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Post by Eldorion Fri May 08, 2015 4:50 am

Boris Johnson: "We have an English parliament, it's call Westminster".

Wait, was I just saying the other day?

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Post by Pettytyrant101 Fri May 08, 2015 4:51 am

They just hit 50- remarkable result.

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Post by Pettytyrant101 Fri May 08, 2015 4:52 am

Yeah Boris letting the truth slip.

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Post by Pettytyrant101 Fri May 08, 2015 4:55 am

Clegg holds onto his seat- not sure he has held onto his party however. Wonder if he will resign in his speech.

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Post by Pettytyrant101 Fri May 08, 2015 4:58 am

Well not quite a resignation speech but close- sounds like he is going.

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Post by Eldorion Fri May 08, 2015 5:03 am

Yeah, there's no way Clegg can continue. Miliband's probably going to step down to, and Farage said he will if he loses in South Thanet.

Conservatives hold onto Dumfriesshire so with 53 out of 59 Scottish seats in the books, we have one each for Labour, the Lib Dems, and the Conservatives, and all the rest going to the SNP. This sort of regional dominance occurred in Southern Ireland before its independence and at times in Northern Ireland before the civil rights movement, but I don't think it's ever occurred in Britain before.
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Post by Eldorion Fri May 08, 2015 5:08 am

I also think it's remarkable that the shadow Foreign Secretary lost to a 20 year old, who is now the youngest MP in 350 years.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/SNP/11591144/SNPs-Mhairi-Black-becomes-Britains-youngest-MP-since-1667-after-defeating-Douglas-Alexander.html
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Post by Pettytyrant101 Fri May 08, 2015 5:30 am

Yeah that just demonstrates the extent of the Labour collapse.
SNP now on 53 seats.

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Post by Eldorion Fri May 08, 2015 5:46 am

You're in Argyll and Bute right, Petty? Congrats on contributing to the SNP victory there. Nod

Cameron rubbing the pollsters noses in it a little bit. Razz They seriously need to reassess their methodology. You can't just blame the "shy Tory" phenomenon, given how the SNP was underestimated by most (and the Lib Dems being overestimated, even though everyone thought they would lose ground).
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Post by Eldorion Fri May 08, 2015 5:48 am

Cameron: "one nation", but we're going to deliver on promises of greater devolution.

Conservatives are probably going to have a majority in their own right.
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Post by Pettytyrant101 Fri May 08, 2015 5:51 am

You're in Argyll and Bute right, Petty?- Eldo

Yeah, good to know my vote counted to something- makes a change!

Interesting comments from Cameron. Be interesting to see what he actually comes up with.

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Post by Pettytyrant101 Fri May 08, 2015 5:55 am

Danny Alexander Chief Sec to the Treasury has gone! cheers Another huge scalp for the SNP.

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Post by Eldorion Fri May 08, 2015 6:08 am

George Galloway got crushed by more than 11,000 votes.
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Post by Eldorion Fri May 08, 2015 7:05 am

Dimbleby calls it a night, and I probably will too.  Most of the late seats are Conservative, but here's where the count currently stands:

Conservative: 250 (+19)
Labour: 212 (-28)
Scottish National Party: 55 (+49)
Democratic Unionist Party: 8 (--)
Liberal Democrat: 6 (-41)
Sinn Fein: 4 (-1)
Plaid Cymru: 3 (--)
Social Democratic & Labour Party: 3 (--)
Ulster Unionist Party: 2 (+2)
UKIP: 1 (+1)
Green Party: 0 (--)
Alliance Party: 0 (-1)
Independent: 1
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Post by malickfan Fri May 08, 2015 9:22 am

Those results are not surprising, not looking forward to five more years of the Tories Neutral

Hopefully SNP slaughtering Labour might give them a kick up the arse.

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Post by halfwise Fri May 08, 2015 11:40 am

So who will the Tories make a coalition with? Even Labor won't join with SNP, will the Tories? Or, wonder of wonders, will the Tories join with Labor? Shocked

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Post by Mrs Figg Fri May 08, 2015 12:13 pm

so another Tory/Li Dem coalition then. Shocked

Shocked crushing defeat of Labour and Lib Dems. Clegg has paid dearly for tuition fees, and Wallace paid dearly for ..well.. everything really. Milliband just wasn't statesmanlike material, he did too little too late, and what he did do was damaging. They will both be getting their coats.
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Post by halfwise Fri May 08, 2015 12:32 pm

I didn't think there were enough Lib Dems left for a coalition.

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Post by halfwise Fri May 08, 2015 1:01 pm

Just saw the final results: Tories don't have to sleep with anyone.

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Post by Pettytyrant101 Fri May 08, 2015 1:59 pm

Wow that was some election night- the list of big name casualties is huge- Miliband, Clegg, Farage, Murphy, Hughes, Danny Alexander, Doulgas Alexander, Vince Cable, Ed Balls, George Galloway, David Laws, Charles Kennedy.
Its hard keeping track of everyone who has gone.

Remarkably Jim Murphy says he will stay on as leader of Scottish Labour - not sure how that will work given hes technically unemployed now and has no job or seat and he and his party couldn't have been more roundly rejected in Scotland.

Well the next move is Cameron's- after he stoked up the SNP as a threat he now has to find a way to deal with them. Because they are coming to Westminster and in numbers and with a overwhelming unprecedented mandate from the Scottish people.

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Post by Pettytyrant101 Fri May 08, 2015 2:15 pm

That Scottish result in stark graphic form-

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Post by Lancebloke Fri May 08, 2015 2:24 pm

Well... guess we now see how everything moves forward. Cameron said in his speech about the priority for reforms in Scotland and Wales. He is saying the right things there.
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Post by Pettytyrant101 Fri May 08, 2015 2:53 pm

Good to see you back Lance cheers

Yeah the ball is definitely in Cameron's court now- we shall have to see what he does with it.

Good to see also that of the 56 new SNP's MP's 20 of them are women.

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Post by Mrs Figg Fri May 08, 2015 4:29 pm

Pettytyrant101 wrote:Wow that was some election night- the list of big name casualties is huge- Miliband, Clegg, Farage, Murphy, Hughes, Danny Alexander, Doulgas Alexander, Vince Cable, Ed Balls, George Galloway, David Laws, Charles Kennedy.
Its hard keeping track of everyone who has gone.

Remarkably Jim Murphy says he will stay on as leader of Scottish Labour - not sure how that will work given hes technically unemployed now and has no job or seat and he and his party couldn't have been more roundly rejected in Scotland.

Well the next move is Cameron's- after he stoked up the SNP as a threat he now has to find a way to deal with them. Because they are coming to Westminster and in numbers and with a overwhelming unprecedented mandate from the Scottish people.

its a good job they are only in opposition then.
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Post by Mrs Figg Fri May 08, 2015 4:31 pm

Wave hiya Lance, where you been?
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