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Post by Amarië Mon Dec 30, 2013 4:11 pm

{{{I am sure there are some facinating(ly boring) law dudes you can spam the Sherlock thread with. Use your imagination. Smile }}}

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Post by Amarië Mon Dec 30, 2013 4:13 pm

Pettytyrant101 wrote:Who are we to judge the wisdom of the script writers?- Amarie

Round here, the women are usually judge, jury and executioner.

Which of course you have never, ever done yourself. Laughing

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Post by Pettytyrant101 Mon Dec 30, 2013 4:20 pm

Mad Yes, but when I do I am right! Obviously  Mad 

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Post by Amarië Mon Dec 30, 2013 4:41 pm

Pettytyrant101 wrote:Mad Yes, but when I do I am right! Obviously  Mad 

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Post by Pettytyrant101 Mon Dec 30, 2013 9:10 pm

Excellent post on Gallifrey Base amidst a pedantic Whovian style argument over the Doctors numbering.
Officially Capaldi is the 12th Doctor, but the 13th regen.
Some folk argue the War Doctor earns back the name Doctor in Day of the Doctor however and should be counted as a full Doctor, pushing Capaldi to number 13 and bumping everyone from 9 on up a place.
But I thought this response from a poster called Merkuri hit the nail on the head for me-

"The thing is, we only saw the very end of the War Doctor. He had hundreds of years of fighting. Even if he remembers that he didn't destroy Gallifrey, he was probably directly responsible for thousands of deaths. I mean, pointing a gun and pulling the trigger type of responsible.

The fact that he didn't blow up Gallifrey doesn't undo that. While he was doing those things, he didn't think of himself as The Doctor - not on the surface, at least. Deep down in his heart he still was, which is why The Moment was able to pull that name out of his head, and it's what she reminded him during Day of the Doctor. But he did none of those things in the name of "Doctor". When he was the War Doctor he put "The Doctor" inside a dark closet in his own head and didn't let him out because he was ashamed to let "The Doctor" see what he was doing.

Fast forward to Matt Smith's Doctor, standing on the tower above Christmas, talking to Clara about "Grumpy" and his 12 regenerations. At that point in his life, the Doctor knows everything that happened that last day of the Time War. He knows that the War Doctor helped save Gallifrey, and earned back the title of Doctor, at least for that one day. But he still has to remember everything that he did before then, between his regeneration on Karn and his experience with the Moment.

When he did those things "in the name of peace and sanity", he didn't want to call himself the Doctor. Now, talking to Clara, he still doesn't want to say "the Doctor did those things." To help himself live with what he's done, he put the War Doctor in a special category inside his head. For that one regeneration, he wasn't the Doctor, because "Doctor" doesn't mesh with the things he did.

Day of the Doctor was a redemption story, true, but remember that the Doctor is one man. The same man was there in that story three times. It wasn't the War Doctor, specifically who was redeemed. It was the Doctor himself - the whole man.

So the War Doctor gets his honorary Doctor title at the end, but he really wasn't a Doctor in terms of how he acted, so he doesn't get the privilege of inserting himself into the numbering. He's a Doctor, but he's "The War Doctor", not "The Ninth Doctor"."

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Post by Mrs Figg Mon Dec 30, 2013 10:31 pm

Amarië wrote:Laughing I like how the shocked gasp Bennyboy makes in the signature seems to be in respons to the picture.

Well, apparently slapping the doctor is just harmless fun, necessary to the story and as family friendly as short skirts and threatening a woman with rape. Who are we to judge the wisdom of the script writers? Shrugging

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Post by Bluebottle Mon Dec 30, 2013 11:52 pm

Amarië wrote:{{{I am sure there are some facinating(ly boring) law dudes you can spam the Sherlock thread with. Use your imagination. Smile}}}

{{{I would Amarië, but then Norc would roll her eyes at me again and I wouldn't really know what to say. Shrugging }}}

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Post by Norc Tue Dec 31, 2013 12:36 am

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Post by Pettytyrant101 Tue Dec 31, 2013 12:40 am

Hoi! Im watching you lot!!  Mad 

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Post by azriel Tue Dec 31, 2013 12:51 am

They'll be passing secret herrings amongst themselves next !  Rolling Eyes 

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Post by Pettytyrant101 Tue Dec 31, 2013 12:57 am

Right thats it- youre on my list too Azriel!  Mad 
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Post by azriel Tue Dec 31, 2013 1:06 am

lol! 

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Post by Bluebottle Tue Dec 31, 2013 1:09 am

What? Very Happy

What you want and what's going to happen might be two very different things Petty.

After all this is awards season and I've got my eye on Norcs ... award.  Laughing 

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Post by Pettytyrant101 Tue Dec 31, 2013 1:16 am

And Ive got my eye on a new pair of mithril toecapped boots and a row of cheeky arses needing booted with them!  Twisted Evil 

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Post by azriel Tue Dec 31, 2013 1:19 am

Ooooooh, I like sparkly shoes !

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Post by Pettytyrant101 Tue Dec 31, 2013 1:23 am

Not where youll be wearing them  Twisted Evil 

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Post by azriel Tue Dec 31, 2013 1:29 am

Up around my ears ?? *gulp*

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Post by Pettytyrant101 Tue Dec 31, 2013 1:30 am

Yes, eventually.  Twisted Evil 

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Post by azriel Tue Dec 31, 2013 1:34 am

ouch............
Hang on... toes or heels first ??

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Post by Pettytyrant101 Tue Dec 31, 2013 1:37 am

I dont wear bloody heels!  Evil or Very Mad {{not with a kilt anyway, thats a bit much, Im not Eldo  Mad }}}}

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Post by Bluebottle Tue Dec 31, 2013 1:39 am

You see. I don't even have to do the work myself.  Very Happy 

I'm the master.

Damn, I brought it back on topic.  :facepalm: Laughing

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Post by Pettytyrant101 Tue Dec 31, 2013 1:41 am

I'm the master.- Blue

I think Norc may have thing or two to say about that, but we shall see, come Awards Night.

"I'm the master.

Damn, I brought it back on topic. "


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Post by Norc Tue Dec 31, 2013 2:35 am

Pettytyrant101 wrote:I'm the master.- Blue

I think Norc may have thing or two to say about that, but we shall see, come Awards Night.

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Post by Pettytyrant101 Tue Dec 31, 2013 2:38 am

Ask Orwell, I am sure I heard him asking Mrs Figg about it in her shop when I was staggering by the other day.

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Post by Norc Tue Dec 31, 2013 2:43 am

oooooooh... ok.. naah.. i leave them to it .. you know..
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