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Post by Mrs Figg Thu Dec 05, 2013 10:47 pm

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Post by bungobaggins Thu Dec 05, 2013 10:55 pm

Some guy on torn saw the movie and posted his thoughts.

http://newboards.theonering.net/forum/gforum/perl/gforum.cgi?post=675515;sb=post_time;so=DESC;forum_view=forum_view_collapsed;guest=98410937

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So, this person went into the movie not knowing that the whole thing was going to be a last minute cgi-fest? I mean, come on. After AUJ how can anyone be that naive?

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Post by Radaghast Thu Dec 05, 2013 11:10 pm

For PJ: F You 

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Post by Bluebottle Thu Dec 05, 2013 11:15 pm

It does make a lot of sense though, that some of these over the top storylines are just Peter Jackson winging it.

Bilbo and the dwarfs fighting Smaug? Anyone who knows anything about Tolkiens story would know how completely out of synch that is with the logic Tolkien created.

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Post by Mrs Figg Thu Dec 05, 2013 11:16 pm

well if it was confirmation we wanted, this guy gives it. and how. Sad 

oh well, what can I say. They spent a butt load of cash and had some jollies for a year down in NZ, they all got paid and get to go to swanky after parties. We get to sit in the dark grinding our teeth and/or crying into our popcorn, or just sitting there bemused and bored. Dont know if I will even bother, but I may as well go just so i know what you guys will be talking about.

when I think back to when I first heard of TH being filmed, I was SO excited, so happy, couldnt wait, I imagined all manner of glorious stuff, and now its all gone and its worse than I could ever imagine. ok its just a film its no big deal, but still its a wasted opportunity on an artistic level.
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Post by bungobaggins Fri Dec 06, 2013 12:21 am

The moment with Bombur during the barrel sequence is worse than I thought.

http://newboards.theonering.net/forum/gforum/perl/gforum.cgi?post=675650#675650

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Post by Radaghast Fri Dec 06, 2013 12:30 am

Yup, sounds like PJ, whom I salute from the bottom of my heart:

F You 

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Post by bungobaggins Fri Dec 06, 2013 12:35 am

I think it'll go a little something like this.

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Post by Eldorion Fri Dec 06, 2013 1:56 am

bungobaggins wrote:The moment with Bombur during the barrel sequence is worse than I thought.

http://newboards.theonering.net/forum/gforum/perl/gforum.cgi?post=675650#675650
That whole thread is rather disappointing. Neutral
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Post by Tinuviel Fri Dec 06, 2013 2:14 am

I tried to avoid anything too spoilery (such as details about what exactly happens), but
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Also, if they guy who wrote the review enjoyed AUJ and hated DOS, we can only hope that it may mean the opposite for us. Since our expectations are lowered instead of raised, we may enjoy it more.

Edit: is it sad that I just realized where the spoiler button was:shock: 

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Post by bungobaggins Fri Dec 06, 2013 2:16 am

I don't see how that entire sequence (barrels) can be anything but laughable.

I don't understand the scar thing either, and I think that if someone who enjoyed AUJ and didn't like DOS will probably mean that we'll hate DOS times two.

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Post by Radaghast Fri Dec 06, 2013 2:17 am

Hah! Great avatar, bungo.

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Post by RA Fri Dec 06, 2013 2:20 am

That honestly sounds like a satire more than anything. If that's true, then wow: Stay away from the Silmarillion!
It's all we have left.

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Post by Radaghast Fri Dec 06, 2013 2:21 am

Yeah, go make King Kong vs. Mecha-Godzilla or something.

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Post by Eldorion Fri Dec 06, 2013 2:24 am

I think there must be something in the water at Rhosgobel. Bungo...? Suspect
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Post by bungobaggins Fri Dec 06, 2013 2:25 am

Recoveryanonymous wrote:That honestly sounds like a satire more than anything. If that's true, then wow: Stay away from the Silmarillion!
It's all we have left.
WE WANT 10 MOVIEZ BASED ON THE SILLYMARILLION!!!!!!!!!!! IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT DON'T WATCH THE MOVIEZZZZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11!!!!!1

[[[[[[[[[The whole Thorin surfing on lava sounds like Revenge of the Tshi and the whole Mustafar sequence]]]]]]]]]]]]]

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Post by bungobaggins Fri Dec 06, 2013 2:26 am

Eldorion wrote:I think there must be something in the water at Rhosgobel.  Bungo...? Suspect
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Post by RA Fri Dec 06, 2013 2:27 am

Radaghast wrote:Yeah, go make King Kong vs. Mecha-Godzilla or something.
Really though, it's clear that's the kind of movie he wants to make; I don't know why he chooses source material that he has to fight with in order to get there. He needs to work on Pacific Rim or something similar.

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Post by RA Fri Dec 06, 2013 2:27 am

bungobaggins wrote:
Recoveryanonymous wrote:That honestly sounds like a satire more than anything. If that's true, then wow: Stay away from the Silmarillion!
It's all we have left.
WE WANT 10 MOVIEZ BASED ON THE SILLYMARILLION!!!!!!!!!!! IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT DON'T WATCH THE MOVIEZZZZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11!!!!!1

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Post by bungobaggins Fri Dec 06, 2013 2:29 am

HATERZ GONNA HATE!!!!!!!!

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Post by Radaghast Fri Dec 06, 2013 2:29 am

I think PJ is thumbing his nose at the us with shite like this. "Oh you didn't like the dwarves falling a hundred feet and then having a fat goblin fall from 100 feet on top of them?! Well, look at THIS! How you like me now, BITCHEZZZ?!"

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Post by Eldorion Fri Dec 06, 2013 2:34 am

bungobaggins wrote:WE WANT 10 MOVIEZ BASED ON THE SILLYMARILLION!!!!!!!!!!! IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT DON'T WATCH THE MOVIEZZZZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11!!!!!1
Okay, honestly, I was thinking about this the other day.  I know that "make it an HBO miniseries!" is the preferred method for hypothetically adapting The Silmarillion, especially since Game of Thrones became a big hit, but I don't think it would work.  It doesn't get around the fact that The Silmarillion is not a novel, barely has a coherent plot, and has characters appear and drop away constantly.  If you were going to try to adapt The Silmarillion, I think the best bet would be to copy the Marvel Cinematic Universe.  You can have stand-alone movies and/or self-contained duologies and trilogies for specific storylines, like the Feanor's rebellion, Beren and Luthien, etc.  Every now and then there are giant crossover movies that tie together the various story pieces and anchor the whole franchise.  Since the timeline is way more spread out than the MCU, these movies might be the transitions between different individual storylines.  The most obvious candidates for the subject of the mega movies would be the principle Battles of Beleriand.

Honestly, this would still probably be a gigantic mess, and I'd rather that The Silmarillion not be adapted at all, but I think this would be the best of many possible bad approaches.
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Post by bungobaggins Fri Dec 06, 2013 2:35 am

Recoveryanonymous wrote:
Radaghast wrote:Yeah, go make King Kong vs. Mecha-Godzilla or something.
Really though, it's clear that's the kind of movie he wants to make; I don't know why he chooses source material that he has to fight with in order to get there. He needs to work on Pacific Rim or something similar.
He needs to make another cheesy horror film.

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Post by Radaghast Fri Dec 06, 2013 2:36 am

Recoveryanonymous wrote:
Radaghast wrote:Yeah, go make King Kong vs. Mecha-Godzilla or something.
Really though, it's clear that's the kind of movie he wants to make; I don't know why he chooses source material that he has to fight with in order to get there. He needs to work on Pacific Rim or something similar.
His other movies don't seem to sell as well, though King Kong seems to be regarded as some sort of masterpiece for some reason scratch 

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