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Post by Radaghast Wed Dec 18, 2013 5:31 pm

Yeah, I've seen that too Mad

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Post by Pettytyrant101 Wed Dec 18, 2013 5:31 pm

If the guy is going to claim as part of his evidence Tolkiens Chronology then give this in his evidence-

"Smaug's assault on Erebor and his eviction of its residents directly sets in motion (by way of forcing the dwarves to seek a new homeland in orc-riddled Moria) The War of Dwarves and Orcs."

I dont need to read any further.

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Post by Pettytyrant101 Wed Dec 18, 2013 5:33 pm

As I was editing DOS I thought of something I had missed before- in AUJ when Gandalf produces Thrain's key and he goes on to say that the map says there is a secret passage to the Lower Dungeons.
So why in DOS is it half way up the mountain?

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Post by Bluebottle Wed Dec 18, 2013 5:35 pm

Elthir wrote:Have people here discussed this [sorry if you have already]?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/seth-abramson/dislike-peter-jacksons-em_b_2342591.html

If not... Petty... make sure you have a full store of Buckie and then some!

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Post by Elthir Wed Dec 18, 2013 5:39 pm

Actually I linked to the 'wrong article' somehow... same author but in a different article he more compared Jackson's Hobbit to Jackson's The Lord of the Rings.

Must be more than one article at this site, but you folks probably have seen the 'other' one too then, I guess.

Sorry Eldo!
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Post by Elthir Wed Dec 18, 2013 5:46 pm

Oh yeah, found the other article: something like why Tolkien would be 'proud'. I won't link it, but that's the one I meant.

Ayway, I still think it's statuTe.
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Post by Radaghast Wed Dec 18, 2013 6:53 pm

Elthir wrote:Oh yeah, found the other article: something like why Tolkien would be 'proud'. I won't link it, but that's the one I meant.

Ayway, I still think it's statuTe.
Still think what is statuTe?
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Post by Eldorion Wed Dec 18, 2013 7:02 pm

Interestingly, I glanced around at his other articles and he actually really disliked DOS. Suspect

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Post by Mrs Figg Wed Dec 18, 2013 7:16 pm

well Bree is back.
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Post by Radaghast Wed Dec 18, 2013 7:28 pm

Eldorion wrote:Interestingly, I glanced around at his other articles and he actually really disliked DOS. Suspect

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Yeah, that's kind of weird.
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Post by Eldorion Wed Dec 18, 2013 7:48 pm

Mrs Figg wrote:well Bree is back.

I wonder for how long this time. Razz
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Post by Mrs Figg Wed Dec 18, 2013 7:50 pm

wow those people who run TORn are very defensive. Theres this gushing vomit inducing staff review, and at the end people get to post an opinion. Even the slightest, mildest criticizm gets immediately jumped on, literally theres a staffer telling the poor poster to shut up and stop moaning for daring to state the obvious ie this is not the Hobbit, and then the yappers all pile in to ward off the interloper.  Laughing  pathetic.


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Post by Norc Wed Dec 18, 2013 7:50 pm

What's up with bree dissappearing alll the time !?
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Post by Elthir Wed Dec 18, 2013 8:09 pm

Eldorion wrote:Interestingly, I glanced around at his other articles and he actually really disliked DOS. Suspect

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/seth-abramson/the-top-5-most-prepostero_b_4446500.html

I second your  Suspect  Eldo. I didn't expect that at least.


It's probably statue, now that I've had more time to think about it. Or statute. Stature is right out.
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Post by The Wobbit A Parody Wed Dec 18, 2013 8:26 pm

Eldorion wrote:
The Wobbit A Parody wrote:The Denny's promotion seems forced. It's too bad there was no Return Of The King promotion with White Castle.

I don't recall seeing it myself, but there was a Lord of the Onion Rings promotion with Burger King back in 2001 Very Happy

{{{I don't think it was actually called that though.}}}

Ha! Good one, Eldo!

Hey, has anyone discussed Smaug vs. Balrog lately? We all know that Tolkien's Balrog would certainly defeat Tolkien's Smaug, but would Jackson's Balrog defeat Jackson's Smaug?
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Post by azriel Wed Dec 18, 2013 8:33 pm

Nah, PJ would make a bloody spectacle of it much like the "Godzilla vs...." series, If, as Ive heard, that Smaug cant sizzle a handful of irritating Dwarves then defeating a Balrog isnt on the cards, unless he TALKS the Balrog to death ?

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Post by Eldorion Wed Dec 18, 2013 8:34 pm

Would fire-breath even work against a creature composed of shadow and flame?
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Post by The Wobbit A Parody Wed Dec 18, 2013 8:41 pm

azriel wrote:Nah, PJ would make a bloody spectacle of it much like the "Godzilla vs...." series, If, as Ive heard, that Smaug cant sizzle a handful of irritating Dwarves then defeating a Balrog isnt on the cards, unless he TALKS the Balrog to death ?

Yes, lots of talking. In the book, the dwarves were too afraid to even enter the mountain, which doesn't square with the All Action Peter Jackson approach.

How about if Smaug poured molten gold on the Balrog, just like in, um, Game Of Thrones! Yes! It was very effective.
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Post by Elthir Wed Dec 18, 2013 8:42 pm

Where is Bree?


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Post by The Wobbit A Parody Wed Dec 18, 2013 8:46 pm

Eldorion wrote:Would fire-breath even work against a creature composed of shadow and flame?

Exactly! Peter Jackson didn't change that, I don't think. Unlike Ralph Bakshi, who gave us a creature of Shadow, Flame, Butterfly Wings, a Lion's Mane, and Fluffy Bedroom Slippers.
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Post by Eldorion Wed Dec 18, 2013 9:04 pm

Elthir wrote:Where is Bree?

Assuming this isn't an elaborate linguistic joke... Razz

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Post by bungobaggins Wed Dec 18, 2013 9:47 pm

Mrs Figg wrote:wow those people who run TORn are very defensive. Theres this gushing vomit inducing staff review, and at the end people get to post an opinion. Even the slightest, mildest criticizm gets immediately jumped on, literally theres a staffer telling the poor poster to shut up and stop moaning for daring to state the obvious ie this is not the Hobbit, and then the yappers all pile in to ward off the interloper.  Laughing  pathetic.

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Post by Music of the Ainur Wed Dec 18, 2013 10:10 pm

Mrs Figg wrote:wow those people who run TORn are very defensive. Theres this gushing vomit inducing staff review, and at the end people get to post an opinion. Even the slightest, mildest criticizm gets immediately jumped on, literally theres a staffer telling the poor poster to shut up and stop moaning for daring to state the obvious ie this is not the Hobbit, and then the yappers all pile in to ward off the interloper.  Laughing  pathetic.

I must go there now and comment then cause I have fairly thick skin in that way, I don't care what azzholes think of me... I posted my same review there as I did here basically but I don't think I got one comment...
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Post by Mrs Figg Wed Dec 18, 2013 10:12 pm

Elthir wrote:Where is Bree?

Turn left after the Barrow Downs, follow the Road for a mile or so, skip past dodgy looking fellows in black cloaks and Bree is up ahead. Avoid Hobbits with jewelry.  Very Happy 
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Post by Bluebottle Wed Dec 18, 2013 10:13 pm

Well, good on you MotA.  Very Happy Laughing 

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