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Re: US General Election 2016
by Eldorion Thu May 05, 2016 6:09 pm
Perennial Libertarian candidate (and former GOP Governor) Gary Johnson makes his movie to pick up disaffected voters from both sides...
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Re: US General Election 2016
by bungobaggins Fri May 06, 2016 12:45 am
He's not serious about running for president.
He'll never get his forms filed on time.
He's a clown!
Voters will "come to their senses" by the end of the summer.
His ceiling of support is 30 percent.
He'll get bored and drop out before Iowa!
Voters will "come to their senses" by the end of the year.
His ceiling of support is 35 percent.
It's just stupid, poor, white people supporting him!
Coalescing around one candidate will block his path to the nomination.
His ceiling of support is 40 percent.
There will be a contested convention.
Wisconsin is his Waterloo!
His ceiling of support is 50 percent.
He only won in the northeast because he's from that region.
Indiana is his Waterloo!
He'll never get his forms filed on time.
He's a clown!
Voters will "come to their senses" by the end of the summer.
His ceiling of support is 30 percent.
He'll get bored and drop out before Iowa!
Voters will "come to their senses" by the end of the year.
His ceiling of support is 35 percent.
It's just stupid, poor, white people supporting him!
Coalescing around one candidate will block his path to the nomination.
His ceiling of support is 40 percent.
There will be a contested convention.
Wisconsin is his Waterloo!
His ceiling of support is 50 percent.
He only won in the northeast because he's from that region.
Indiana is his Waterloo!
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Re: US General Election 2016
by Bluebottle Fri May 06, 2016 1:30 am
Yes, Trump can most definitely fuck off. 
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Re: US General Election 2016
by Bluebottle Fri May 06, 2016 1:59 am
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Re: US General Election 2016
by Bluebottle Fri May 06, 2016 1:59 am
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Re: US General Election 2016
by Orwell Fri May 06, 2016 1:03 pm
bungobaggins wrote:
Not sure if anyone was personally attacking you, Bungo, unless maybe you see some folk not favouring or wanting Trump being a personal attack on you? Do you adore him that much that he is now you and you are him?
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Re: US General Election 2016
by halfwise Fri May 06, 2016 2:11 pm
I think he was just encapsulating Trump's triumphant feeling about the world right now.
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Re: US General Election 2016
by halfwise Fri May 06, 2016 2:23 pm
have to say I'm glad Trevor Noah has kept up the Trump pieces. I think other comics had already reached saturation and dropped the ball.
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Re: US General Election 2016
by Mrs Figg Fri May 06, 2016 7:45 pm
Eldorion wrote:Perennial Libertarian candidate (and former GOP Governor) Gary Johnson makes his movie to pick up disaffected voters from both sides...
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- I should hope not because in the UK Feeling the Johnson means something else.
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Re: US General Election 2016
by bungobaggins Fri May 06, 2016 8:25 pm
Orwell wrote:bungobaggins wrote:
Not sure if anyone was personally attacking you, Bungo, unless maybe you see some folk not favouring or wanting Trump being a personal attack on you? Do you adore him that much that he is now you and you are him?
That was a big F You to all the political pundits and wannabe wunderkinds (Nate Silver) who dismissed Trump outright and even then when he was gaining traction. Hence the paraphrased dismissals above the "F You."
You guys can (have) attack(ed) Trump all you want, I don't give a rip. What's more you can think little or nothing of me for supporting him and I couldn't give a fuck.
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Re: US General Election 2016
by David H Fri May 06, 2016 9:24 pm
Mrs Figg wrote:Eldorion wrote:Perennial Libertarian candidate (and former GOP Governor) Gary Johnson makes his movie to pick up disaffected voters from both sides...
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- Here too.
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Re: US General Election 2016
by Mrs Figg Fri May 06, 2016 11:40 pm
bungobaggins wrote:Orwell wrote:bungobaggins wrote:
Not sure if anyone was personally attacking you, Bungo, unless maybe you see some folk not favouring or wanting Trump being a personal attack on you? Do you adore him that much that he is now you and you are him?
That was a big F You to all the political pundits and wannabe wunderkinds (Nate Silver) who dismissed Trump outright and even then when he was gaining traction. Hence the paraphrased dismissals above the "F You."
You guys can (have) attack(ed) Trump all you want, I don't give a rip. What's more you can think little or nothing of me for supporting him and I couldn't give a fuck.
If you like him, you vote for him, So he's a plum with a funny hairdo, so what, if you dig him, you dig him.
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Re: US General Election 2016
by halfwise Sat May 07, 2016 3:11 pm
Despite all the math that shows he can't win a general election, he's defeated math before and may well again. The Queen may be the only way to stop him.
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Re: US General Election 2016
by halfwise Sun May 08, 2016 3:36 pm
Now that he's the presumptive nominee, Trump is already changing statements.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donald-trump-walks-back-tax-plan-negotiated/story?id=38959168
Unlike many people, I think leaders that are willing to change with circumstances is a good thing. Perhaps we will begin seeing more of the liberal Trump of his younger years. I think much of his current base would actually welcome that as well.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donald-trump-walks-back-tax-plan-negotiated/story?id=38959168
Unlike many people, I think leaders that are willing to change with circumstances is a good thing. Perhaps we will begin seeing more of the liberal Trump of his younger years. I think much of his current base would actually welcome that as well.
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Re: US General Election 2016
by David H Sun May 08, 2016 5:12 pm
halfwise wrote: Perhaps we will begin seeing more of the liberal Trump of his younger years.
You're right, by November he could actually end up running to the left of Hillary!
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Re: US General Election 2016
by halfwise Sun May 08, 2016 5:17 pm
I wouldn't put it past him.
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Re: US General Election 2016
by Pettytyrant101 Mon May 09, 2016 12:25 am
{{Not for the first time something Trump has said has me scratching my head as ot what he means by it.
According to Fox - 'his tax plan, which now includes a tax break for the country’s top wage-earners, would likely be different if he becomes president, considering it would likely need support from Democrats as well as Republicans on Capitol Hill.
"By the time it gets negotiated, it's going to be a different plan," the billionaire businessman said in a pre-taped interview that aired Sunday. "On my plan, (tax rates) are going down. But by the time it's negotiated, they'll go up."
What? Ok so right now he is promising Republican voters he will cut the tax rates, but he is also telling them that by the time the deal is done, they tax rates will actually go up? Admitting defeat before you even start negotiation doesn't seem very Trumpian.
Or is he saying it just to reassure democratic and independent voters- in which case it reads like he is saying one thing to get Republican votes, but whispering behind his hand to Democrats, 'but don't worry when I become President it'll actually be the complete opposite that happens.'
Can anyone help untangle what Trump is saying here? Or what audience its aimed at?
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According to Fox - 'his tax plan, which now includes a tax break for the country’s top wage-earners, would likely be different if he becomes president, considering it would likely need support from Democrats as well as Republicans on Capitol Hill.
"By the time it gets negotiated, it's going to be a different plan," the billionaire businessman said in a pre-taped interview that aired Sunday. "On my plan, (tax rates) are going down. But by the time it's negotiated, they'll go up."
What? Ok so right now he is promising Republican voters he will cut the tax rates, but he is also telling them that by the time the deal is done, they tax rates will actually go up? Admitting defeat before you even start negotiation doesn't seem very Trumpian.
Or is he saying it just to reassure democratic and independent voters- in which case it reads like he is saying one thing to get Republican votes, but whispering behind his hand to Democrats, 'but don't worry when I become President it'll actually be the complete opposite that happens.'
Can anyone help untangle what Trump is saying here? Or what audience its aimed at?
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Re: US General Election 2016
by halfwise Mon May 09, 2016 2:22 am
He's just going with what will work. Businessmen have to be pragmatic.
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Re: US General Election 2016
by Pettytyrant101 Mon May 09, 2016 11:46 am
Businessmen have to be pragmatic.- Halfy
Yes, but there is pragmatic and then there is telling everyone that you are going to tell them one thing but you really expect the result to be the opposite thing. That's not pragmatic its giving your hand away before you start, its conceding defeat before you negotiate a single word of it.
Should such thinking be aplied to all his economic statements?- 'Mexico will build the wall' (behind hand) 'no they wont we will!' 'We'll get the best deals with China and Russia' (behind hand) 'no we wont they will get better deals than us really'- how long does he survive if he u-turns on everything he has promised that got him this far?- and how can you trust he wont u-turn on those things when on such a major policy platform as cutting taxes or not he appears to be saying two things at once to two different audiences?}}}
Yes, but there is pragmatic and then there is telling everyone that you are going to tell them one thing but you really expect the result to be the opposite thing. That's not pragmatic its giving your hand away before you start, its conceding defeat before you negotiate a single word of it.
Should such thinking be aplied to all his economic statements?- 'Mexico will build the wall' (behind hand) 'no they wont we will!' 'We'll get the best deals with China and Russia' (behind hand) 'no we wont they will get better deals than us really'- how long does he survive if he u-turns on everything he has promised that got him this far?- and how can you trust he wont u-turn on those things when on such a major policy platform as cutting taxes or not he appears to be saying two things at once to two different audiences?}}}
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