In theatres: 'Desolation of Smaug' | SPOILERS

Mithfanion wrote:
In this film, everyone and their mother is saying that The Darkness Is Coming. Every bad guy who gets half a chance utters the words. Gandalf and Radagast are involved in an immensely boring little subplot trying to find out who in the world this "Darkness" may be. Snore. Everybody in the audience knows already Jackson. Get on with it. Jackson overplays the constant references to Necromancer by doing it so often. as with everything he lays his hands on, it is over the top and too much. There is never a subtlety or hint to be found.

Smaug should indeed be his own creature. As he was in the book, yes, but also because it makes him more fearsome. Who says that Sauron would be able to direct and control Smaug? This is far from certain in the books, there is just an idea in the backstory that Sauron might make use of the immense damage Smaug could do. Film Smaug seems to be actively in league with Sauron, and be at his service.

Finally, the chase scene in Erebor might be the second worst part of the film ( after the incredibly boring sequence where they spent time in Lake-Town).

It doesn't make sense, no one believes what they are seeing, Smaug comes across looking foolish for standing in front of the statue so long while it erupts, while earlier he was unable to see a couple of Dwarves just above him on the bridge. Didn't Smaug have a fantastic nose? That he could smell the Dwarves even when Bilbo is inside but the dwarves are still outside Erebor. Yes they did. But that nose no longer functions when Jackson requires it.

And that is without considering that once again no one even gets a scratch on them, as in Goblin Town. Smaug is the most inefficient dragon ever it seems, how did he conquer the whole of Erebor? That is the question the invented chase sequence poses to me, a question that never occurred in the book because apparently Tolkien saw the absurdity of a couple of dwarves bringing the battle to Smaug.

Awful.

Mrs Figg wrote:your Tolkien signature sums it up perfectly Forest.   

Mrs Figg wrote:that Bombadil person is an irritating pretentious prat. Not saying what you mean is the antithesis of being Mancunian. Cant be doing with it.    

Forest Shepherd wrote:
what blasphemy PJ and Coven are cooking up in their cauldron of hippo-poo-worthy storytelling.


And Petty was right, why does Legolas clearly say Gondolin when we see "elves of old" or "ancient elves" or "my ancestors" or something like that for subtitles? The same thing happens later when Bolg or Azog or some other idiot uses Black Speech and, instead of the name we can hear, are shown a description of that person or place, whichever it was.

bungobaggins wrote:That Gondolin line made me question the validity of the captions throughout the film.

Forest Shepherd wrote:I believe I heard that while he was doing an interview as well. He snarls out "Cunting Dwarves!!" and everyone laughs and claps like he said something entirely else. It was odd.