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Re: Doctor Who [2]
by Pettytyrant101 Sun Aug 05, 2012 8:21 pm
So glad you enjoyed it Eldo- it is a classic episode of NuWho.
And Carey Mulligan is superb in it (and ridiculously cure).
Moffat gets Who to a tee- he knows the scariest suff to kids is stuff they see all the time in their world- whether thats statues ir smething as simple as a crack in your bedroom wall. He gets how kids can make the mundane into sheer terror and then pokes it with a stick. And its just as effective on the adults because it reawkwns how we use to see the world. WHo has always done that but Moffat is the exempler of it.
May I also suggest the 9th Doctor two parter- The Empty Child/The Doctor Dances (series 1 NuWho)- Moffats first contribution to Nuwho.
And Carey Mulligan is superb in it (and ridiculously cure).
Moffat gets Who to a tee- he knows the scariest suff to kids is stuff they see all the time in their world- whether thats statues ir smething as simple as a crack in your bedroom wall. He gets how kids can make the mundane into sheer terror and then pokes it with a stick. And its just as effective on the adults because it reawkwns how we use to see the world. WHo has always done that but Moffat is the exempler of it.
May I also suggest the 9th Doctor two parter- The Empty Child/The Doctor Dances (series 1 NuWho)- Moffats first contribution to Nuwho.
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by Eldorion Sun Aug 05, 2012 8:24 pm
I'll take a look at that, and maybe also some Eleventh Doctor stuff, next time I watch Who. 
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Re: Doctor Who [2]
by Pettytyrant101 Sun Aug 05, 2012 8:27 pm
Soon I trust Eldo, soon. For your own good obviously.
Just remember with the 11th Doctor stuff its more important to watch in order and ideally watch them all- series 5 and 6 are much more story arc orientated than 1-4.
(there are story arc elements in 1-4 but they are confined to a few episodes a series-so long as you see those you wont be lost- with 11 the arc permeates the series, so even when an episode isnt directly about it it is still about the arc themes).
Just remember with the 11th Doctor stuff its more important to watch in order and ideally watch them all- series 5 and 6 are much more story arc orientated than 1-4.
(there are story arc elements in 1-4 but they are confined to a few episodes a series-so long as you see those you wont be lost- with 11 the arc permeates the series, so even when an episode isnt directly about it it is still about the arc themes).
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by Eldorion Sun Aug 05, 2012 8:29 pm
Thanks, I'll have to keep that in mind. I might give The Eleventh Hour a rewatch or I might jump in at episode two since I remember the first episode pretty well.
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by Pettytyrant101 Sun Aug 05, 2012 8:34 pm
I'd just start at the Beast Below then Eldo- the 2nd episode- no point rewatching Who when there is so much new Who yet to be watched!
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Re: Doctor Who [2]
by Amarië Sun Aug 05, 2012 8:40 pm
Hurry up and watch, Eldo! I and (,I dare to assume and include,) Figgy are very interesting in YOUR opinion of Amy Pond.
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Re: Doctor Who [2]
by Norc Sun Aug 05, 2012 10:13 pm
Pettytyrant101 wrote:Where have you watched to Norc? Have you watched the series 5 xmas episode? Or are you onto series 6? Eldo- you got round to Blink yet?
Anyone needing links to episodes?
I am where I left. Finished season 5, no xmas episodes and no extra ones.
kean to start again soon, but I am busy with a string camp thing and relatives being here. and school starts soon :S I'll see if I can plough through them at a normal pace now. one or two a week 
just get me some links and must when it comes to the specials I've been away for a birthday celebrations so I haven't cought up with this who thread yet. but gimme some links please ;D
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Re: Doctor Who [2]
by Norc Sun Aug 05, 2012 10:19 pm
Pettytyrant101 wrote:normally Heavy etal covers of Who music dont cut the mustard- but this, this is just amazing.A medley of the main theme and I am the Doctor- it just gets better and better as it goes on- hats off to great guitar skills sir!
love it love it!!!!!!!!!! <3 <3
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Re: Doctor Who [2]
by Ally Sun Aug 05, 2012 10:23 pm
The BBC has already started running the trailers for the new season and I suddenly remembered why Doctor Who is my fav program of all time
Hope its not as gut wrenchinly sad as the last episode tho (even though it was happy in the end
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by Pettytyrant101 Sun Aug 05, 2012 10:32 pm
Norc- heres the links you need- Ill give you three- the xmas ep and 1 and 2nd ep of series 6. That should give you something for this week.
A Christmas Carol (xmas Who is a slightly different beast- firstly its always chrissmy so try to get in the xmas spirit for it- wear a santa hat or something! And secondly it has to appeal to an audience that may not regularly watch Who - as its prime time xmas day tv)
http://vimeo.com/26190089
Series 6
The Impossible Astronaut
Day of the Moon (couldnt find it one chunk, sorry)
A Christmas Carol (xmas Who is a slightly different beast- firstly its always chrissmy so try to get in the xmas spirit for it- wear a santa hat or something! And secondly it has to appeal to an audience that may not regularly watch Who - as its prime time xmas day tv)
http://vimeo.com/26190089
Series 6
The Impossible Astronaut
Day of the Moon (couldnt find it one chunk, sorry)
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Re: Doctor Who [2]
by Eldorion Sun Aug 05, 2012 11:06 pm
Amarië wrote:Hurry up and watch, Eldo! I and (,I dare to assume and include,) Figgy are very interesting in YOUR opinion of Amy Pond.
She's has no acting talent and the only reason people like Petty are fans of her is because they think she's hot! And her face looks like poop!
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by Pettytyrant101 Sun Aug 05, 2012 11:11 pm
Its a character created by Moffat with an actress choosen by Moffat to play her- I feel I need not have to say anything more in her defense.
And if after a fair run (say all of series 5) you were to state such a view of her Eldo- then its fighting talk!
And if after a fair run (say all of series 5) you were to state such a view of her Eldo- then its fighting talk!
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by Eldorion Sun Aug 05, 2012 11:13 pm
I liked her well enough from the single episode I've seen her in so far, but I remember being a bit taken aback by how many arguments you've gotten into with the ladies about her.
...My attempt at a joke was probably ill-advised, all things considered.
...My attempt at a joke was probably ill-advised, all things considered.
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by Pettytyrant101 Sun Aug 05, 2012 11:15 pm
Well in fairness really only a lady.
I believe Norc likes Amy and Kafria. Ally doesn't seem to mind her.
Amarie is a bit on the fence I believe, although I may be wrong about that.
I believe Norc likes Amy and Kafria. Ally doesn't seem to mind her.
Amarie is a bit on the fence I believe, although I may be wrong about that.
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Re: Doctor Who [2]
by Norc Sun Aug 05, 2012 11:28 pm
I think Amy is al right, she is not horrible as some suggest. I kind of like her, yes. But I think Rose and Donna were better (and those are the only companions I know).
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Re: Doctor Who [2]
by Pettytyrant101 Mon Aug 06, 2012 12:17 am
I think Amy is a devisive character.
She is not as sympathetic as Rose or Donna. She has a lot of walls she has put up over the years and her life is, well very complicated, thanks to the meddling of the Doctor.
There is a distance between her and the audience previous companions did not have.
In the past the companion only served three real functions. To ask all the questions, get in trouble, and to be the attachment to the audience in the scene.
Amy still fulfills the first two but not the third. She is as distant in her own way from the viewer as the Doctor is.
In Moffats Who Rory is the audience way in, not Amy.
I think that is a large part of why I like her and others do not.
I find critiscms of her performance harder to take. I just watched most of series 5 again and there is stuff in her perfomrance that only really becomes evident in light of the whole arc of series 5 and 6. There is stuff going on there that is suprising subtle and whose subtlies are not necessary evident on a first watch because they pertain to things the viewer does not yet know.
She is not as sympathetic as Rose or Donna. She has a lot of walls she has put up over the years and her life is, well very complicated, thanks to the meddling of the Doctor.
There is a distance between her and the audience previous companions did not have.
In the past the companion only served three real functions. To ask all the questions, get in trouble, and to be the attachment to the audience in the scene.
Amy still fulfills the first two but not the third. She is as distant in her own way from the viewer as the Doctor is.
In Moffats Who Rory is the audience way in, not Amy.
I think that is a large part of why I like her and others do not.
I find critiscms of her performance harder to take. I just watched most of series 5 again and there is stuff in her perfomrance that only really becomes evident in light of the whole arc of series 5 and 6. There is stuff going on there that is suprising subtle and whose subtlies are not necessary evident on a first watch because they pertain to things the viewer does not yet know.
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Re: Doctor Who [2]
by Norc Mon Aug 06, 2012 12:20 am
I kind of agree with you Petty (OMG! I agree with you )
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by Pettytyrant101 Mon Aug 06, 2012 1:07 am
The special actor announcement has been made! And it is for the xmas special- Richard E Grant.
(Who trivia- Grant was the official 9th Doctor on a Who radio series before NUwho was announced and launched with Eccleston as the 9th)
(Who trivia- Grant was the official 9th Doctor on a Who radio series before NUwho was announced and launched with Eccleston as the 9th)
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by Ally Mon Aug 06, 2012 1:28 am
Well, what d'ya know? I HAVE heard of Richard E. Grant. Go me!
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by Pettytyrant101 Mon Aug 06, 2012 2:50 am
Further thought on Amy-
Series 5
Series 5
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- Previous companions have been the audience in the story, Amy is very much the story.
She is not just anyone, not just some random person who bumps into the Doctor and gets swept along.
From the moment the Doctor crash lands in her backgarden she is basically screwed. She becomes the plot from that moment on. (As the Doctor says of her "Its all about you.").
She is a normal little girl. She lives in a big house with her parents and her aunt. But in timeywimey fashion a crack in time, which only happens as a result of the Alliance of Evil taking a pshyic imprint from her when she is older because they know she will be a companion in the future) changes Amy's life.
Now she has no parents and the duck pond has no ducks and there is a crack in space and time in her bedroom wall which has been "eating away at her life for a very long time now" she also has all of space and time pouring into her head every night as she sleeps.
In the finale the Doctor asks her "Doesn't it bother you that your life doesn't make sense?"
And thats part of the distance there is with Amy right from the start- something is off right from the first episode- we dont find out what it is until the end of the series but its always there in her perfomance and in the script in the early episodes- Amy never made sense in the first place. Not even in the 11th Hour. She is an anomaly.
Amy's fractured life, having a family then not having one then having one again and remembering both lives makes her different from other companions.
Other companions could become the focus of the plot for an episode or two- Amy is the plot for two series. She is intrinsically different.
Rory on the other hand is very much the audicience viewpoint- he is the one who expresses how ridiculous things are, or how dangerous.
And whilst Amy has an idolised childs eye view of the Doctor Rory sees him for what he is, "You make it so people don't want to let you down...You have no idea how dangerous you make people to themselves when you are around."
Rory is the balance and the audiences take on events.
I think people had got used to the idea of the companion being the traditional role. Typical of Moffat he threw that out the window.
He has said in interviews that for him the show is not really about the Doctor, its about the companions who interact with him. That way the Doctor keeps his enigmatic status deserving of the title Doctor Who?
Amy exemplifies Moffats thinking- series 5 and 6 are the story of Amy.
She is the plot not the audiences anchor. And I can appreciate that is not to everyones tastes but I find it fresh and interesting.
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by Pettytyrant101 Mon Aug 06, 2012 1:01 pm
Extended version of the 'First Question' vid including all 11 regenerations of the Doctor. Nicely done vid. (And an excellent intro to the shows concepts for any who might still not be sure what its all about)
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Re: Doctor Who [2]
by Pettytyrant101 Mon Aug 06, 2012 4:22 pm
The perils of being a theatre actor Norc- besides in the UK you dont count as a proper actor until youve dragged up for a part.
Not sure about bloke on the left but the woman looks like Jane Horrocks- well known theatre and tv actress of some renown- so must have been something good whatever it was.
Not sure about bloke on the left but the woman looks like Jane Horrocks- well known theatre and tv actress of some renown- so must have been something good whatever it was.
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Re: Doctor Who [2]
by Amarië Mon Aug 06, 2012 7:22 pm
Eldorion wrote:Amarië wrote:Hurry up and watch, Eldo! I and (,I dare to assume and include,) Figgy are very interesting in YOUR opinion of Amy Pond.
She's has no acting talent and the only reason people like Petty are fans of her is because they think she's hot! And her face looks like poop!
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