Re: In theatres: 'Desolation of Smaug' | SPOILERS

by Pettytyrant101 Mon Dec 30, 2013 1:45 pm

Dont worry Kafria I fixed that in the purist edit! My version should fit reasonably well with LotR's time line and the Ring is no big deal in my cut. As it should be.
(I got rid of the entire stupid furnace bit too Twisted Evil

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by Kafria Mon Dec 30, 2013 1:47 pm

Radaghast wrote:
Kafria wrote:On the melty gold statue, I assumed that the statue had been under construction before the dragon came, but not finished. The furnaces were used to fill the stone mould, the outer edge hardening enough due to the cold stone so it held it's sharpe momentarily before the residual heat of the molten gold inside turned it back to liquid. Daft, unlikely, and the gold would have dropped instead of spurting out, but a possible logic?
I'd say no. And I refuse to entertain any notions of rationalizing such a ridiculous scene that ends being a waste of everyone's time, including the viewer's.

Oh... Okay then.

tiptoes gently away

Smile

by Kafria Mon Dec 30, 2013 1:49 pm

Pettytyrant101 wrote:Dont worry Kafria I fixed that in the purist edit! My version should fit reasonably well with LotR's time line and the Ring is no big deal in my cut. As it should be.
(I got rid of the entire stupid furnace bit too )

Glad to hear it, if I get organised I intend to take a gander and offer my thoughts this week, but I still appear to have no access to the second skydrive, just the first.

by Pettytyrant101 Mon Dec 30, 2013 1:53 pm

pm me your email again Kafra, I'll sort that out for you hopefully.

by Radaghast Mon Dec 30, 2013 1:55 pm

Kafria wrote:
Radaghast wrote:
Kafria wrote:On the melty gold statue, I assumed that the statue had been under construction before the dragon came, but not finished. The furnaces were used to fill the stone mould, the outer edge hardening enough due to the cold stone so it held it's sharpe momentarily before the residual heat of the molten gold inside turned it back to liquid. Daft, unlikely, and the gold would have dropped instead of spurting out, but a possible logic?
I'd say no. And I refuse to entertain any notions of rationalizing such a ridiculous scene that ends being a waste of everyone's time, including the viewer's.

Oh... Okay then.

tiptoes gently away

by Norc Mon Dec 30, 2013 2:13 pm

Forest Shepherd wrote:Nice Game of Thrones tie-in there Norc.

I don't understand how you can like Azog though!
Bard, I get; Kili I can imagine; but Azog? And Thorin?!

No mention of Thranduil!!

Wow.

I'm glad you liked it more the second time around though, coolios.

The second time around I saw Stephen Colbert, noticed what you said about Bilbo being shocked with himself for killing the mutant grub, and was subtly mad about all the little stupid things that I saw.

By the way, why couldn't Cumberbatch play a character who's face we can see? That would be awesome! Cumberbatch as Bard, or as a slightly sinister Wood-elf, or some random Lake-towner who makes disparaging comments about the dwarves!

omg.. how did i forget thrandy-pants! he's just plain awesome Very Happy

he's a bit of a dick, but he's so awesome Cool

After seeing Bilbo be disgusted, i got another view on it. maybe it isn't the fact that he killed that ugly ass spider, but the fact that he is off somewhere els defending a silly ring instead of back with the dwarves helping them. I didn't spot stephen colbert, though i noticed that Luke Evans plays both Bard and Girion, which was rather cool Very Happy

like they had done some cool make-up so the only resemblance was the eyes.

i also was hoping Benedict could be an elf or something, like a cameo. but i think he would be recognized so easily it would steal away the focus. also he is in one shot, although wearing Sauron's helmet, but it is him posing. (i recognise that stand Rolling Eyes

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by Norc Mon Dec 30, 2013 2:18 pm

Mrs Figg wrote:Bendydick Cumberbumber should have been Thranduil. Lee Pace was good but Cumberwumber would have given him gravitas and scaryness. Only problem is Cumber looks horrible in blonde wigs.

agree figgy ^^

also, Kafria, i kinda agree on the 3D thing, i didn't see this movie in 3D, but subtitles are shit in 3D which is mainly the reason i don't go. it takes me half an hour to ignore them enough to not be distracted..

by Norc Mon Dec 30, 2013 2:20 pm

btw, Kafria, i also agree that Tauriel wasn't that bad. I giggled-snorted when she did that ridicolous healing thing, cus to me she was just scary as shit, but Evangeline Lily did a pretty good job, considering the clichè she was given. What they did to Beorn angers me far more (also Gandalf pronounced it correctly cheers

) like.. he is the fucking first of his goddamn kind and he is proud and awesome and omg!

by Pettytyrant101 Mon Dec 30, 2013 2:44 pm

The actress did well enough all considered (well when she wasnt made of cgi which is a surprising amount of her screen time) but the character is terrible, the love triangle embarrassing and the dialogue alternates between laughable and cringeworthy.

by Radaghast Mon Dec 30, 2013 2:45 pm

I wonder who she goes with in the end—Jack or Sawyer?

by Norc Mon Dec 30, 2013 2:53 pm

Pettytyrant101 wrote:The actress did well enough all considered (well when she wasnt made of cgi which is a surprising amount of her screen time) but the character is terrible, the love triangle embarrassing and the dialogue alternates between laughable and cringeworthy.

like when? i spotted perhaps two places.

by Pettytyrant101 Mon Dec 30, 2013 2:57 pm

Well she is entirely cgi for most of the spider sequence and most of the barrel escape and a part of the Laketown fight.
Which accounts for about half her screentime- real person is conversation with Thranduil, and Kili at the jails, Legolas after the barrel escape and healing scene.

by Norc Mon Dec 30, 2013 3:07 pm

err. no.

by Pettytyrant101 Mon Dec 30, 2013 3:09 pm

Odd she seemed to be when I just edited all those scenes out Shrugging

by Radaghast Mon Dec 30, 2013 3:13 pm

You made it up Razz

by Pettytyrant101 Mon Dec 30, 2013 3:17 pm

Apparently so Rhaddy. I must stop doing that!

by Norc Mon Dec 30, 2013 3:18 pm

u need glasses petty. cus you're wrong.

by Pettytyrant101 Mon Dec 30, 2013 3:22 pm

Nope pretty sure Im not- her and Legolamb are cgi for most of the action sequences and most of what they do is action.
When you have to go through stuff a frame at a time you notice these things.

by Norc Mon Dec 30, 2013 3:23 pm

noooo nope no. no. a lot of the action sequences are not cgi! some of it yes, but not most of it!

on another note:
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In theatres: 'Desolation of Smaug' | SPOILERS - Page 31 Tumblr_inline_mygg1tv0y41r7nx6r

by Pettytyrant101 Mon Dec 30, 2013 3:24 pm

Lets see weird plastic look to bodies, unnatural impossible physical movements, yup looks cgi to me.

by Norc Mon Dec 30, 2013 3:25 pm

YES! BUT NOT ALL OF IT!

by Pettytyrant101 Mon Dec 30, 2013 3:26 pm

I didnt say all of it, I said about her half her screen time. Basically when she isnt talking she is fighting, and when she is fighting she is mainly cgi.

by Norc Mon Dec 30, 2013 3:27 pm

WHEN SHE IS FIGHTING SOME OF IT IS CGI!

by Pettytyrant101 Mon Dec 30, 2013 3:28 pm

Most of it in fact. They insert a few close ups of the real her to make you not notice the cgi version as much but thats all it is.

by Radaghast Mon Dec 30, 2013 3:29 pm

Could you post some screen shots, PT?