what could stop the White walkers from taking over and then I realized the only thing that stops them is fire.
2 +2 = Dany and her Dragons.
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Post by Eldorion Mon Jun 16, 2014 12:27 am

Tonight: the Father's Day episode that will have everyone talking. Very Happy
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Post by Lancebloke Mon Jun 16, 2014 7:54 am

It is tonight for us. Hoping that it will be as good as in the book!
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Post by Eldorion Mon Jun 16, 2014 7:18 pm

There were some changes from how the final chapters of the book went, which kinda bugged me since I had just re-read those passages recently and consider them to be among Martin's best. But having slept on it, the episode is good, and it seems to have been received really well by non-readers.

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