Oddities, curiousities and strangness in history [2]

When so much is similar it's the differences that jump out.

haven't you stumbled across the ocean of literature about the Earth Mother Goddess being displaced, and warfare and whatnot being the result?- Halfy

{{Yes, indeed, the matter gets touched upon in a lot of archeology, but just as a thing that happened- just as the link above presents in that context- there was a shift from lunar female deities aspects to male solar ones- as if that explains it or why the solar dominated male ones were anti-women in a way the female religions never seem to have been inbuilt anti-men.
What I have never seen is a proper study of the why? What changed? Why go from lunar being predominant to solar being predominate? And why do all the solar ones have a built in anti-woman bias limiting their access to society in general?
And if it was because of agriculture and it emerging importance why the male slant, as most academics believe its more likely the inventors of it were female gatherers, not male hunting groups.
And why does there seem to be no contemporary writing on the mater or what happened to inform such a huge scale shift in societies? And why was it seemingly spread about cultures?  Such a change occurring within a society could be seen as a natural shift in social attitudes, but when it happens across several cultures in a very large region (all of the then 'known world') it must have wider roots than just that. }}}

Didn't the shift correspond roughly with the Aryan invasions? In that case a shift to a more war-based society makes sense.

{{The Aryan invasion theory is not generally accepted these days. And whilst I can see how a shift to a more military lifestyle could see the promotion of male attributes I don't see why that has to include the seeming systematic removal of the feminine from public life as well as writing in from the start laws and religious ideas which just happen to limit what women are allowed to do inmost important fields and in everday society. Nor why it should occur in more than one civilisation and culture at about the same time period}}

Remember how far back we are looking in history and how it compresses things. A few thousand years from now the whole rise and fall of the British Empire will look like a finger snap, and the huge change from largely patriarchal to more balanced western society (though still far to go) in the last 40 years will be a blink. I think the changes we are talking about spanned centuries, and with the rapidly shifting populations of the time a lot could happen.

I'll weigh in on this quickly. Based on David Graeber's "Debt: the first 5,000 years" (best book i've read this year!) i'd argue that the change came with the economics of civilization. When farmers, hunters and gatherers were in charge, the earth mother was dominant. once city-states got large enough that they needed to exploit surrounding neighbors for food, wood, and materials, the older people with direct ties to the land were conquered and became slaves/serfs/peasants, while armies and kings became dominant. Zeus and Ares taking the spotlight from Artemis, Athena, and Aphrodite.

That's just a quick shot. It's cranberry harvest and I'm only out of the bogs and online to check shipping records. Shouldn't be here at all really.... shhhhhhh.....

Okay, I ordered it.

I wasn't entirely sure where to place this but................

http://shareably.net/zeugma-ancient-greek-mosaics-unearthed/?utm_source=killpics&utm_medium=facebook&utm_campaign=unique

absolutely stunning !!!!!!

The Greek women look a bit more full-figured than we think of them, almost baroque. Poseidon seems to have a headlight on his chariot (and what's he doing in a chariot to begin with?)

He..got...fed up with getting wet ?? Thought a day on the beach would be nicer ?

I once read, cant remember where, that at one point males and females had equal strength when we were hunter gatherers until we invented farming and village settlements then females started to get weaker physically and it was basically game over for women. its all about upper body strength when it comes down to it. The hunter societies were female friendly worshipping earth mother, and moon, farming societies were male centric and sun worshippers. don't know whether this is bs or not.

Don't know about being weaker but, my mother always said I had my dad's strength I used to, at a very young age, move the heaviest furniture for her & do all sorts of heavy housework for my family, still can now but for myself these days. I do get treated as "the fairer sex" which can be nice but, I don't bow easily & still surprise the Tesco delivery man at my door by pilling up the bags of cat & dog food up one arm & toddling off down the hall without a flinch I never knew my dad but, I thank him for my strength at least. Ive also had to have mental & emotional strength also which, I think, is more powerfully draining. But, if I think I can do it, IL do it or at least have a go

7 mile bridge, Florida

Kjerag in Norway

Norways Atlantic Ocean road.........

New York City, 7000ft above

That's looking towards the south.

If you are flying into LaGuardia airport from the south, if you're lucky the wind will be coming from the south when you are sitting on the right. The plane will do a perfect circumnavigation of Manhattan as it maneuvers to approach the runway from the north.

This makes me very happy:

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/12/08/health/dinosaur-tail-trapped-in-amber-trnd/index.html?hl=1&noRedirect=1

Dinosaur feathers in amber!

halfwise wrote:This makes me very happy:

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/12/08/health/dinosaur-tail-trapped-in-amber-trnd/index.html?hl=1&noRedirect=1

Dinosaur feathers in amber!

SO COOL!!!!!!

Yeah that is SO cool!

{{{Just as well they eventually say it was actually a really small dinosaur- cause otherwise from the picture I was thinking 'bugger the dino. look at the size of that fucking ant!!! }}}

brilliant.  I wonder if large dinosaurs had feathers too. feathered T-Rex, can you imagine an enormous killer chicken on the loose?

Mrs Figg wrote: can you imagine an enormous killer chicken on the loose?

... doing the Bird of Paradise fan dance and looking at me? Thanks for the new nightmare!

Very cool, kinda glad it was such a small specimen with no blood preserved, not sure I like the idea of cloning dinos becoming a possibility.

but it would be way cool!