Re: A Song of Ice and Fire

by Bluebottle Fri Mar 28, 2014 10:39 pm

My favourite of the scenes above.

by Bluebottle Fri Mar 28, 2014 11:04 pm

I think the one thing I find myself reacting to a bit with Georges logic is this concept of age old houses dying out all the time. Let's take the Starks as an example, they had 6 children. And let's say all five of the trueborn ones married and had children, how many possible heirs to Winterfell wouldn't that leave.

And we're to believe that all these thousands of year old houses disappear when one or two people die? If that was the case they would have been dying out in every war since the dawn of time? In reality there would always at least be a distant cussin to take over the title of Lord. Unless Westeros has some strange laws of inheritance, it comes across as a bit strange to me. Shrugging

by bungobaggins Fri Mar 28, 2014 11:24 pm

Is Game of Thrones basically a fantasy House of Cards?

by Bluebottle Fri Mar 28, 2014 11:49 pm

Well, part of it might be. Shrugging

by halfwise Sat Mar 29, 2014 12:52 am

Bluebottle wrote:
Eldorion wrote:I haven't seen much of season two, so could you say (maybe in spoilers) how it was different?

So I had a go and it became a bit of a ponderous tome, but here it goes..

There are of course a lot of differences betwen the series and the books and a lot of those are omissions. To simplify the story i n the series or for lack of time. Those I think are too many to mention, so I'll try to contain this to what I see as actual changes.

So in broad lines...

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That's what I've got at the moment at least, might have forgotten some things.

have to say, Blue, I'm very impressed by your memory both for the books and the show. I've read the books twice now (though the first time was 8 years ago) and I couldn't keep track of all that detail.

by halfwise Sat Mar 29, 2014 12:55 am

Mrs Figg wrote:
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Oh, okay. I'll put it in spoilers.

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by Eldorion Sat Mar 29, 2014 2:11 am

bungobaggins wrote:Is Game of Thrones basically a fantasy House of Cards?

It's much larger in scope (and cast ... oh god, the cast is huge). I suppose parts of it are reminiscent of House of Cards in terms of court intrigue, but there are other parts that are much more fantasy-esque. Battles and journeys and dragons and shit. The whole thing is loosely (very loosely) inspired by the Wars of the Roses if you're looking for an easy parallel.

by Radaghast Sat Mar 29, 2014 2:53 am

I'd say HoC is a non-fantasy version of GoT Very Happy

Oh wait, I forgot HoC was a BBC series first Embarassed

by Bluebottle Sat Mar 29, 2014 11:17 am

Eldorion wrote:
bungobaggins wrote:Is Game of Thrones basically a fantasy House of Cards?

It's much larger in scope (and cast ... oh god, the cast is huge). I suppose parts of it are reminiscent of House of Cards in terms of court intrigue, but there are other parts that are much more fantasy-esque. Battles and journeys and dragons and shit. The whole thing is loosely (very loosely) inspired by the Wars of the Roses if you're looking for an easy parallel.

Yeah, that was the part I meant. Nod

I guess part of the genius of Georges creation is that he realized a realistic fantasy world can be so complex it can have an entier series of House of Cards going on in the middle of it. Laughing

by Bluebottle Sat Mar 29, 2014 11:19 am

halfwise wrote:have to say, Blue, I'm very impressed by your memory both for the books and the show. I've read the books twice now (though the first time was 8 years ago) and I couldn't keep track of all that detail.

Watching the series back while I read probably helped.

But thank you, I do find the details and changes interesting. Nod

by Mrs Figg Sat Mar 29, 2014 1:44 pm

halfwise wrote:
Mrs Figg wrote:
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Oh, okay. I'll put it in spoilers.

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by Radaghast Sat Mar 29, 2014 2:19 pm

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by halfwise Sat Mar 29, 2014 2:46 pm

Mrs Figg wrote:
halfwise wrote:
Mrs Figg wrote:
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Oh, okay. I'll put it in spoilers.

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by Mrs Figg Sat Mar 29, 2014 5:46 pm

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yeah I guess so. But I have a weird taste in men so I wouldnt mind a scary scar faced dude.

by halfwise Sat Mar 29, 2014 9:05 pm

Women.

by Mrs Figg Sat Mar 29, 2014 9:08 pm

by halfwise Sat Mar 29, 2014 9:30 pm

If only you people wanted us just for our bodies, we'd at least have a fighting chance of knowing what was going on...

by Mrs Figg Sun Mar 30, 2014 2:05 pm

its probably better you dont know. Laughing

by halfwise Sun Mar 30, 2014 2:18 pm

by Bluebottle Sun Mar 30, 2014 4:02 pm

That was certainly a most enlightening conversation. Shocked

by Bluebottle Sun Mar 30, 2014 8:15 pm

It seems I've gotten around to that episode. *gulp*

by Mrs Figg Sun Mar 30, 2014 9:14 pm

have you watched it?

by Bluebottle Sun Mar 30, 2014 10:59 pm

Yeah, I have seen it before. Wink

Though I'm not sure knowing what happens helps too much in watching it. It's a pretty heartbreaking episode.

I'm rewatching the series as I'm going through book 3 at the moment. It's a bit of a happy coincidence it's just in time for series 4 as well.

by Lancebloke Mon Mar 31, 2014 8:32 am

Okay... so I am about a third of the way through book 3, part 2 and

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by halfwise Mon Mar 31, 2014 1:19 pm

Early on in this thread I said it was a bad idea to fall in love with any of Martin's characters. Bad for a character, bad for a reader, and probably bad for Martin because that's part of where his impact comes from as a writer. You keep reading partly in fear he may kill off another one.

Hmm.... if halfway through book 3, who has he killed off aside from Ned and Sansa's dire wolf?

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