Waiting for 'The Battle of the Five Armies' [3] SPOILERS

um so you all seem to have forgotten Cate Blanchett dressed up like Galadriel shaking in her boots.. sorry.. bare feet over a few portly Nazgul, while Gandalf hovers like some second rate X Factor magician act on an invisible table. Then and only then Elrond flashes his weapon and utters the immortal words, 'you should have stayed dead'.  *groan*

EVERYTHING to do with Tauriel,  be it her romance crap or any of her dialog is utterly horrid. Jackson hit rock bottom by allowing that garbage in his films... As far as Elrond's line. I don't think PJ gets the fact, that the nazgul weren't dead. Hence his whole made up nonsense about tombs. But yeah that line was awful. I still think all the Kili Tauriel stuff is way worse though.

yep, pj dont no nuffink bout ringwraifs

they could not randomly appear as ghosts in ghostly armour, they were invisible to the physical world and needed items to make them visible. Apart from what else was written on the matter this is made clear when Eowyn sees only eyes between mantle and crown. They certainly aren't the dissipating gas clouds pj makes them.

Mrs Figg wrote:um so you all seem to have forgotten Cate Blanchett dressed up like Galadriel shaking in her boots.. sorry.. bare feet over a few portly Nazgul, while Gandalf hovers like some second rate X Factor magician act on an invisible table. Then and only then Elrond flashes his weapon and utters the immortal words, 'you should have stayed dead'.  *groan*

i was only referring to the kili and tauriel crapfest

ill have to look harder at DoggleBore, floating gandalf didnt seem so bad to me but maybe my brain has evolved some sort of crap buffering system thanks to these movies

Dol guldur was terrible. Absolutely BLEH! I don't get why people like the zombie Galadriel, it's so weird looking! At least do what they did in LOTR, she didn't look like she's the living dead, she just looked freaky. And yeah why was she scared of a few ringwraiths? As far as I'm concerned, she should have been LAUGHING! And then her laughter turned everything into flowers and Sauron wouldn't be able to handle the loveliness and then he'd be gone!
...at least that's what I would have done...

I've said it once, but I'll say it again: THAT FILM IS NOT FEMININE ENERGY and honestly what the hell even is feminine energy? That's such a vague term!

There wasnt ANY feminine energy. WTF is Boyens slipping in her tea ? In fact I didnt feel energy from any of the characters. Now turn this around and make it a "Spice Girls" movie & we could have had Tauriel doing a "tell me what you want" rendition, would have fitted in beautifully !

Yeah the whole notion of putting a female character into Th for something as illusory and made up as 'feminine energy' was a big mistake.
Mainly because for two female writers they cant right a female character worth a fig- one they invent is a pathetic joke of a woman controlled and pandering to all the men in her life and Galadriel they reduce to some sort of Gandalf wetnurse who can only be effective if she has an evil fit- must be her time of the month.

Coming from two female writers with a stated purpose of adding more feminine energy to the story I am not sure what they were thinking of when they created this mess.

'And yeah why was she scared of a few ringwraiths? As far as I'm concerned, she should have been LAUGHING! And then her laughter turned everything into flowers and Sauron wouldn't be able to handle the loveliness and then he'd be gone!
...at least that's what I would have done...'- Tin

Um, this is always tricky, dealing with Royalty and normality, but Ma'am I should perhaps point out that most of us cant walk right into Morgoths Throne Room and put the devil himself to sleep as your did for your Student Day Prank. Only Queens of Forumshire can do that sort of thing.

Tinuviel wrote:Dol guldur was terrible. Absolutely BLEH! I don't get why people like the zombie Galadriel, it's so weird looking! At least do what they did in LOTR, she didn't look like she's the living dead, she just looked freaky. And yeah why was she scared of a few ringwraiths? As far as I'm concerned, she should have been LAUGHING! And then her laughter turned everything into flowers and Sauron wouldn't be able to handle the loveliness and then he'd be gone!
...at least that's what I would have done...

I've said it once, but I'll say it again: THAT FILM IS NOT FEMININE ENERGY and honestly what the hell even is feminine energy? That's such a vague term!

well said Tin! I totally agree with you and its what I would have loved to see as well. Galadriel shouldn't look like an evil spirit from a horror movie. her power is not dark and freaky like that. her power is with living things, nature and yes she should have been magnificent and laughing off Sauron. We could have had a superb cinematic scene where the corruption of the Necromancer is cleansed with as you said, flowers and Light. The choice to make her look nastyfreaky is mind boggling. As for the voice, well that was cringemaking.

Saw it. I would have expected Galadriel to pull more of an amped up Arwen at the Fords of Bruinen type thing, but instead they made her look evil. Not right.

No Black Arrow speech? That's how we first find Bard is descended of Dale royalty, it shouldn't be announced by some craphead nobody listens to.

Stealing sandworms from Dune was just pointless.

I would have preferred Thorin, Fili and Kili to die in the heat of battle, not in a horror stalker movie.

But all in all it worked better for me than the other movies, probably because my expectations had been totally rearranged.

Petty wrote:And yeah why was she scared of a few ringwraiths? As far as I'm concerned, she should have been LAUGHING! And then her laughter turned everything into flowers and Sauron wouldn't be able to handle the loveliness and then he'd be gone!
...at least that's what I would have done...'- Tin

Um, this is always tricky, dealing with Royalty and normality, but Ma'am I should perhaps point out that most of us cant walk right into Morgoths Throne Room and put the devil himself to sleep as your did for your Student Day Prank. Only Queens of Forumshire can do that sort of thing.

Galadriel used to hang with me back in doriath she knows how to throw down a fortress I'm disappointed! Heck my mother would be disappointed!!!!! In fact when I get a free second, I'll give a proper telling of that incident with actual feminine energy!!!

http://news.moviefone.com/2014/12/19/peter-jackson-philippa-boyens-the-hobbit-interview/

Found this and had a great laugh, and in the same token am filled with dread and hope this never comes to be.

Maybe we'll get Evangeline down to New Zealand, shoot a bunch of stuff, chop it up and put it into a box set.

Tauriel in LOTR? Give me a freaking break!!! I think I want to vomit

I read that as a joke, like the comments about a 25th Anniversary Edition that they made in the EE commentaries for LOTR.

Eldorion wrote:I read that as a joke, like the comments about a 25th Anniversary Edition that they made in the EE commentaries for LOTR.

I hope so, if it is a joke, it's in very poor taste I wouldn't put it past them to try something more with middle earth

talk about adding insult to injury. If its true or half true or joking, its not funny.

I guess that's kind of the problem. You don't really know. Is it a joke.. or..

azriel wrote:There wasnt ANY feminine energy. WTF is Boyens slipping in her tea ? In fact I didnt feel energy from any of the characters. Now turn this around and make it a "Spice Girls" movie & we could have had Tauriel doing a "tell me what you want" rendition, would have fitted in beautifully !

Oh come on. Crying in a gibber heap over one guy she just met and being rejected by the other she's known for 600 years to the point where he leaves forever without saying a word isn't that, like, totally a feminist POV? I mean, they were both really, REALLY hot.

Stig wrote:

azriel wrote:There wasnt ANY feminine energy. WTF is Boyens slipping in her tea ? In fact I didnt feel energy from any of the characters. Now turn this around and make it a "Spice Girls" movie & we could have had Tauriel doing a "tell me what you want" rendition, would have fitted in beautifully !

Oh come on. Crying in a gibber heap over one guy she just met and being rejected by the other she's known for 600 years to the point where he leaves forever without saying a word isn't that, like, totally a feminist POV? I mean, they were both really, REALLY hot.

or crying in a gibber heap over some fat nazgul and having to be rescued by Elrond channelling John 'yippee ki yay' McClane.

halfwise wrote:Saw it.  I would have expected Galadriel to pull more of an amped up Arwen at the Fords of Bruinen type thing, but instead they made her look evil.  Not right.

No Black Arrow speech?  That's how we first find Bard is descended of Dale royalty, it shouldn't be announced by some craphead nobody listens to.

Stealing sandworms from Dune was just pointless.

I would have preferred Thorin, Fili and Kili to die in the heat of battle, not in a horror stalker movie.

But all in all it worked better for me than the other movies, probably because my expectations had been totally rearranged.

The whole loss of the Black arrow speech was a complete let down for me. I thought what they did with the black lance-type thing they had to fire from that makeshift broken bow crap was horrible and stupid.