Re: The Bigger, Badder, Even More Serious Thread

[Pettytyrant101]

[Mrs Figg]

[Mrs Figg]

Listening to Our beloved Leader Grime style is quite something.

[Mrs Figg]

"man don't want to pay for congestion"

[Mrs Figg]

[Mrs Figg]

[Pettytyrant101]

{{ May I present the Prime Miniter of Great Britain and NI making an important address to the CBI business group-}}

[Mrs Figg]

FFS! what a clown, he even managed to lie about Peppa Pig and the BBC.

[Pettytyrant101]

{{ This very close to actual journalism from Pie. }}

[Mrs Figg]

yeah I watched that. Every time I see Ed Miliband I imagine Wallace and Gromit.

[halfwise]

An associate of mine made a valid point. It may be hard to get people to believe or care about climate change and loss of ecosystem, but it's much easier to get them to believe we will run out of fossil fuel, because that's irrefutable. If we focus on that, it will go a long ways towards addressing global warming. So start with an easier battle.

[Mrs Figg]

[Pettytyrant101]

{{{ As a political observer I will be really curious how Boris gets himself out of this one. He has survived a few scandals and blunders so far, but its the constant drip drip of scandal that might do for him. Tory leaders are rarely changed by the public or at elections, they nearly all go out with a knife in the back from their own side, even those still winning majorities at elections like Thatcher.
Theres an old saying in democratic politics that its not a sudden tsunami that does for leaders, its the slow rise of the tide until they drown. Boris at this point seems to be barely keeping his chin above the water line.}}

[Mrs Figg]

Every day, its a new lie or scandal. Its bonkers.

[Mrs Figg]

some Christmas

[azriel]

oh yes. As always our spokesman for the people has got his finger on the pulse

[Pettytyrant101]

{{ looking like might be a massive upset in the North Shropshire by-election. Its a Tory seat, a Tory safe seat its voted Tory for as long as there has been democracy. At the last election, the Tories won with a majority of almost 23,000. And it looks like the Lib-dems just nicked it, its not confirmed yet but they sound confident and are even claiming its a solid win not even a marginal one.
If so, this is massive blow to Boris. Tories will back a PM so far, and usually the line is when it looks like their own seats might be in danger. If Boris loses this seat, an utterly solid Tory seat, he's in real shit. Forget all the scandals and lies, this is what will bring the long knives out for him.


update- Lib Dems have taken the seat by 5000 votes. Shocking result for the Tories. }}

[Mrs Figg]

fantastic result.

[Pettytyrant101]

{{ Lord Frost has resigned! I did not see that one coming I admit.
For those who dont know Frost was the UK's Chief Negotiator with the EU over Brexit- he negotiated Brexit. Granted he was terrible. I mean he negotiated the NI Protocol then as soon as we left the EU declared his own treaty as the worst treaty ever negotiated and has since then been trying to force the EU into a complete renegotiation of it.
As of right now no one has been appointed to replace him but the long knives are are now drawn in the Tory ranks I think and Boris will have to watch his back. That's three big blows in short succession- the xmas parties scandals (then man appointed to investigate them had to resign as it turned out he had held one at his own office- you couldnt make it up), 99 of his own MP's voting against him leaving him relying on Labour votes and losing a Tory safe seat in the by-election. All in one week.

Boris track record to this point as PM has been to make huge moves with a massive element of risk and winner takes all to them. It will be interesting to see what he does now he's being backed into a corner by his own side.}}

[Pettytyrant101]

{{ Liz Truss has been appointed to replace Frost- thats quite the brief she has- she is the Foreign Office minister, the Minister for Women's Rights, and now also the Chief Brexit negotiator. A woman of no substance however. She was a remainer right up till it went the other way, now she says if she could vote again she'd vote for Brexit. So has all the political conviction of a weather vane waiting to be blown by the political winds. }}

[Mrs Figg]

Liz Truss, a vapid chocolate teapot pretending to be the Iron Lady. Its like they went to a swingers club in Surrey and picked her car keys out of the pot and said "you'll do for Brexit minister". I give her a couple of months before Little Miss Dunning Kruger cocks it up disastrously either with Macron or NI.

[Pettytyrant101]

{{ I almost dont know where to start with whats going on with Boris and the Tories right now.
The short is for those not following Uk politics- Boris is hanging on by a very thin thread and may be forced out very shortly by his own side, assuming he isn't forced to resign first.

This all comes down to events during the height of Lockdowns last year. When people all over the Uk were isolated at home, cut off from loved ones, unable to be with family who were dying in hospitals, or to attend funerals for those lost, the Tories were having gatherings and parties in no 10.
First this was denied - it was a work event. Then it turned out there was food laid on and everyone was asked to bring a bottle -sounds like a party. Then it turned out when outside gathering, under their rules, was limited to no more than 3 households, they invited 100 people to their 'gathering'. Boris denied knowledge, said it would be looked into. Then photos emerged showing Boris and his wife were at the party he originally claimed he didn't know about.
Now Boris has had to come to the House, and pre-empting the opposition ripping him to shreds try to do damage limitation, it didn't help matters as all he did was effectively admit his guilt. Which means he lied to Parliament before. And doing that, misleading parliament, is according to the Ministerial Code (the latest version Boris wrote the introduction too!) a resigning situation.



Now the whole thing has been put to a Government enquiry- but if it hoped to whitewash this away I dont think it can anymore given all the information we already know - enough to force Boris to give his admission of guilt and apology. And if that report, as expected, finds the rules were breached then he is gone. And even possibly under criminal investigation, as breaching lockdown rules was an offence under the law, and plenty other ordinary folk found themselves with fines and the like for doing so.

On top of this the usual horrible Tories are going around trying to bolster support, chief among them Jacob Reece-Mog, but his defence of Boris has been an utter gift to the SNP.
One of the leading Tory figures calling on Boris to go is Douglas Ross, leader of the Scottish Conservatives. He and all the Scottish Tories are calling on Boris to go. Mogg's response to this on tv has been to call Ross a 'lightweight figure' in the party and dismiss the Scottish Tories as of no importance. And adding to this Gove made the bizarre statement that Ross was in Elgin while Boris the leader was in London, as if to say what would Ross know being away up in Scotland?

Cant find it on youtube but you can watch it on the BBC Scotland politics page-

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-59978733

Its gold for the Scottish opposition party as English and Scottish Tories turn on one and another.
But it does truthfully show, in the open, the sheer disdain and dismissiveness with which the Tory party views Scotland, and even their own Scottish MP's. }}

[Pettytyrant101]

{{ Hasn't taken long for the SNP to make political use of the blatant open goal from Mogg. Its FMQ's Questions today which led to this exchange, reported on the BBC politics live stream-

'SNP MSP Audrey Nicoll asks if the "unmasked disdain" the Tory government has shown for their colleagues in Scotland makes it clear Scotland needs to become an independent country.
Nicola Sturgeon says even she is not as derogatory about Douglas Ross as his colleagues at Westminster, referring of course to the "lightweight" comment from Rees-Mogg.
The first minister says the Westminster cabinet has utter contempt for Scotland.
She says if Scotland becomes independent it will mean the country does not have to put up with being treated like something "on the sole of Westminster's shoe".'- BBC

This is a pure gift. One of the things which helped destroy Scottish Labour was when the then outgoing Scottish labour leader said the Westminster Labour party treated the Scottish party as a 'branch office'. Telling the voters you have no influence or power over where the real decisions are made and that your own side dont listen to you, is not a vote winner. And now Mogg has gifted Scottish opposition parties with the same and simultaneously undermined the Scottish Tory leader. }}

[Mrs Figg]

Its all going tits up. What got it for me was Johnson's arrogant smirking face. He actually had the brass neck to laugh in our faces. I hope he gets dumped asap.

[Pettytyrant101]