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Post by Pettytyrant101 Mon Feb 24, 2014 5:14 pm

Hah! The lore Masters Achilles Heel- an unresolved definition!  Laughing 

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Post by Elthir Mon Feb 24, 2014 5:19 pm

Drat! I'll accept both options as true.

And now I am sleepy and content again.

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Post by azriel Mon Feb 24, 2014 5:59 pm

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are we good Petty ?

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Post by Pettytyrant101 Mon Feb 24, 2014 6:04 pm

Twisted Evil 

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Post by Mrs Figg Mon Feb 24, 2014 6:17 pm

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Post by Norc Mon Feb 24, 2014 6:26 pm

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Pettytyrant101 wrote:I also told them it was fine to post their vids but that it was better if they wanted to showcase their work to say hello first and make occasional posts other than their own work.

I'm gonna be blunt and say: don't do this in the future.

The obsession of a small faction here when it comes to identifying and chasing away trolls and "self-promoters" is honestly ridiculous and has the effect of alienating people who might otherwise have become productive members of the community on their own.  Remember Paul Anderson?  Besides, even if someone just posts there work, it can be nice to see and can spawn discussion in those threads.  If someone is clearly just a being a disruptive spammer, we can identify this, but we have tried to give the benefit of a doubt to everyone who appears to be a real person rather than a bot.  The alternative (which seems to be becoming more popular lately) makes the forum appear unwelcoming since the first several posts a newbie might see are just telling them off, even if you think you're just giving friendly advice.  And there is unquestionably a double standard here (as Mrs Figg points out) since no one felt the need to tell off Elena, for example, and instead were creepily fawning over her until she mentioned her age.
this^ i totally agree.

let's learn from this and not do this in the future.
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Post by Norc Mon Feb 24, 2014 6:32 pm

Pettytyrant101 wrote:And there is unquestionably a double standard here- Eldo

Actually Elena had made two posts of vids and responded between them to peoples comments and introduced herself to the forum before I made a single comment on it at all.


yeah, and lucky for her you were late in response Rolling Eyes


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Post by Norc Mon Feb 24, 2014 6:38 pm

ok. i won't blow this up again, but can we all agree that mistakes were made, not only by petty, but by everyone, and that next time, we give it time ok? we let them post, we welcome it and if it does turn out to be a bot/spammer, then ok, but let's wait, let's say, more than a day, k?

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Post by Mrs Figg Mon Feb 24, 2014 7:55 pm

But it was mostly Pettys fault  Trollface 
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Post by Norc Mon Feb 24, 2014 7:57 pm

don't. start. again. orwell was in on it too. and bungo. now, no name calling and finger pointing! let us put this behind us and hope tony comes back Smile
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Post by RA Mon Feb 24, 2014 8:26 pm

Guys, don't fight. I accept full responsibility for this all.

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Post by Elthir Mon Feb 24, 2014 8:52 pm

but can we all agree that mistakes were made, not only by petty, but by everyone, and that...

But I was busy ignoring every thread relevant to this discussion. Well, not purposely ignoring them, except for this one that asked me to, but even then I didn't ignore it only to ask people not to ask me to ignore things if they really wanted them ignored.

Now I must accept minorative blame? Drat again.
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Post by Norc Mon Feb 24, 2014 8:53 pm

i am ignoring you.
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Post by Elthir Mon Feb 24, 2014 8:57 pm

lol! 
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Post by malickfan Mon Feb 24, 2014 9:01 pm

I was busy ignoring every thread relevant to this discussion. Well, not purposely ignoring them, except for this one that asked me to, but even then I didn't ignore it only to ask people not to ask me to ignore things if they really wanted them ignored.



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That's Forumshire speak for you!

I always seem to miss these threads, one minute a new member introduces him/her/itself, the next we are arguing about trolls, trolling and Petty (though we do that anyway of course  Wink ), I agree with Norc he was only posting a video so give things a while to settle in before anyone gets concerned, you can usually tell who genuine and who isn't (well genuine in the sense of wanting to post regulatory, genuine in regards to positive morals is a  different matter...)

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Post by RA Mon Feb 24, 2014 9:06 pm

I think we're all aware that mistakes were made now. Maybe we shouldn't carry on about it.

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Post by azriel Mon Feb 24, 2014 9:07 pm

Elthir wrote:
But I was busy ignoring every thread relevant to this discussion. Well, not purposely ignoring them, except for this one that asked me to, but even then I didn't ignore it only to ask people not to ask me to ignore things if they really wanted them ignored.

Now I must accept minorative blame? Drat again.
 So........ why not ignore it ?  Wink

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Post by Norc Mon Feb 24, 2014 9:08 pm

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Post by Elthir Mon Feb 24, 2014 9:16 pm

So........ why not ignore it?

Good advice. If Norc can ignore that remark about 'Cumberbatch's dad' I certainly can ignore the blame.
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