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Post by Bluebottle Mon Mar 09, 2015 12:48 pm

halfwise wrote:he wrote the Theon castration scene, for example.

Actually, I'm pretty sure David and Dan wrote the entirety of Theon's added storyline in season 3. With the castration scene simply added to George's episode. I can't find the reference right now, but it's out there somewhere.

And as far as George's scripts are concerned, the episodes he scripted are normally lauded as the best of the series by book fans. Blackwater and so on. Shrugging

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Post by halfwise Mon Mar 09, 2015 12:59 pm

It does make more sense that D&D interpolated that scene. I was rather surprised GRRM would have taken it there.

Blackwater was good storywise. But if you look at it and other scripts I remember by him, line by line, they are rather hamhanded. It seems his mind flips when he writes for a script and he becomes less naturalistic. If you remove the Theon story (and perhaps others) then perhaps he does stay closer to the source material than they do.

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Post by Bluebottle Mon Mar 09, 2015 1:03 pm

Here it is. It was from the commentaries.

In the DVD commentary, George R.R. Martin explains that he didn't write any of the scenes with Theon Greyjoy and Ramsay Snow in this episode (in which Ramsay emasculates Theon). The novels didn't state that Ramsay cut off Theon's genitals, though it was vaguely implied that he had.
http://www.westeros.org/GoT/Episodes/Entry/The_Bear_and_the_Maiden_Fair/Book_Spoilers/#Book_to_Screen

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Post by Bluebottle Mon Mar 09, 2015 1:05 pm

I think Blackwater might be my favorite episode. The dichotomy between the loud and quiet parts. I'll listen out for the dialogue the next time I watch one of Georges episodes though. Smile

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Post by halfwise Mon Mar 09, 2015 1:31 pm

He starts writing in sound bites.

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Post by Bluebottle Mon Mar 09, 2015 5:34 pm

New trailer. bounce

https://twitter.com/iTunesTV/status/574981199099076608

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Post by Bluebottle Mon Mar 09, 2015 5:36 pm

That was epic. Very Happy

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Post by Bluebottle Mon Mar 09, 2015 5:57 pm


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Post by Mrs Figg Mon Mar 09, 2015 6:42 pm

Bluebottle wrote:

oooooooh! shivers! goosebumps! bounce bounce bounce bounce bounce bounce bounce bounce bounce
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Post by Sinister71 Mon Mar 09, 2015 8:19 pm

Bluebottle wrote:

Shocked Very Happy Looks epic CAN NOT WAIT! bounce bounce bounce bounce bounce Very Happy

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Post by Bluebottle Mon Mar 09, 2015 10:44 pm

This season will be really interesting. It can be great or a complete failure. (Most likely it will be both.) This trailer gives me hope though. Nod

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Post by Mrs Figg Mon Mar 09, 2015 10:56 pm

coooo! hard to decide which gif is the coolest. My money is on the dragon. Nod alien although Bronn not bad either. Very Happy
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Post by Sinister71 Mon Mar 09, 2015 11:03 pm

I think it might be a success with people who only watch the show, and a failure with the people who want to book on screen. Suspect Shocked That sounds familiar... slap laugh slap laugh slap laugh

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Post by Eldorion Tue Mar 10, 2015 1:34 am

Oh man, that was even better than the first trailer.  I am so stoked for this season.  Feeling pretty optimistic about it living up to those hopes, too.  Don't let me down, D&D. bounce


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Post by Eldorion Tue Mar 10, 2015 1:36 am

Sinister71 wrote:I think it might be a success with people who only watch the show, and a failure with the people who want to book on screen. Suspect Shocked That sounds familiar... slap laugh slap laugh slap laugh

I dunno man, I think a lot of LOTR movie fans were disappointed by The Hobbit too, if the fall-off in box office after AUJ is any indication.

I try to separate faithfulness as an adaptation from quality as cinema (or television, as the case may be), though.  And in this case, the showrunners are being completely open about making changes and aren't claiming to provide the most faithful possible rendition of the books or some such bullshit, so I don't see anything to complain about. I'm glad we're guaranteed to see an ending to this story (the show's version of it), and not in 10-20 years.  I'm sure I won't like every creative decision they make, but I don't like all the creative decisions GRRM made either. Razz
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Post by Eldorion Tue Mar 10, 2015 1:38 am

I'm also excited by meaning we now know the wheel metaphor to have.  Dany has spent so long in Essos, it'll be nice to see her making strides back towards Westeros (even if they're mainly psychologically preparing herself) again.

Spoiler:
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Post by Bluebottle Tue Mar 10, 2015 3:40 pm

I don't think I have that many trepidations about changes from the book per se. More worries about the original writing, as I feel it has been a bit on and off previously.

A lot of the stuff in that trailer looks really promising though. And some stuff I'm sure will be great. (Jonathan Pryce for instance.) Other parts has potential to be both very good, or end up making little sense...

Spoiler:

You can at least not call their adaptation anything but ambitious.

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Post by Bluebottle Tue Mar 10, 2015 3:47 pm

This by the way is not the full trailer. There's about 30 seconds missing.

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If you want to see the whole thing do use this link. Smile

Bluebottle wrote:New trailer. bounce

https://twitter.com/iTunesTV/status/574981199099076608

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Post by Eldorion Tue Mar 10, 2015 7:57 pm

The iTunes/FB version also has the advantage of not being recorded with a potato. Nod
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Post by Bluebottle Wed Mar 11, 2015 4:18 pm

Yeah, there's that to consider. Razz

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Post by Bluebottle Wed Mar 11, 2015 4:19 pm

Good screencapruntrough of the trailer.

https://imgur.com/a/cDDCW

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Post by Eldorion Wed Mar 11, 2015 4:23 pm

I've already made that first screenshot of King's Landing my new desktop wallpaper. Nod
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Post by Bluebottle Wed Mar 11, 2015 4:34 pm

Ah, cool. Very Happy

What did you think of the SLFiW confirmation? Will cetainly be interesting, but not sure LF is in the moral position to fill the role of Manderly. (I want my "The North Remembers" moment, damn it. Sad )

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Post by Sinister71 Wed Mar 11, 2015 4:50 pm

I'm really excited about this season... I haven't gotten this far in the books yet so I'm cool with the way the series goes... might change once I get this far in the books but until then I am alright with whatever the show does. This season looks like its gonna be intense though

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