Re: Critics review 'Desolation of Smaug' | POSSIBLE SPOILERS

by Radaghast Wed Dec 11, 2013 3:58 am

Wouldn't you like to be my neighbor, Smaug?

by Eldorion Wed Dec 11, 2013 4:00 am

bungobaggins wrote:It would probably be about all the talented people on the project and all the hard work they put into it. And their ability to do their best to give people something that they can enjoy, and something that they know people will enjoy.

He probably wouldn't like all the violence, though.

Perhaps not, though he was a Dawn of the Dead fan. Very Happy

http://blog.sfgate.com/parenting/2010/05/13/dead-and-fred-george-a-romeros-connection-to-mr-rogers/

by Radaghast Wed Dec 11, 2013 4:04 am

Hello, Mr. Zombie. Would you like to be my neighbor?

by bungobaggins Wed Dec 11, 2013 4:04 am

Wow, Mr. Rogers watched a horror movie, and liked it! Surprised

I think that it's safe to say that he probably wouldn't have watched it if it wasn't made by one of his former coworkers. He just seems like he was the kind of guy who will want to know what you're up to and how you're doing long after you're done working together.

by Sinister71 Wed Dec 11, 2013 4:05 am

by bungobaggins Wed Dec 11, 2013 4:06 am

Thanks, Sin, for the nightmares. Rolling Eyes

by bungobaggins Wed Dec 11, 2013 4:08 am

I just have this song engrained into my brain, ever since I was a kid.

I wish I could have met Mr. Rogers.

by Sinister71 Wed Dec 11, 2013 4:10 am

bungobaggins wrote:Thanks, Sin, for the nightmares.

BwaHaHaHaHaHa!!!!! Wont you be my neighbor? Twisted Evil

by Radaghast Wed Dec 11, 2013 4:13 am

"Can't sleep. Clown will eat me. Can't sleep. Clown will eat me."

by RA Wed Dec 11, 2013 4:15 am

Eldorion wrote:I think we should make that an official rule of Forumshire.

Did I just make a difference? Very Happy

by bungobaggins Wed Dec 11, 2013 5:23 am

Radaghast wrote:"Can't sleep. Clown will eat me. Can't sleep. Clown will eat me."

by Lancebloke Wed Dec 11, 2013 7:01 am

Never quite understood the scary clown thing. I normally just want to punch them.

by azriel Wed Dec 11, 2013 9:32 am

I agree Lance, I dont find them funny just fooking stupid & annoying!
As for Mr Rogers ! I 1st saw him in the film "The Burbs" with Tom Hanks, love that film, shows how quick it can be for neighbours to whip up rumour etc ! anyway, I thought he was a made up character ? ha Ha, you poor guys !

by Pettytyrant101 Wed Dec 11, 2013 10:54 am

Never mind the weird guy, who if I had kids would be one of the last people Id let them near, where is Norcs review?!!
I've got my hangover, Ive got some buckie to cure it and no review too read!!!
Norc!!! Evil or Very Mad

by Pettytyrant101 Wed Dec 11, 2013 1:22 pm

The long running BBC film critic show- Film 2013- reviews TH tonight.

Not sure how much stock to put in it these days- once upon a time it was fronted by one of the UK's leading film critics- Barry Norman and was much respected and its reviews influential, now they shove it on last thing at night (12.05 on BBC Scotland!) and its fronted by a light entertainment presenter!
But I will put up the link to watch BBC nearer the time for those who want to watch it anyway.

by Eldorion Wed Dec 11, 2013 4:59 pm

I wonder what Mark Kermode thinks of The Hobbit. He's often entertainingly crabbit about blockbusters. Razz

Pettytyrant101 wrote:Never mind the weird guy, who if I had kids would be one of the last people Id let them near, where is Norcs review?!!

What's that supposed to mean? Suspect

by Pettytyrant101 Wed Dec 11, 2013 5:03 pm

That if he lived on my street he looks like the sort youd warn the kids to keep away from his house- although I am sure for legal reasons he is a lovely man with not a single suspicious thing about him or a black mark to his name- I tend to find most kids tv presenters suspicious these days- blame the BBC for ruining my childhood by seemingly only hiring dodgy folks!!!

There is Kermode vid where he does a mathematical count of words per page to length of films- sadly its not as entertaining as it sounds and is meaningless- he concludes PJ gives every word in the book 3secs screen time- but fails to mention most of the the film has nothing to do with any of the words in the book. Mad

by Eldorion Wed Dec 11, 2013 5:07 pm

Well fortunately Mr Rogers never worked for the BBC.

Did Kermode do a regular review of AUJ as well?

by Pettytyrant101 Wed Dec 11, 2013 5:11 pm

No, not yet- he reviews films officially for the BBC still (radio programme) so its unlikely he will be allowed to before tonights review on the BBC's flagship film show Film2013 (why they gave the review job to a light entertainment presenter and not to Kermode who they already had on their books anyway is one of the great mysterious of the BBC)

by Pettytyrant101 Wed Dec 11, 2013 5:26 pm

Revision to the review time for DOS on Film2013- I was looking at the air time on BBC Scotland, its an hour earlier on BBC London (which is the version the links use I believe) so thats 11.05pm GMT (which is 12.05am in Fjordianland and the rest of you can work it out yourselves!)

by Eldorion Wed Dec 11, 2013 5:33 pm

James Berardinelli of Reelviews has one of the more on-point reviews I've seen so far. Plus he seems to know the book better than most.

http://www.reelviews.net/php_review_template.php?identifier=2701

...The Desolation of Smaug often looks and feels more like a video game than a motion picture. There are things to like about the second Hobbit film - the director's vision of Middle Earth is as beguiling as ever - but the bloating that was a problem with An Unexpected Journey is an even bigger issue here.

The Desolation of Smaug is too long and too visually busy to be loved by any but a die-hard fan. Purists - those who treat Tolkien's written word with Biblical reverence - may be horrified. A lot of the running around that consumes the running time bears no resemblance to anything in the books. Although Jackson doesn't change the core story, he treats it like an outline. Less than 50% of what's on screen during the course of The Desolation of Smaug comes from The Hobbit. The rest is culled from Tolkien's notes and Jackson's imagination.

He also describes the climactic fight with Smaug as being a full 30 minutes in length, a number I've seen at several different sites now.

by bungobaggins Wed Dec 11, 2013 6:25 pm

RT posts its first "consensus" for DOS.

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/the_hobbit_the_desolation_of_smaug/

While still slightly hamstrung by "middle chapter" narrative problems and its formidable length, The Desolation of Smaug represents a more confident, exciting second chapter for the Hobbit series.

This will change once more reviews are posted (unless all the reviews say the same thing).

by Pettytyrant101 Wed Dec 11, 2013 10:53 pm

Just a heads up for anyone wanting to watch the BBC review of DOS it starts on BBC 1 in about ten minutes (11.05GMT)

by Pettytyrant101 Wed Dec 11, 2013 11:19 pm

1 Tolkien fan who hated it- the daytime tv presenter that hosts it gushed over it and called it 'tremendous' third guy was on the fence more, thought it was great spectacle but called it '200million dollar fan fiction'.

by Mrs Figg Wed Dec 11, 2013 11:20 pm

''more Bilbo and less titting around with random Elves''

well she summed it up nicely.