Re: More Hobbit pictures | SPOILER THREAD

[Eldorion]

TORn put up an interesting analysis of 'The Scroll' that's worth a few minutes of your time.

On the not sure about that side of things- whats with the bridge? Where's that meant to be?

I had no idea what it was supposed to be but TORn's commentator suggested that it was the bridge leading to the gate of the Elven-king's caverns and I have to admit that's probably correct.

Scene 10. Barrels out of Bond.

There are two parts to this scene.

The first: the company crossing the bridge across the Forest River into the Halls of Thranduil. All 13 dwarves. Thorin is bringing up the rear, I think. And, seemingly, they’re alone.

The second: the company floating down the forest river to freedom. On the extreme right, Bilbo is the barrel-rider!

Detail: Notice how weathered the bridge is. It’s stood there for long, long ages. Notice also, the complete absence of Sindarin and Silvan elves. Have they been removed from the bridge to strengthen the photo’s impact? Finally, in the far distance, could that just be the Lonely Mountain beckoning?

I’m just as thrilled about the flow of this storybook as I am puzzled and intrigued about the little details, changes and omissions.

The absence of the elves here is a particular puzzler. But here’s a thought: the Cinema-con mess was a bit of a setback for the marketing campaign. Maybe, to avoid spooking any more horses, the role of the elves at the pointy end of An Unexpected Journey is being minimised for the nonce.

Or maybe they’re still keen to focus on the key characters.

Either way, it’s food for thought.

[David H]

On the not sure about that side of things- whats with the bridge? Where's that meant to be?

I had no idea what it was supposed to be but TORn's commentator suggested that it was the bridge leading to the gate of the Elven-king's caverns and I have to admit that's probably correct.

I'd made this assumption when I first saw it based primarily on the fact the the barrels are escaping under the bridge. For the barrels to make any sense at all to a casual viewer it has to be visually clear that there is a river coming out of the caverns and that there is no other practical escape route, so the river, the bridge and the gate have to be featured prominently in the movie. In this context the image makes perfect sense.

What doesn't make sense is why they all seem to be marching across the bridge of their own free will. My guess is that the scenes in the book where the dwarves run into the elven glades asking for assistance will be eliminated. Instead the dwarves would go directly to Thranduil's palace to ask for assistance, and be thrown in the dungeon because of some other grievance, perhaps trespassing or an old feud. It would streamline the narrative and keep the focus more on Bilbo.

Admittedly it's hard to imagine PJ passing up the sight gag of dwarves in fat suits chasing elves and falling all over each other in the dark when that's actually what's in the book, but that's still my guess.

[Mrs Figg]

I always thought Thranduils palace was in the forest?, there are no Elves present, and it doesnt look remotely Elven. I think its the Lonely Mountain as it seems to be on a mountainside. Maybe its after Dale? it seems a grim and lonely place, not the home of feasting forest Elvses.

[Mrs Figg]

had a little twiddle and fiddle with Elrond pic to try to make the moonlight shine on the map thingy. But its pretty titchy.

[chris63]

Found these on a German site.

http://www.herr-der-ringe-film.de/v3/de/news/tolkienfilme/news_89472.php?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=hdrf_de

[Pettytyrant101]

I posted them up on the countdown to release thread- should have put them here really.

[Ally]

Nice going I think I speak for everyone by saying that's the worst thing you have ever done

[Pettytyrant101]

What even worse than the time I accidently (on purpose) drunkenly flashed Her Majesty Queen Tin whilst up that tree?
Or the night I sung the 'Wizards Staff has a Knob on the End' song in the Duck and Muck, with gestures?
Or that time when I took a piss in Eldo's chocolate fountain in the Tower of Lore? (you can take that any way you like its bad all ways)

Surely this can't be the worst thing I've done Ally? If so I'm not trying hard enough!

[Ally]

I didn't hear about that I was most probably on my 5 month spiritual healing course or something! Still, this is up there make no doubt about it

[chris63]

[David H]

They have pockets to be picked! Even better news for the crabbitmeter I'd imagine.

[edit: or are those sporrans? ]

[Tinuviel]

I think these troll are a lot scarier looking than the cave trolls and what not from LOTR. They look more menacing. Then again, they do speak instead of roar, so maybe that will balance it out

[chris63]

[Eldorion]

Interesting take on the trolls. It's nice to see a fresh take that's not quite like anything in LOTR. Has there been any word on whether or not they speak though? I thought that was still up in the air.

[Mrs Figg]

yay I knew Chris would do his Sherlock thing. NICE haul that man!

[David H]

I think these troll are a lot scarier looking than the cave trolls and what not from LOTR. They look more menacing. Then again, they do speak instead of roar, so maybe that will balance it out

I agree, they do look more menacing. The LotR trolls were just big dumb brutes, but these are more clever looking, with 3 distinctly different personalities, and they are definitely NOT nice. I'm more and more convinced they'll talk, and if they do, I expect it will make them seem even more menacing rather than less.

[Mrs Figg]

I adore the Autumnal feel to Gandalfs poster, I wonder if we can we get some bigger images later for all these new posters? will these posters be put on PJs facebook page I am wondering? I am itching to have a fiddle and a twiddle. Its very hot and I need things to do.

[Lancebloke]

Mrs Figg, re your last post... please go to Bree and see the notice board there... might help with the things to do and fiddle/twiddle comment.

[Mrs Figg]

you mean fiddling 2000 bars of Latinum or twiddling on the single bed?

[Lancebloke]

Not sure where you got the twiddling on single bed thing from.... some peoples minds just full of filth!

I blame Rihanna.

[Mrs Figg]

yeah its her fault! But I did actually mean twiddling knobs on my steam powered Photoshop gizmo.

why do cats stare at me like they dont understand what I am saying.

[Lancebloke]

I think they stare at you becasue they DO understand what you are saying... that is why we all stare too.

[Mrs Figg]

[Pettytyrant101]

Yes of a quite evening there is nothing to beat a good knob twiddle.

[Mrs Figg]