Re: Fjordlandia Viking bar & kaffistove, main str. 221B, Needlehole [2]

by Ringdrotten Wed Jan 01, 2014 10:45 pm

Norc wrote:OMG! P;GPSNBV>bh!!!

i just came in from minus 4 degrees, freezing my fingers off taking pictures of THE MOST AMAZING NORTHERN LIGHTS I HAVE EVER SEEN! AND TAKE IT FROM ME, I LIVE HERE AND THIS IS ALMOST DAILY! IT WAS AMAZING! I HAD A RELIGIOUS EXPERIENCE! the pictures doesn't do it justice at all! i had to have a long exposure time and manual focus BUT OMG HOW IT MOVED! IT WAS GREEN AND PURPLE (that's rare because those gases in the atmosphere that emit purple light are further down) IT DANCED REALLY FAST AND NO KIDDING IT WAS JUST LIKE THOSE RIDICOLOUS TOURIST COMMERCIAL I POSTED! HONESTLY! GIVE ME TWO SECS AND I'LL POST SOME PICTURES!

Fjordlandia Viking bar & kaffistove, main str. 221B, Needlehole [2] - Page 10 S_waiting_9

by Norc Wed Jan 01, 2014 10:46 pm

it takes a bloody long time!!! and i have to pick the best ones and it is hard!

by halfwise Wed Jan 01, 2014 10:47 pm

I'm waiting too. Pick up the pace, will you?

by halfwise Wed Jan 01, 2014 10:48 pm

Did you take video as well?

by Norc Wed Jan 01, 2014 10:49 pm

nope, i tried but it was too dark and i couldn't find the video button Rolling Eyes

and my phone was out of battery so i couldn't use that for light..

by **Orwell** Wed Jan 01, 2014 10:59 pm

Oh Blue --- per my last post. I only rant about what I rant about because that first song is truly worth finessing. I think it's a really good song. I hope I didn't go overboard a bit -- I certainly went off at quite a tangent. Very Happy

by Norc Wed Jan 01, 2014 11:25 pm

http://bluetomorrow.blogg.no/1388618336_02012014.html HEREE!

by Norc Wed Jan 01, 2014 11:36 pm

a friend of mine took way better photos than me, here's a link (there are three photos)

by Pettytyrant101 Wed Jan 01, 2014 11:37 pm

Stunning Norc- that must have been some spectacle to behold.

by Pettytyrant101 Wed Jan 01, 2014 11:40 pm

That Mrs Figg is why camping is worth it, bugs, cold and all- just imagine lying out under that, all snug and cosy in your super thermal sleeping bag with the warm glow of the fires embers on you, staring up at a sky full of mesmerizing, dancing colour!

by **Orwell** Wed Jan 01, 2014 11:48 pm

I prefer others to take the pictures while I'm half-snoozing by the fire inside a house (where humans belong).

by Norc Wed Jan 01, 2014 11:51 pm

Pettytyrant101 wrote:Stunning Norc- that must have been some spectacle to behold.

it was. and i, not to be bragging, but i have seen a lot, and this was by far one of the best ones i have ever seen Nod

by Bluebottle Thu Jan 02, 2014 12:20 am

Wow, better have a look at these pictures then. Very Happy

Norc wrote:please put up the violin thing blue

I should stop saying I will do these things, I feel so obligated. Razz

Joking aside, of course I'll put it up if you're interested. Nod

It would be interesting to hear what you think.

Though I'm having some issues with the new string which is audible. So maybe I should record a new one.

by Bluebottle Thu Jan 02, 2014 12:26 am

Orwell, I don't mind at all.

Actually, I'm rather flattered you think it worth the effort. Very Happy

I was planning on making some wholesale changes to it. It's a bit too long. Well, at least 34 seconds. And probably some other stuff as well.

Oh, and sorry if I ruined your spamathon. Laughing

I should have better manners, I know.

by Bluebottle Thu Jan 02, 2014 12:30 am

Ah, you seem to have fixed that all on your own. Laughing

Oh, sorry again.

by **Orwell** Thu Jan 02, 2014 12:40 am

I think you're right about the song's length. The intro music could be halved to make it snappier. I like the music for the first half of the intro but then it starts getting a bit tedious (I have a short attention span!) The main chorus (verse-chorus?) could be narrowed down to one time at a time - though repeated twice at the end, the second time slowed right down, maybe the music minimized with focus on voice (half spoken?) I'm not sure if that would make the song too short, but I think it's worth experimenting with the idea. A musical interlude before the last two choruses (by my reckoning) would be good, but perhaps some other instrument other than guitar might be used as a solo* -- or the guitar playing a different solo. This section could be as long as your current intro as we should be well and truly in the mood by then, but the guitar solo would have to be painstakingly worked out to keep interest if you make it quite long.

{{{*What about some really old instrument like a recorder or even a Fjordian twanglelyre?}}}

Just my initial thoughts. Very Happy

And feel free to break my spamathon. It's expected! Very Happy

Btw I could not make out the lyrics in the first middle section.

by Bluebottle Thu Jan 02, 2014 1:05 am

Well, thank you for the input Orwell. Very Happy

I might or might not do all or any of that. It might have been the kick up the backside I needed to go back and do it more properly.

Yeah, first middle section isn't really finished, but it sounds passably finished enough that someone might believe it was. Laughing

by **Orwell** Thu Jan 02, 2014 1:10 am

Bluebottle wrote:Yeah, first middle section isn't really finished, but it sounds passably finished enough that someone might believe it was.

Not me. Are the words not quite finished in your mind? Are they indistinct because of a lack of conviction by the writer? Don't suppose you could PM all the lyrics. I'd like to a have a total picture of what you're trying to put over. I promise not to steal them --- though I might borrow a few choice lines as inspiration! Who knows, I might PM back some further suggestions as one lyricist to another --- for your consideration only, of course, and no charge. Very Happy

by halfwise Thu Jan 02, 2014 1:25 am

I guess I may as well jump in here. There's good stuff (I really liked the second one, personally), but to me in both cases there was too much repetition without variation. Repetition can be very powerful if a secondary theme is developed through it: can be as simple as a crescendo, slight variations in melody, background instrumentation that varies with each pass, etc. Anyway, the listener has to feel that the music is still going somewhere or will be quick to lose interest. Two identical passages is about all most people will put up with: once a third go-round starts the audience suspects a fixed pattern with no obvious end and will begin to check out on you.

Other than that it's sounding very accomplished, the vocals especially.

by **Orwell** Thu Jan 02, 2014 1:26 am

Been listening back again. It is areally good song. I think I'm getting abetter idea on what the lyrics are. I'm getting the guitar out and will see if I can work out the tune. Sounds nicely simple. If I can come up with a version that I think 'rocks (not literally) I'll cover it on Mobile! It might never be the same again. Very Happy

{{{Disclaimer. I don't think my voice will suit it -- but that has never stopped me singing before. Very Happy

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{{{Maybe if you sent me the chords... mmm.... would help... Laughing

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by **Orwell** Thu Jan 02, 2014 1:30 am

halfwise wrote:I guess I may as well jump in here. There's good stuff (I really liked the second one, personally), but to me in both cases there was too much repetition without variation. Repetition can be very powerful if a secondary theme is developed through it: can be as simple as a crescendo, slight variations in melody, background instrumentation that varies with each pass, etc. Anyway, the listener has to feel that the music is still going somewhere or will be quick to lose interest. Two identical passages is about all most people will put up with: once a third go-round starts the audience suspects a fixed pattern with no obvious end and will begin to check out on you.

Other than that it's sounding very accomplished, the vocals especially.

Exaxctly. Maybe a new verse - or a repeated verse - to compensate for my suggested paring of choruses? Shrugging

Leave it to me and Halfy, Blue. Nod

We'll sort it out for you. After all, I assume like me you love people interfering with your creative muse.

{{{Like fuck I do! Extremely Crabbit

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by **Orwell** Thu Jan 02, 2014 1:48 am

You're right about the second song too, Halfy. Just much less finished.

Oh yes, I think I'm getting the first tune worked out. Twisted Evil

by Norc Thu Jan 02, 2014 1:57 am

Bluebottle wrote:So maybe I should record a new one.

no.

by Bluebottle Thu Jan 02, 2014 3:45 pm

Thank you for the feedback Halfwise. Smile

I do wonder if they appear a bit too much like that by being put together in their current state. As I told Orwell, the forst one appears a bit too much that way because I haven't really finished it and the second one was written like that very intentionally. Still they both seem to lend a bit from that style of song writing.

And I'm glad to hear you liked the second song. Strangely every second person I've showed to songs to seem to have a different favourite. I do intend to add more to the repeated line at the end to increase the dynamic.

As I said they are both a bit throwaway at the moment, but I wanted to share something.

Glad to hear you're coming around to the second one Orwell.

by Bluebottle Thu Jan 02, 2014 3:48 pm

Norc wrote:
Bluebottle wrote:So maybe I should record a new one.
no.

Well, you shall have it then. Wink

{{{Though I feel even less sure of my playing after watching Scandal in Belgravia last night. Laughing

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*Goes off to play violin as to forget it until tommorow again*