Re: The Desolation of Smaug pre-release thread [2] [SPOILERS]

[Pettytyrant101]

You might find with a flame haired eel wrangler from Bree and a potentially very crabbit and violent buckie fuelled Scothobbit with a fine head of ginger hair that such a comment can get you hunted down and pulped - here to help!

[bungobaggins]

Here are the snide remarks I made to myself while I watched the fan event.

Hobbit Live Event Thoughts:

Too much screaming.

Twitter feed: I hate these things.

I wish I could be excited and happy like all those other people.

Lilly's first words during the event: "Don't hate. Don't hate." Hmmmm. If you can't take the heat, get out of the movie.  

"She has threatened to kick the ass of anybody who doesn't like the character." - Wow, I see that we're really open for discussion. I'm sure she'll have a lot of "tough" questions later on.

Seriously Jackson, at least put some fucking flip-flops on. I don't want to see your smelly feet. Aren't there health codes against this sort of thing? They are in a public building aren't they? Jackson is just the definition of smug.  

Very good fans, right Peter? Yes. Good fans. You deserve a treat for being so loyal. Maybe even a pat on the head. They just eat up anything you throw at them.

Doesn't he wear any other clothes? Eww. He wore that exact same outfit for the other live event. Come on dude, at least try to present yourself well. Everyone else is dressed nicely.

Lot of awkward pauses in this as they try to get other things geared up. Wow, Martin doesn't sound very enthused. Probably glad he didn't have to be there. Wow he's reading off of a script. How heartfelt.

New blog.

"It's either a joy or a bad dream. I'm not actually sure which." Peter - Well for me it's a bad dream. lol

Okay, when they were talking about orcs following the company into Laketown I thought they meant like one or two scouts. Not like…a bunch.

Beautiful New Zealand landscape.

Spoiler:

So the dwarves are going to be fighting the spiders too? Adios Bilbo.

"Tolkien describes the Sylvan elves as "Less wise, more dangerous."" Can we have  a citation for that please?

"You like death? Then let me give it to you." Oh, my stars, that line is still in? Seriously?

More chase scenes? Oh great.

blog is over. What's next?

Twitter feed: "I NEED RICHARD'S VOICE EVERY HOUR OF EVERY DAY I MEAN IS THAT TOO MUCH TO ASK FOR I THINK NOT" Jesus christ

First question for Lilly. "What was it like your first day on set." Oh my, hard hitting.

Lilly is much more attractive as a human than an elf. It's gotta be said.

Healing ritual? What. What is this. What movie is this? Where am I? Why is there a skeleton in my basement? Who's been fucking with my medicine?

Orlando: "Pete has one eye on the tolkien world." That eye must be covered by a patch.

"I'm a bit of a purist when it comes to Tolkien." - Armitage. wut.

A line from Thorin: "If this is to end in fire, we will all burn together." Oh wow. I'm so bat shit insane crazy that I'm going to take all of Rhovanion with me! Well, Thorin does go crazy, so...I'll give them points there.

Lee Pace's IRL hair is much better than Orlando's. Just sayin.

"The picture quality of the bloopers isn't going to be that great." - Jackson. That's not the point of bloopers. Bloopers never look great. Bloopers don't have to be in 3d 48fps 4k resolution. Good grief. Just give the fans the bloopers.

Anderson takes off his shoes. NOOOOOOOO!

Final (more serious) thoughts on the live event:

Overall this was much better than the live event in March, mostly because there was more than just Peter and Jed talking back and forth awkwardly. The questions were better too (and there were more of them), and having more people involved and making the whole thing international was a nice touch. Jackson knows how to keep his zealous fans happy, and how to bring them into the film making process. This is something that I really haven't seen before in a director, or any other franchise. Sure some videos release vlog type things similar to what they've been doing for The Hobbit, but the vlogs for TH seem to bring the fans in more. They feel personal, and I really think Jackson wants the fans to feel like they're part of the experience (because it builds strong loyalty to a brand, trust me, he knows this). So, overall, much improved over the last live event, but it didn't make me feel any better about the movie.

[bungobaggins]

You might find with a flame haired eel wrangler from Bree and a potentially very crabbit and violent buckie fuelled Scothobbit with a fine head of ginger hair that such a comment can get you hunted down and pulped - here to help!

Petty, I too have red hair.

Spoiler:

[Pettytyrant101]

Ive always embraced being red headed (its a boon working in the care biz as little old ladies love it) and my attitude with those who think it necessary to point it out all the time in some derisory fashion, say as I am walking by in the street, is to hit them very hard until they stop or are no longer recognisable. Has worked like a treat so far  


As to your summing up- you had several thoughts close to my own comments and thoughts on viewing it.

Its all good PR but only if you've already bought into Pj's 'vision'.
I think it might be too late for that to happen to most of us now.

[bungobaggins]

The crabbit has consumed me.

[Pettytyrant101]

Use it Bungo, use it for good  

[halfwise]

I'm a red-head, with green eyes. People keep trying to call me blonde and blue-eyed.  

Figgy is one of us.   She should be summoned.

[bungobaggins]

So many red-heads on Forumshire. I am surprised.  

[halfwise]

Whaddya expect? It's a home for creative misfits.

[Tinuviel]

I took a nap earlier so I  could watch it attentively. Slept through it.
Some thoughts:
1. PJ still can't speak coherently. When trying to explain why the Bofur scene was removed he couldn't formulate a practical reason other than that it wasn't important so he stammered and rambled for a good twenty seconds
2. Evangeline Lily is Liv Tyler's long lost twin
3. Thrandy gets naked and into a tub?????????  
4. Tauriel's line delivery is... bad.
5. The fact the PJ blatantly admitted that he doesn't know where the Cat and the Moon song came from is too disrespectful and smug for me to believe that it actually happened
6. He said Schmaug, again.
7. I love Orlando and Lee
8. Richard Armitage needs to read the book
9. It looks like a pretty good FILM, especially in comparison to AUJ. I'm excited to see it as a sequel, not as an adaptation. Hell, we know that it's not, so I'm just going to act like it's not.
10. Why were PJ's pasty white feet exposed?

Ed Sheeran is FANTASTIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I really enjoy two of his songs, one of them was a hit last year called "the A-Team" and he has another one called "Lego House." He a fantastic new artist, I'm really happy about this!!!!!!!!!!!!


Also, the Cat and the Moon song was sung in LOTR Musical, much better IMO, than Bofur.

[Tinuviel]

Also!
I personally disagree with what PJ said about characters being the driving force of films where in the book it was the storyteller doing so. I find that completely false. If you want to have a good story, you need to have characters capable of carrying it. The characters are the ones making the decisions, at least they should be. I believe that the quote in my signature explains it enough. Tolkien created characters that told the story in a certain way, he didn't do much of the story telling. Of course, he made his presence known in the Hobbit a few times, but it's a children's story, so it kind of needs some outside guidance. And anyway, Bilbo is the main mover of the story, not Tolkien. I think PJ didn't really know what he was talking about when he made that comment. It's true too that films are told by the characters, but it's also free to be told through images, sounds, and music. You can have good characters in a shit film, and bad characters in a good film.

[Pettytyrant101]

Well that version of the song is certainly lively enough, but cant say I approve of the wholesale rewritting of the lyrics- must be a decent version with the proper lyrics out there somewhere.

[bungobaggins]

Listen to the closing track of DOS, "I See Fire" by Ed Sheeran, here.

http://www.alterthepress.com/2013/11/ed-sheeran-releases-new-song-i-see-fire.html

[bungobaggins]

After my first listening, I gotta say, I liked it.

[Forest Shepherd]

It was good. It wasn't Middle-Earth. But it was good. It's going to piss me off though, as the song quotes the "We shall all burn together" melodrama Thorin espouses.

[bungobaggins]

The "We shall all burn together" seems to work much better as a song lyric than dialogue.

[Norc]

wow.. six new pages to catch up O_O

[Norc]

The trailer has been uploaded on its own now for easier viewing/sharing.

i loooooove this trailer!! shows ofcourse waaay too much but omfg!! i can't waaaait!

[bungobaggins]

found it on youtube.  Gawd the scrolling comments are ridiculous.

It's YouTube.  The only other comments section on the Internet that compares is Yahoo! Answers.

[bungobaggins]

DOS Special Edition Soundtrack List

Disc 1
1. The Quest for Erebor
2. Wilderland
3. A Necromancer
4. Queer Lodgings The House of Beorn
5. Mirkwood
6. Flies and Spiders
7. The Woodland Realm
8. Feast of Starlight
9. Barrels Out of Bond
10. The Forest River
11. Bard, A Man of Lake-town
12. The High Fells
13. The Nature of Evil
14. Protector of the Common Folk

Disc 2
1. Thrice Welcome
2. Girion, Lord of Dale
3. Durin's Folk
4. In the Shadow of the Mountain
5. A Spell of Concealment
6. On the Doorstep
7. The Courage of Hobbits
8. Inside Information
9. Kingsfoil
10. A Liar and a Thief
11. The Hunters
12. Smaug
13. My Armor is Iron
14. I See Fire
15. Beyond the Forest

[Lancebloke]

Disc 2 - track 9...... hmm.

[Mrs Figg]

So many red-heads on Forumshire. I am surprised.  

it said 'Strawberry Blonde' on the packet  

 

[Mrs Figg]

what struck me most was the truly awkward and stilted Martin Freeman, he is a talented actor, so why didnt he pretend?

Lily is much better looking in real life, that Tauriel wig is horrible. Her dialogue is corny, 'You like Death'? bet the orc was embarrassed.

[Pettytyrant101]

Yeah Martin really seemed like someone who didnt want to be doing that particular bit f PR- I dont know if thats because he didnt enjoy his part or if he was just buggered from doing other stuff or jet lagged or something, but it wasnt exactly enthusiastic and even PJ and Co had to make a comment explaining it afterwards about how they put him through it. Not a great sign.

[Norc]

when i've seen the fan event and everything, i'll give my thoughts on how freeman is..