Game of Thrones [2]

Here’s some fun questions! Let’s see if they can be answered with anything other than “creatively, it makes sense because they wanted it to happen”:

How was Jon Show actually a “traitor”?
Why didn’t the very real and heavily witnessed attack at Hardhome influence any of the Black Brothers into thinking that warm bodies on their side of the Wall might be a rather good thing?
Why would a feudal lord burn his only heir? or alternatively, Why burn your only heir when there were still horses left and you’re like 2 days away from your destination?
How did 20 men take out all provisions for an army of 5,000?
How did no one know about the Boltons’ troops (including the Boltons)
Does Dany have Rhaegal and Viseron trained or not?
Does Dany want to hold trials or not?
Why did Batfinger ask Carol for permission to invade Winterfell and then set up her arrest?
How was Sansa supposed to be getting revenge by “making Ramsay hers”?
Why did the High Sparrow want to frame Margaery?
Why didn’t Larry just ask Doran for Myrcella?
Why did Tyene cure Bronn?
Why did the Sand Fakes kill the captain?
Weren’t there multiple lion necklaces?
What the hell was that last scene in the House of Dark and Vague and why can Arya suddenly apply faces?
Why didn’t Faullaria kiss Larry to death…ya know…which would have actually done something rather than murdering a random innocent girl?
Why did Not!Strong Belwas strike chains off of Tyrion?
Why did Varys try and get Dany killed in S1 but is her biggest fan now
How were people on The Wall being appraised of the situation in Meereen?
Why was no one a little more disturbed by the fact that Qyburn appointed someone with blue skin to the Kingsguard?
Why did Carol have any power at all as “Queen Mother”? (she’s not “regent,” which means Tommen is old enough to be ruling).

*jumps out at you from behind a trashcan*

Just a friendly reminder that Sansa’s “empowering” moment this season was telling the person who warned her about her abuser that she wanted to die.

Lancebloke wrote:5 wasn't...

Bluebottle wrote:4 had major issues as well, although it did have some stunning moments too. And Pedro Pascal was just amazing. Lifted the performance of every actor he interacted with. And even in the three first you could see the building blocks to the catastrophe season 5 was. I'm with Bungo though, for the first three seasons it was probably one of the best fantasy television series that's been produced for all it's failings.

I do find it telling that David Benioff has said he was halfway through Storm of Swords when they pitched the show to George and HBO and got it comissioned. And that they said their ultimate goal with the series was "..to get to rw.", which by the way is halway through Storm of Swords. They had no plan beyond that, and really have no clue at adapting the series as a whole, and it shows.

Mrs Figg wrote:seasons 2-5 were pretty great all things considered.

Bluebottle wrote:Mm, yes..

Here’s some fun questions! Let’s see if they can be answered with anything other than “creatively, it makes sense because they wanted it to happen”:

How was Jon Show actually a “traitor”?
Why didn’t the very real and heavily witnessed attack at Hardhome influence any of the Black Brothers into thinking that warm bodies on their side of the Wall might be a rather good thing?
Why would a feudal lord burn his only heir? or alternatively, Why burn your only heir when there were still horses left and you’re like 2 days away from your destination?
How did 20 men take out all provisions for an army of 5,000?
How did no one know about the Boltons’ troops (including the Boltons)
Does Dany have Rhaegal and Viseron trained or not?
Does Dany want to hold trials or not?
Why did Batfinger ask Carol for permission to invade Winterfell and then set up her arrest?
How was Sansa supposed to be getting revenge by “making Ramsay hers”?
Why did the High Sparrow want to frame Margaery?
Why didn’t Larry just ask Doran for Myrcella?
Why did Tyene cure Bronn?
Why did the Sand Fakes kill the captain?
Weren’t there multiple lion necklaces?
What the hell was that last scene in the House of Dark and Vague and why can Arya suddenly apply faces?
Why didn’t Faullaria kiss Larry to death…ya know…which would have actually done something rather than murdering a random innocent girl?
Why did Not!Strong Belwas strike chains off of Tyrion?
Why did Varys try and get Dany killed in S1 but is her biggest fan now
How were people on The Wall being appraised of the situation in Meereen?
Why was no one a little more disturbed by the fact that Qyburn appointed someone with blue skin to the Kingsguard?
Why did Carol have any power at all as “Queen Mother”? (she’s not “regent,” which means Tommen is old enough to be ruling).

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Anyone got any answers? Nah, me neither.

Mrs Figg wrote:it was so slooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow.

Eldorion wrote:Some of these are really reaching.  It's pretty obvious that most of the show!Night's Watch considers Jon a traitor because he abandoned the long-time mission of keeping the wildlings out.  And I don't think that any of the guys who were at Hardhome participated in Jon's shanking so y'know, maybe it did influence them?  But it's hardly unprecedented in either fiction or reality for people to refuse to cooperate with those they hate even if it means putting their life at risk.

Eldorion wrote:And the show goes out of its way to give an explanation for Varys, with Tyrion arguing that Varys made sure the plots would fail while still being convincing to Robert.  Yes, this is almost certainly a retcon, and it does strain credulity, but to not even acknowledge the show's own explanation for this is disingenuous at best.

Eldorion wrote:There's enough stupid shit in S5 without actively trying to make it sound dumber than it was.

Bluebottle wrote:Some might have thought the Watches purpose was to defend the Seven kingdoms from the Wildlings, but the realization of the wrongness of that should have started to dawn on them at this point. Jon is not a traitor to the Watch in the show, he's simply a victim of some brothers xenophobia.

Risky though. He was willing to bet the last living Targaryan on a message reaching Jorah at exactly the right time all the way across the world? He and Illyrio sent the man they were backing for the throne off to die. Or are we meant to think that was intentional and they somehow knew that his young sister who could hardly speak in public would make this great ruler? it all sounds like in show retconning to me.

Either they are grossly incompetent, or Varys is simply lying. Either way it's a mismatched web that holds up to little or no scrutiny.