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Re: Critics review 'Desolation of Smaug' | POSSIBLE SPOILERS
Crazy Eyes definitely had the best theme/end credits song.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRvpGGc9Jv8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRvpGGc9Jv8
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- It was a good scene, though I kind of wish that they hadn't made Pennsyltucky totally loony. But I'm definitely looking forward to the second season, more than I imagine I'll be looking forward to TABA.
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http://www.slantmagazine.com/film/review/the-hobbit-the-desolation-of-smaug
wha...?In An Unexpected Journey, criticisms of Jackson's choice to vastly extend Tolkien's lean Lord of the Rings precursor were largely dispelled, as the narrative filling-out didn't feel labored, as many feared, but naturalistic. In The Desolation of Smaug (or in its first half, at least), Jackson serves up something else entirely: a lightning-paced, nuance-deprived succession of busy set pieces, many of them exasperating in their breathless insistence on pandering to the blockbuster crowd.
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I am looking forward to season 2.Eldorion wrote:Crazy Eyes definitely had the best theme/end credits song.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRvpGGc9Jv8
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It was a good scene, though I kind of wish that they hadn't made Pennsyltucky totally loony. But I'm definitely looking forward to the second season, more than I imagine I'll be looking forward to TABA.
It's amazing how good story can trump visual effects and spectacle.
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In An Unexpected Journey, criticisms of Jackson's choice to vastly extend Tolkien's lean Lord of the Rings precursor were largely dispelled, as the narrative filling-out didn't feel labored, as many feared, but naturalistic.
It does sound, based on some of the specific scenes we've heard of so far, that PJ took the trunk-surfing scene as his jumping-off point and then decided to top it.But he abandons so much restraint in this film that Legolas slaying a giant elephant in The Return of the King, and then playfully surfing down its trunk to triumphant safety, feels like a quaint and distant memory.
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Well. I guess with the amount of money these blockbusters can rake in someone had to see that as a positive thing.Jackson serves up something else entirely: a lightning-paced, nuance-deprived succession of busy set pieces, many of them exasperating in their breathless insistence on pandering to the blockbuster crowd.
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Eldorion wrote:In An Unexpected Journey, criticisms of Jackson's choice to vastly extend Tolkien's lean Lord of the Rings precursor were largely dispelled, as the narrative filling-out didn't feel labored, as many feared, but naturalistic.
Exactly. I hate when reviewers take this haughty, subjective tone.
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Yeah, seems contradictory.bungobaggins wrote:http://www.slantmagazine.com/film/review/the-hobbit-the-desolation-of-smaugwha...?In An Unexpected Journey, criticisms of Jackson's choice to vastly extend Tolkien's lean Lord of the Rings precursor were largely dispelled, as the narrative filling-out didn't feel labored, as many feared, but naturalistic. In The Desolation of Smaug (or in its first half, at least), Jackson serves up something else entirely: a lightning-paced, nuance-deprived succession of busy set pieces, many of them exasperating in their breathless insistence on pandering to the blockbuster crowd.
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Well, he did say the narrative filling out felt naturalistic.
I should perhaps have kept that part in the quote as well.
I should perhaps have kept that part in the quote as well.
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He said that the added material in AUJ felt naturalistic (which I disagree with). But at the end of his review he calls DOS the weakest Middle-earth movie so far.Bluebottle wrote:Well, he did say the narrative filling out felt naturalistic.
I should perhaps have kept that part in the quote as well.
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They're paid to offer their opinion about movies, so of course it's going to be subjective. And I didn't think the review was haughty.Radaghast wrote:Exactly. I hate when reviewers take this haughty, subjective tone.
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Worse than AUJ?
Should perhaps have taken the time to look at the whole thing.
Should perhaps have taken the time to look at the whole thing.
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Fair enough.Bluebottle wrote:Well, he did say the narrative filling out felt naturalistic.
I should perhaps have kept that part in the quote as well.
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So far it seems to me that most reviewers who have compared DOS to AUJ have said that DOS was more action-packed and faster-paced. They just disagree on whether that's an improvement or not.Bluebottle wrote:Worse than AUJ?
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The one review I'm really looking forward to.
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Perhaps not, and, sure, they can express their opinion of the movie, but such a statement basically seems highly presumptive to me, at the least. "You people who feared the invented parts wouldn't fit, don't worry about it, it's cool. It's naturalistic"Eldorion wrote:They're paid to offer their opinion about movies, so of course it's going to be subjective. And I didn't think the review was haughty.Radaghast wrote:Exactly. I hate when reviewers take this haughty, subjective tone.
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Definitely. I enjoyed their AUJ review too.bungobaggins wrote:The one review I'm really looking forward to.
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Just read the last three pages literally screaming into my pillow. The epitome of female oppression in film is making her dependent on a male character. For ONCE, can't there be a strong female character who doesn't fall in love with a man, or at the very least doesn't base her decisions off of him? There's a theorist named Adrienne Rich who says that compulsory heterosexuality is an oppressive apparatus that keeps women under the thumb of men. She argues that lesbians are able to escape that apparatus because they don't depend on men at all but each other, much like in Orange. It was so refreshing watching that show because it was women interacting with women against men and the penitentiary that is oppressing them. If that sappy sad excuse of feminine energy is Boyens interpretation of it, then she needs a serious slap in the face. A WOMAN IS CAPABLE OF DOING MORE THINGS THAN FALLING IN LOVE. They go to great lengths to show that Tauriel isn't a typical female character only to make her act like one when the plot demands it. It's RIDICULOUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I actually can't stand it!!!!!!!!!! The weird, platonic relationship between her and Leggy would have been fine, because she's not pining for him (at least I don't think so...). With Kili, it's just STUPID!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm sorry Phillipa Bosoms, but feminine energy is not synonymous with ROMANCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!! A deeply buried part of me was kind of looking forward to her being added to the film as a minor character, but that little flicker of excitement has been doused by a tidal wave anguish and disappointment.
THIS MAKES ME SO CRABBIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm sorry Phillipa Bosoms, but feminine energy is not synonymous with ROMANCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!! A deeply buried part of me was kind of looking forward to her being added to the film as a minor character, but that little flicker of excitement has been doused by a tidal wave anguish and disappointment.
THIS MAKES ME SO CRABBIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Like I said, I disagree with that statement, but they're hardly alone in it.Radaghast wrote:Perhaps not, and, sure, they can express their opinion of the movie, but such a statement basically seems highly presumptive to me, at the least. "You people who feared the invented parts wouldn't fit, don't worry about it, it's cool. It's naturalistic"
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Definitely. :DI enjoyed their AUJ review too.
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Damn, now that is some crabibt, Queen Tin! Everyone is making a play for the Most Crabbit Award now, it seems.
Not to get too off-topic, but there was a lot of "women vs. women" stuff in Orange is the New Black. I liked that their portrayal of lesbian relationships was decidedly un-sexy and just as dysfunctional as any of the hetero relationships in the show.Tinuviel wrote:There's a theorist named Adrienne Rich who says that compulsory heterosexuality is an oppressive apparatus that keeps women under the thumb of men. She argues that lesbians are able to escape that apparatus because they don't depend on men at all but each other, much like in Orange. It was so refreshing watching that show because it was women interacting with women against men and the penitentiary that is oppressing them.
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I am officially back on the Crabbit Wagon!Tinuviel wrote:THIS MAKES ME SO CRABBIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Does that mean you fell off the wagon last night?bungobaggins wrote:I am officially back on the Crabbit Wagon!
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Yeah, for about an hour or two before I went to bed.
Leave to good ol' Phillipa Buoyancy to get me back on the crabbit!
Leave to good ol' Phillipa Buoyancy to get me back on the crabbit!
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And here I was thinking I'd been making progress spreading positivity.
Although Boyens comments made me pretty crabbit too.
Although Boyens comments made me pretty crabbit too.
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