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Post by RA Tue Apr 01, 2014 2:01 am

Shrugging 

I'm here though  flower 

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Post by bungobaggins Tue Apr 01, 2014 2:04 am

Got a little sunshine for your flower RA. Very Happy 

 sunny 

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Post by Mrs Figg Tue Apr 01, 2014 2:19 pm

Recoveryanonymous wrote:Shrugging 

I'm here though  flower 

 Kissing 
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Post by RA Wed Apr 02, 2014 6:32 am

bungobaggins wrote:Got a little sunshine for your flower RA. Very Happy 

 sunny 

Mrs Figgs wrote:  Kissing 

 pub 

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Post by Pettytyrant101 Mon Apr 07, 2014 3:28 pm

Nobody at all watched the DOS edit yet?  Mad 

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Post by Ringdrotten Mon Apr 07, 2014 3:32 pm

I've downloaded it Embarassed

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Post by Pettytyrant101 Mon Apr 07, 2014 3:34 pm

That was more than a bloody week ago!!  Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Its only about an hour long  Mad 

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Post by Ringdrotten Mon Apr 07, 2014 3:43 pm

I need to muster some courage first Sofa

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Post by Mrs Figg Mon Apr 07, 2014 5:08 pm

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Post by Pettytyrant101 Mon Apr 07, 2014 6:28 pm

Well it takes less courage than to watch Pj's, about 2 hours worth less.

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Post by bungobaggins Tue Apr 08, 2014 5:26 am

Petty, I'm not sure where I left off on my comments for the DOS edit, so I'll pick it up with the Barrels.

Barrels
This is 100 percent proof that Jackson could have done the barrel escape tastefully, without orcs, without elves in pursuit, and without mindless action. It could have been a fun two minute set piece of the dwarves riding the rapids. Hell, he could even leave the tops off the barrels. It could have been done well, but Jackson thinks we're stupid and need non-stop action to keep our dumb little brains entertained.

Lake-town
I would cut the boat ride from the river to Lake-town, but there's one problem. We only first hear Bard's name from the fact that the other dwarves don't know it and are assholes about it all, and only Bilbo bothered to ask. I think the least you could do is cut out the paranoid, "How do you know he won't betray us?" "We don't." exchange between Dwalin and Thorin.

Ha! I love how Bard entering Lake-town has become so simple and no Grima 2.0 Razz

I guess you can't really take out the black arrow stuff. Shrugging

I'm trying to find things to say about the night-time scenes in Lake-town. Fuck, Jackson really fucked up the whole story.

Erebor
Not having several of the dwarves get left behind makes it clear to me that I didn't give a crap about them at all. Fuck you, Bofur.

Christ, I just hate when Bilbo "finds" the secret staircase, it makes me cringe, "Oh, look, Bilbo did something important! See, we, the writers, haven't forgotten about him!". Thorin says, "If the map is true, then the hidden door lies directly above us." Um, ok, then look up you fooking moron! Did you not notice the big fucking statue in the side of the mountain? Does Jackson hate his audience?

Can we take out the faux-drama of "Oh, boo hoo, the sun set, let's give up."? Seeing as how you-know-who totally screwed the pooch, probably not.

The stuff with Smaug is good.

Good work, Petty. They could have made a good movie that was roughly three hours long that told the story of The Hobbit. Go to hell, Peter Jackson.

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Post by Pettytyrant101 Tue Apr 08, 2014 8:29 am

Thanks for watching and commenting Bungo.

I think I will cut out the line about betrayal- it no longer makes any sense anyway as they only go to Bards to get a heat and a meal before going to see the Master anyway. And they are no longer sneaking in.

I perhaps could dump the journey there as the guy on the gates of Laketown calls Bard by name. I will take a look at that.

I doubt I can remove the black arrow stuff- but I might be able to- that rather depends how things pan out in the final film.

I also hate the finding of the staircase- for  start whats a secret passage to the LOWER levels doing at the top of the bloody mountain, and second how does Thorin know its above them? The map he has is the one reproduced in TH book, its hardly topographical and full of local detail!

I tried to think of ways to take out the false melodrama- as the whole light of the moon thing doesn't in fact fit with the riddle on the map. But I couldn't see a way to do it.

'The stuff with Smaug is good.'

Thanks- I did a lot of work on that section and tried a lot of stuff out.

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Post by Mrs Figg Tue Apr 08, 2014 5:23 pm

''Fuck you, Bofur.''

Indeed.  Laughing 

Petty can you put a bit of new Barrels scenes on whatsit Dailymotion filed under Neeps? I am curious how you have managed to polish the turd.
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Post by Pettytyrant101 Tue Apr 08, 2014 5:38 pm

Doing it now Figg- but the sound is out of synch- seems it didnt like me slicing that scene out- but it will still give you an idea.

Should be up in 10-15 minutes.

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Post by Eldorion Tue Apr 08, 2014 5:39 pm

bungobaggins wrote:Did you not notice the big fucking statue in the side of the mountain?

You have keen eyes, Master Bungo.
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Post by Pettytyrant101 Tue Apr 08, 2014 5:55 pm

Here you go complete with wonky sound  Mad  (and people wonder why I am so crabbit!  Mad )


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Post by Radaghast Tue Apr 08, 2014 6:22 pm

bungobaggins wrote:Does Jackson hate his audience?
Yes.

He also hates Tolkien.

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Post by Bluebottle Tue Apr 08, 2014 6:49 pm

I got around to watching it, Petty. Nod  But I only got through AUJ so far ( a bit of DoS too, but not much.)

I might have some thoughts on that later.

All in all I must say good job, you almost made it into a whatchable movie.  Razz 

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Post by Mrs Figg Tue Apr 08, 2014 6:53 pm

Pettytyrant101 wrote:Here you go complete with wonky sound  Mad  (and people wonder why I am so crabbit!  Mad )


That is a thousand times better!  cheers Thumbs Up  Its a different film  Very Happy 
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Post by Bluebottle Tue Apr 08, 2014 7:03 pm

They still defy all laws of physics by not turning over or sinking. Razz  But, yeah, that is a lot better. Very Happy 

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Post by Pettytyrant101 Tue Apr 08, 2014 9:24 pm

Figg I can upload the purist edit to dailymotion for you- Ive broken it up into three parts (theres a 1 hour max limit on uploads), so when you have the time to watch a part (an hour) let me know, but you have to let me know 2-3 hours before you want to watch it so I can upload it- that way you can watch it soon as its up and less chance of it being pulled before you get the chance to.

So let me know when you want me to upload the first part.

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Post by Mrs Figg Tue Apr 08, 2014 9:30 pm

Very Happy  cheers that would be great. My monthly credit thing is low until the 15th and then watching streaming and vids etc should be quicker, at the moment its taking two hours to open emails let alone watch vids, but I will watch next week. I will let you know well in advance.  Thumbs Up 
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Post by Pettytyrant101 Wed Apr 09, 2014 4:15 pm

No probs- its all ready to be uploaded so just give me the word when.

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Post by bungobaggins Wed Apr 09, 2014 4:35 pm

Radaghast wrote:
He also hates Tolkien.

That's a given.

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Post by Mrs Figg Wed Apr 09, 2014 5:10 pm

I watched that barrel clip again. its remarkable how pleasant it is to watch. I really like it a lot.  Very Happy 
The only thing that felt wrong was the way the Dwarves look like men in costume. Dwalin in particular looks way too big, he looks every inch of the 6ft 2 he probably is in real life.
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