Petty's Purist LotR Edits

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I'm off to watch the Megaedit .... this time, for sure!


err... but while it takes a few minutes to load...

Mmm I see no sign of you, wonder if that means you are actually watching the thing?

About 20 minutes in, good job with the editing so far! Sometimes the cutting seems a bit abrupt, but on the other hand the pacing seems faster without Merry and Pippin fooling around - which is for the best, definitely.

Unfortuntely some cuts are going to be abrupt no matter what I try to do to smooth them out- although there more can be done- the opening- up to 3 is company section begining- is a new thing I did for this edit- whereas the rest of the film, more or less I already knew what I was doing and had done earllier versions- I reckon I can smooth the opening out a bit yet.
Glad you are watching- just think right now its posssible that in at least two different parts of the world to which I have never been people are watching the edit- thats kinda weird in a cool way!

4.45 hours in (you were right Petty): Back to Frodo and Sam.

Two comments:

(1) Your interpretation of what needs removing or rearranging is spot on. Supurb job and supurb judgment, Petty. As Baingil suggests, it does seem to be a bit abrupt between bits at times, but that, I see, is imposible to avoid when some things just HAD to go.

(2) There is some excellent directororial stuff amid the story-telling absurdities. Breaks my heart to see such good bits among such stupid bits, but there you go. Seeing the old men and young men hauled into service is truly moving. There are other things too. Pippin geting taken away from Merry is good, though the fiery ball part of an otherwise reasonably good scene is PJ at his worst; so un-needed it brings tears (of disappointed rage!)

I'll take a break and watch the Frodo and Sam scenes a bit later in the day I think.

EDIT: Umm.... Petty, why do you always post while I'm posting? Rude!

Oh, and also I forgot to mention that I like the opening sequence - the recitation of the Ring Poem. Really sets the tone for a more canonical film.

Thanks Orwell- glad you are finding it more palatable now! Yes when I watch it back the overwhelming feeling is of a missed opportunity- in some parts its so close to perfect and then he throws a fireball at someone!!

Glad you liked that Baingil- I know Orwell wasn't too keen, but I think otherwise it has met with general approval (and I like it).

Baingil wrote:Oh, and also I forgot to mention that I like the opening sequence - the recitation of the Ring Poem. Really sets the tone for a more canonical film.

Yes, indeed, can't but agree, and when he finds Elrond's version of it, I'll be able to sleep soundly again.

I think I will wait till you find it seeing as it exists purely in your imagination!

(didnt you complain about the ring verse previously Orwell?

Pettytyrant101 wrote:Glad you liked that Baingil- I know Orwell wasn't too keen, but I think otherwise it has met with general approval (and I like it).

I thought I liked what you did? Are you talking about the voice-over at the beginning? I think I just would have preferred Elrond's version. Yours is far better than PJ's. (Even if it doesn't exist, it should).

maybe you did say that - I'm such a sensitive soul you know

"I would almost leave out the prelim bit - one ring to rule them all. My first negative comment. I'm sure there'll be more! "- Orwell

I was right a negative! I'm going to sullk in my barrel!

Pettytyrant101 wrote:maybe you did say that - I'm such a sensitive soul you know

As I rarely remember what I say, and sometimes imagine things so strongly they become reality (it's rumoured), I'll forgive you this time.

{{{{{Tangent: I got this idea for another movie. It will have to be a lot bigger budget than the "cat" thing though, aso we'll have to make that first and then use the profits. By then you'll be needing the challenge of a bigger project anyway}}}}}

It's awesome that you cut the scene of the Last Alliance and Isildur finding the ring (and losing it) into the scene with Gandalf and Frodo talking; here the abruptness of the music changing seems to work in your favor, in my opinion, since the sort of hobbit-ish quietness is being disturbed with all this talk about Sauron and Mordor and Great Rings. Although I wish there was a way to fix the sound in the middle of Isildur's fight with the orcs beside the stream.

Frankly that was a nightmare. If nly I could have had the soundeffects track and the video without Galadriel talking over th etop of most of it I coul have done something good with that section- if PJ had blooming well used Gandalf for the intro voice over would have worked perfect. Damn him to Hades!!

Baingil wrote:It's awesome that you cut the scene of the Last Alliance and Isildur finding the ring (and losing it) into the scene with Gandalf and Frodo talking; here the abruptness of the music changing seems to work in your favor, in my opinion, since the sort of hobbit-ish quietness is being disturbed with all this talk about Sauron and Mordor and Great Rings. Although I wish there was a way to fix the sound in the middle of Isildur's fight with the orcs beside the stream.

Well and good, Baingil (and I do agree with you) but don't talk when I'm talking, if you don't mind, it's quite rude (and what I'd expect of Petty, not a nice young lady like you).

Pettytyrant101 wrote:Frankly that was a nightmare. If nly I could have had the soundeffects track and the video without Galadriel talking over th etop of most of it I coul have done something good with that section- if PJ had blooming well used Gandalf for the intro voice over would have worked perfect. Damn him to Hades!!

See, Baingil! Isn't it so irritating.

I find the chatter to be quiet interesting. And I might forget my thoughts if I don't post them!

Ignore Orwell Baingil post away, his own fault anyway for so many stray thoughts, no idea who is encouraging them {{{ so whats the new idea then Orwell?}}}

Pettytyrant101 wrote:"I would almost leave out the prelim bit - one ring to rule them all. My first negative comment. I'm sure there'll be more! "- Orwell

I was right a negative! I'm going to sullk in my barrel!

I do remember. I changed my mind since. I decided it was good - failing having Gandalf say it to Frodo, or, alternatively, having Elrond's version.

I guess you are allowed to change your mind when its in praise.

Pettytyrant101 wrote:Ignore Orwell Baingil post away, his own fault anyway for so manay stray thoughts {{{ so whats the new idea then Orwell?}}}

{{{{{Complex, really. I'll have to think about it, but it involves a young Queen in a feudal (fantasy) land who involves other women fighting alongside the menfolk in a war - but in a way that will be realistic. I've had this idea about doing a fantasy that is really realistic - almost like real history in an unadorned doco. Much more thought required. The cat tale is going to be hard enough. I'll let both story ideas bubble away, but try to apply pen to paper on the second one. You can only do so much}}}}}

Pettytyrant101 wrote:I guess you are allowed to change your mind when its in praise.

Admittedly, I placed myself in a precarious position and, as always, found "praise" to be the best out and possible antidote!

{{{You can only do so much}}} -Orwell

{{{especially when your supposed to be watching a film!}}}}