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Post by Pettytyrant101 Sat Aug 03, 2013 3:24 pm

When was that fist photo taken? 'Cop a feel at work day'? Shocked 
Guess the BBC hasnt changed much since the 70's afterall!

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Post by Norc Sat Aug 03, 2013 3:33 pm

i don't understand


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Excellent news! cheers
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Post by Amarië Sat Aug 03, 2013 5:58 pm

Pettytyrant101 wrote:When was that fist photo taken? 'Cop a feel at work day'? Shocked 
Guess the BBC hasnt changed much since the 70's afterall!

She's not a teen. That's progress, right?

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Post by Pettytyrant101 Sat Aug 03, 2013 6:17 pm

Well I suppose its a start!

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Post by Norc Sat Aug 03, 2013 7:11 pm

how many times have you watched the teaser trailer.
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Post by Ringdrotten Sun Aug 04, 2013 2:14 am

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Seeing that picture makes me want to watch the old Jeremy Brett series again! I've got a few episodes left, but for some reason I don't want to watch them yet. I don't want the series to end, if you can understand it. Mack er godt øl forresten, Nora Smile

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Post by Norc Sun Aug 04, 2013 12:24 pm

yeah, totally understand, i hate to end a series :/ or a book for that matter.

ja! mack øl e kjempegodt Very Happy æ e litt pyse og like beste den lyse arcticen Rolling Eyes
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Post by Ringdrotten Sun Aug 04, 2013 12:32 pm

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ja! mack øl e kjempegodt Very Happyæ e litt pyse og like beste den lyse arcticen Rolling Eyes

I'm not sure which type it was that I had yesterday, it came from the tap and I didn't pay much attention to what was written on it Wink Very good, though Nod

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Post by Pettytyrant101 Sun Aug 04, 2013 12:34 pm

Sadly, whilst the writing and acting remains as good as always Ringdrotten, the very last stuff is pretty short on Sherlock Holmes due to Bretts increasing ill health and for a chunk of it his role is pretty much taken over by Mycroft stepping into his shoes.
And whilst Cumberbum is good in the role, he's no Brett. who gives one of those once in a life time performancs and literally gave his mental health away to get inside Holmes.

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Post by Norc Sun Aug 04, 2013 12:36 pm

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ja! mack øl e kjempegodt Very Happyæ e litt pyse og like beste den lyse arcticen Rolling Eyes

I'm not sure which type it was that I had yesterday, it came from the tap and I didn't pay much attention to what was written on it ;)Very good, though Nod

 yes i know ^^ i think mack is the only of like two in norway who makes beer without adding anything to the prosess to make it faster. also the co2 made when making beer is afterwards use in zodas.
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Post by Norc Sun Aug 04, 2013 12:37 pm

brett went mad?
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Post by Ringdrotten Sun Aug 04, 2013 12:39 pm

"Sadly, whilst the writing and acting remains as good as always Ringdrotten, the very last stuff is pretty short on Sherlock Holmes due to Bretts increasing ill health and for a chunk of it his role is pretty much taken over by Mycroft stepping into his shoes" - Petty

I knew that he got very ill near the end, and that he passed away before they could film all the books, but this was news to me :(It's both interesting and a saddening to read about how he committed himself to the role and almost became Holmes himself. An excellent actor he was.

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Post by Pettytyrant101 Sun Aug 04, 2013 12:44 pm

In the latter part of 1986, Brett exhibited wild mood swings that alarmed his family and friends, who persuaded him to seek diagnosis and treatment of manic depression. Brett was given lithium tablets to fight his manic depression. He knew that he would never be cured; he had to live with his condition, look for the signs of his disorder and then deal with it. He wanted to return to work, to play Holmes again.

The first episode to be produced after his discharge was a two-hour adaptation of The Sign of the Four in 1987. From then on the difference in Brett's appearance and behaviour slowly became more noticeable as the series developed. One of the side effects of the lithium tablets was fluid retention; he was putting on weight and retaining water. The drugs were also slowing him down. According to Edward Hardwicke, Brett smoked up to 60 cigarettes a day, which "didn't help his health." He also had heart troubles. His heart was twice the normal size; he would have difficulties breathing and would need an oxygen mask on the set. "But, darlings, the show must go on", was his only comment.

During the last decade of his life, Brett was treated in hospital several times for his mental illness, and his health and appearance visibly deteriorated by the time he completed the later episodes of the Sherlock Holmes series. During his last years, he discussed the illness candidly, encouraging people to recognise its symptoms and seek help. - wiki

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Post by Ringdrotten Sun Aug 04, 2013 12:46 pm

Norc wrote:brett went mad?

This is from the wikipedia article about Jeremy Brett, a paragraph on him as Sherlock Holmes, which describes what happened in brief:

Edit: You beat me to it, Petty - I'll leave this post, though, as this paragraph is an interesting read as well.

"As Sherlock Holmes

Although Brett appeared in many different roles during his 40-year career, he is best remembered for his performance as Sherlock Holmes in The Adventures of Sherlock Holmes, a series of Granada Television films made between 1984 and 1994. These were adapted by John Hawkesworth and other writers from the original stories by Sir Arthur Conan Doyle. Even though he reportedly feared being typecast, Brett appeared in 41 episodes of the Granada series, alongside David Burke and, latterly, Edward Hardwicke as Dr Watson.

After taking on the demanding role ("Holmes is the hardest part I have ever played — harder than Hamlet or Macbeth"[9]) Brett made few other acting appearances, and he is now widely considered to be the definitive Holmes of his era, just as Basil Rathbone was during the 1940s. Brett had previously played Doctor Watson on stage opposite Charlton Heston as Holmes in the 1980 Los Angeles production of The Crucifer of Blood, making him one of only four actors to play both Holmes and Watson professionally (the other three are Reginald Owen, as Watson in the 1932 film Sherlock Holmes and Holmes in 1933's A Study in Scarlet,[10] fellow Old Etonian Patrick Macnee, who played Watson first in 1976's Sherlock Holmes in New York and Holmes in 1993's The Hound of London,[11] and Carleton Hobbs, who portrayed both roles on the radio).[12]

Brett had been approached in February 1982 by Granada TV to play Holmes. The idea was to make a totally authentic and faithful adaptation of the character's best cases. Eventually Brett accepted the role. He wanted to be the best Sherlock Holmes the world had ever seen.[13] He conducted extensive research on the great detective and Sir Arthur Conan Doyle himself, and was very attentive to discrepancies between the scripts he had been given and Conan Doyle's original stories.[14] One of Brett's dearest possessions on the set was his 77-page "Baker Street File" on everything from Holmes' mannerisms to his eating and drinking habits. Brett once explained that "some actors are becomers — they try to become their characters. When it works, the actor is like a sponge, squeezing himself dry to remove his own personality, then absorbing the character's like a liquid".[15]

Brett was obsessed with bringing more passion to the role of Holmes. He introduced Holmes' rather eccentric hand gestures and short violent laughter. He would hurl himself on the ground just to look for a footprint, "he would leap over the furniture or jump onto the parapet of a bridge with no regard for his personal safety."[16]

Holmes' obsessive and depressive personality fascinated and frightened Brett. In many ways Holmes' personality resembled the actor's own, with outbursts of passionate energy followed by periods of lethargy. It became difficult for him to let go of Holmes after work. He had always been told that the only way for an actor to stay sane was for him to leave his part behind at the end of the day, but Brett started dreaming about Holmes, and the dreams turned into nightmares.[17] Brett began to refer to Holmes as "You Know Who" or simply "HIM": "Watson describes You Know Who as a mind without a heart, which is hard to play. Hard to become. So what I have done is invent an inner life".[18] Brett invented an imaginary life of Holmes to fill the hollowness of Holmes' "missing heart", his empty emotional life. He imagined: "...what You Know Who's nanny looked like. She was covered in starch. I don't think he saw his mother until he was about eight years old..." etc.[18] While the other actors disappeared to the canteen for lunch, Brett would sit alone on the set reading the script, looking at every nuance,[19] reading Holmes in the weekends and on his holidays. A theatrical adaptation, The Secret of Sherlock Holmes, by Brett's friend playwright Jeremy Paul ran at Wyndham's Theatre in London's West End with Brett and Edward Hardwicke during 1988 and 1989; the production subsequently toured.[8]

"Some actors fear if they play Sherlock Holmes for a very long run the character will steal their soul, leave no corner for the original inhabitant", he once said,[20] but: "Holmes has become the dark side of the moon for me. He is moody and solitary and underneath I am really sociable and gregarious. It has all got too dangerous".[9]"

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Post by Norc Sun Aug 04, 2013 12:56 pm

ooh, interesting read. it's a sad story. but no doubt he was a passionate man who wanted the Sherlock Holmes he portrayed the best one possible.
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Post by Pettytyrant101 Sun Aug 04, 2013 1:02 pm

a passionate man who wanted the Sherlock Holmes he portrayed the best one possible.- Norc

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Post by Mrs Figg Sun Aug 04, 2013 1:14 pm

Brett Is Holmes, there will never be a more uncanny portrayal. Its almost as spooky as Fry playing Wilde.
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Post by Norc Sun Aug 04, 2013 1:21 pm

well i will dare to say Cumberbatch does a pretty good job.
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Post by Ringdrotten Sun Aug 04, 2013 1:47 pm

Cool interview, haven't seen that before. And yes, Cumberbatch is a great Sherlock, far better than most others I've seen, but Brett remains my favourite. I should have loved to hear Brett do Smaug's voice as well, but that is of course impossible and I look forward to hearing Cumberbatch as Smaug - an odd coincidence, really, that two of the few actors that could pull off such a role both played excellent Sherlocks Very Happy

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Post by Norc Sun Aug 04, 2013 1:48 pm

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Post by Pettytyrant101 Sun Aug 04, 2013 1:52 pm

Cumberbatch is good- but its not as total a performance as Bretts, not as absorbed by the part as Brett's.
Cumberbatch acts Holmes well- Brett was Holmes.

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