In theatres: 'Desolation of Smaug' [2] SPOILERS

Then they must have telepathically absorbed the information from somewhere because there is nowhere in the films its explained or set up, or given meaning.
It just happens because thats how the book ends. But unfortunately all the important stuff pertaining to that ending is absent before that point (even seeing the elves leaving Middle Earth was absent from the theatrical cut- its not until Elrond sends Arwen away you hear about the ships at all, or that they sail, and then its not made clear what will happen there, several folk have said to me they thought she was just being sent away over the sea for safety until it was all over).

Nor is Frodo troubled by the loss of the Ring in the film as he is in the book because he gives it up at Mt Doom when he chooses to take Sam's hand and live on without it.
Consequently there is no jewel from Arwen for when the darkness is on him, no lamenting against his fate, he just has a sore arm from time to time in the film- all the reason for him still desiring the Ring, his lack of rejection of it, his sense of personal failure in his own mind, all those reasons he is given passage are absent from the films.
About the best reason the film can muster is that he cant settle back down again.

Where would you say Figg in the films are these things set up or explained?

Well, this scene works well enough to explain why Frodo leaves. It doesn't do the book justice, but it works, and if you've read the books you'll fill out the rest subconscienciously (which is not ideal for any film, but what do I care about how the film looks to people who haven't read the books - the very same people who love TH! )

that stuff isnt important to most people. Most people just love watchig the films. Me too.

Ringdrotten all that scene says is he cant settle back in. He cant go back to how things were.
You dont get to go to the Undying Lands because you cant get back into our old way of life becuase of everything you've seen.
Half the young soldeirs that took part probably feel that way.
Where is the notion that he feels a failure, that he rejected the Ring and still longs for it, where's the jewel to indicate this desire still, his crying out against it?
Film Frodo rejects the Ring at the last- he has no reason to go and if that scene is meant to be the substitute reason its very weak indeed.

nope its brilliant. its all brilliant. 9 hours plus of brilliance.

I can feel my sense of being infuriated coming on!!!   

Now now petty, try this......................................



whilst softly singing " where's the little pixies" from Blackadder & you'll soon feel ok  

Or this



You might want to sing it note for note, Petty

I tried that Azriel, probably shouldnt be attempted when drunk, or when wearing a kilt, now Ive scared all my cats away   

Sorry Ringrotten, I tried it but I couldn't make it past that ridiculously cheerful whistling at the start   
You should be allowed to shoot whistlers and mime artists on sight  

sorry petty   couldnt resist ! Now, here's your hero, & ours, Peter Jackson, with his own rendition, just for you, you Wiley Scotshobbit you !   

And, God forgive ! Here you BOTH are !   



{{{{ Im loving this ! sorry !   }}}}

 How the buggery do they manage to make even the drums sound happy? Thats shouldnt be possible!   

Drums should either be played at such low frequencies you only hear them in your bones.
Or they should sound like machine gun fire for the ears, hammering into the brain without respite- like this   

I think its more like dis

the art of giving interviews.

 

But rather telling to of course. He not only diverts any real questions about the films he also is quite specific in laying everything at PJ's door saying the actors just turn up and do their best.
I'd blame PJ too if I were him.   

"So everyone has pretty much slept with Peter Jackson?"
"Yes."

"Fueled by cocaine."

Suddenly it's all so clear.   

And more talk of Benedict drunk, is this the same interviewer as the Sheeran interview?  

So remember how audiences in Japan and China were supposed to push DOS over the billion mark?  Well it's been out in those markets for 3-4 weeks now, and it's looking less and less likely that that's going to happen.

http://boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=hobbit2.htm

Total Lifetime Grosses

Domestic: $257,805,640   27.3%
+ Foreign: $686,400,000   72.7%
= Worldwide: $944,205,640

 





I remember people on torn saying that basically because there was a dragon in the movie that people in China would just flock to see it, because, ya know, everyone in China likes dragons because stereotype.   

That does sound familiar now that you mention it...

Just so everyone is aware (and I'm mostly thinking of Petty here) the BrRip of DOS is floating around in the ether. Happy editing.

Pettytyrant101 wrote: 

But rather telling to of course. He not only diverts any real questions about the films he also is quite specific in laying everything at PJ's door saying the actors just turn up and do their best.
I'd blame PJ too if I were him.   

At least he got to improve his table tennis skills.   

https://youtu.be/25dVQU3JkkE?t=24s

Someone on ToRN put up a pic of Smaug from the film under the title 'Amazing pic'
It was, it was amazing how that if I didnt know it was from TH I wouldn't guess in a million years it was supposed to be Smaug.

So then I wondered what it would look like if it were closer to Tolkiens colour scheme.

So I redid the head.

Heres the original pic-



And heres the redo-

so i liked the trailer one more.. like it has waterfalls, which bring this whole idea that elven caves are different than dwarf and goblin caves because it brings elements of the world outside in if u get what i mean. i also liked that the throne was further away and that the trailer just looks... idk.. more epic and impressive.

Hmm...as a part time purist I'm not too sure about that Petty-obviously it would look different if he had been planned red from the start, but it dosen't like quite as natural like that, and his horns etc don't seem to be as threatening like that.

You should have left his chin dark, imagine Smaug with a stylish goatee...

I think all the trailers looked better, the lighting was stronger.

truly bizarre Finnish version