US General Election 2016

Pettytyrant101 wrote:{{{{
But it was his response to being pressed on what would happen if the army said they wouldn't do it which was the worst bit-

"I'm a leader. I've never had any problem leading people. If I say 'do it' they are going to do it. That's what leadership is all about......They won't refuse. They're not going to refuse me. Believe me."

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{{{{I think he's confusing "leadership" with "tyranny". Easy mistake to make really...}}}}

Cruz is currently ahead of Trump by almost double in Kansas (49% to 24.7% with almost half the votes counted). The wind may be changing for the Republicans.

{{{I think ditching the conservative conference thing at the last minute was a big mistake by Trump- but I think he reckoned if he had gone he would have got slaughtered in the Q&A section from a hard line conservative crowd- but its a loss/loss scenario for him, he doesn't look any better by not going either}}}

{{{{Trump has problems with Q&A's wherever he goes. His whole game plan is to never get specific on anything and just play the "I'm mad as hell and I'm not going to take this anymore!" message over and over. (Remember the movie "Network"? It foreshadowed Murdock, FOX, reality TV, and I'd say Donald Trump. It's worth re-watching)

Rubio and Trump's willy-waving  has thoroughly disgusted many of the so-called evangelicals, so although it's set Trump back a bit, it may have taken Rubio out of play as well. I don't think it's possble to battle for the low ground with Trump and not soil yourself in the process. }}}}

Mrs Figg wrote:Trump sounds barking mad most of the time. Why are so many people fooled by monumental egotists?

I'm not convinced it's being fooled so much as simply liking them.

The scary thing about Trump isn't so much that people believe he'll do what he says, but that they like what he says in the first place.

Trump is the polar opposite of Obama.

David H wrote:{{{{ Rubio and Trump's willy-waving  has thoroughly disgusted many of the so-called evangelicals, so although it's set Trump back a bit, it may have taken Rubio out of play as well. I don't think it's possble to battle for the low ground with Trump and not soil yourself in the process. }}}}

{{{{ Wait... are you setting us up for a Cruz nominee?  I'd be more terrified having him in office than Trump. }}}}

{{{{{Couple more wins for Trump- and just saw he is now saying he hasn't changed his position on torture ect- he is just acknowledging there are laws he has to obey- but that once President he will 'change the laws'. So that's alright then. }}}}}

halfwise wrote:
{{{{ Wait... are you setting us up for a Cruz nominee?  I'd be more terrified having him in office than Trump. }}}}

{{{Maybe a nominee if he's lucky, but I wouldn't worry too much Halfy. Cruz has pulled within 83 delegates of Trump now, and we've got a lot of Bible Belt primaries in the next couple weeks, so I'm more than half expecting to see him ahead of Trump by the end of the month. But once he gets to the western states I think he's going to have a harder time building momentum. His message only plays to a small segment of voters and he's got the charisma of a day-old carp, so I just can't see him driving anything like the Trump frenzy. This whole passion-play is disturbingly fascinating, isn't it? }}}

Honestly, Rubio sounds the least dangerous of them.

Kasich seems at least 'reasonable'.

Hillary sounds the most sound - but so is a plank of wood, which if you stand on it can rear up and smack you in the face.

Sanders is well intentioned, but - well, it's a rat race - politics that is - and Sanders is a bit cheesy (actually, a bit idealistic, but cheesy fits my slur better! ) poor, poor America!!!

Domestically a government is only as strong as it's mid-level bureaucrats, and I think we can weather a storm on that score.

• Hillary may be a bit of fraud - known to disparage the domestic help, etc behind the scenes - but at least her act keeps things moving in the right direction.
• Bernie will try to push through a bunch of things that congress won't let him get away with, and will be a no-show on foreign policy.
• Trump will be more of an international relations nightmare, but probably won't hurt trade.
• Cruz will be both a domestic and international relations nightmare. But he's smart enough to know how to manipulate the system: remember that he's the guy who shut down the government more or less single handed, because he knew how to do it and didn't care what people thought. Cold blooded schemer.

halfwise wrote:

David H wrote:{{{{ Rubio and Trump's willy-waving  has thoroughly disgusted many of the so-called evangelicals, so although it's set Trump back a bit, it may have taken Rubio out of play as well. I don't think it's possble to battle for the low ground with Trump and not soil yourself in the process. }}}}

{{{{ Wait... are you setting us up for a Cruz nominee?  I'd be more terrified having him in office than Trump. }}}}

OMG I totally agree. Now he IS scary. flaming nutcase evangelical Christian would be even worse than Trump, the only saving grace that Trump has is the fact he isn't a Bible basher. It would be a dark day for women.

Go Trump!!!

Oh, the agony of choice.

Do you want to be skewered or boiled in oil? (I'd go for community service. )

Since Eldo is off travelling noone is around to appreciate my Avatar references.

I think I have made up my mind yo reluctantly vote fir Hillary. But in what State will my vote be best employed?

Currently all is in a state of madness.

Little Marco's about to get lapped by Kasich.

Trump wins Mississippi and Michigan, Rubio BTFO.

Hillary mops up in Miss while Mich is still too close to call.

The GOP-only primaries in Idaho and Hawaii haven't closed yet.

Is Kasich our last hope?

Cruz is the last hope of the anti-Trump crowd, the only problem is that he might be even worse.

might?

Depends on how much Trump keeps upping the ante.

Politics confuse me I get easily confused. The American politics system confuses me a lot I have enough trouble with the "snakes in suits" in the UK.

Good point Blue.

Cruz is worse than Trump even if Trump ups the ante because you know Cruz actually believes what he says. With Trump it's likely he's just saying whatever will get him votes - straight talker my ass.