Re: More Hobbit pictures [4] SPOILER THREAD

[Sinister71]

And STILL no talking purse.  

I'm more disappointed that there is no Dain Ironfoot in the EE honestly. Dain is a very important character to the story even though he is in it briefly. But he does appear in the appendices which gives us more time with the character. Time to learn more about the dwarf who would (or at least SHOULD) become King Under the Mountain. But instead we get Jackson making Dain out to be unsympathetic and unhelpful. Never once making an appearance to build up his character. to get fans behind him when he becomes king. Sadly according to Billy Connolly his role is pretty much a cameo role. A cameo REALLY? We get Legolas running all over middle earth dry humping Tauriel, getting involved in crap he never did. Yet a character from the book and appendices gets a fucking cameo role even though he ends up being the leader of the forces in the east. Honestly Peter Jackson has lost his mind and couldn't tell Tolkien's story even if he really wanted to.    

At this point I would gladly take the talking purse as well because at least its part of Tolkien's world.  

[Pettytyrant101]

These extended scenes get worse and worse.
For all my crabbit at LotR's many of the EE scenes were ones I felt were important enough character beats to have warranted inclusion in the theatrical cut over much of the unnecessary additions that were in it.
But with these 'extensions' I feel that they deserved to be on the cutting room floor (granted with most of the theatrical cut too) and are only being trotted out into the light of day now because after LotR's everyone expects there to be an EE.
This film and these scenes prove that an EE for them is in fact unwarranted. These scenes only add more bad and increased crabbitness  

[Mrs Figg]

the EEs are cheap and nasty, they make the Dwarves and Elves look like jerks.

[malickfan]

In fairness I did always wonder why Dain or the apparently massive Dwarven settlement at the Iron Hills didn't just try and take back Erebor themselves (though of course We aren't given a location of the Iron Hills in The Hobbit as originally published)-obviously Dain didn't see the point or likelihood in doing it himself so I can kinda get why Jackson and co are making him out to be a doubtful git thus far...less easy to fathom is why they wouldn't utilize an opportunity to introduce him as soon as possible.

 

[Mrs Figg]

I guess a dirty great Dragon would be bit of a reason. 

[Sinister71]

In fairness I did always wonder why Dain or the apparently massive Dwarven settlement at the Iron Hills didn't just try and take back Erebor themselves (though of course We aren't given a location of the Iron Hills in The Hobbit as originally published)-obviously Dain didn't see the point or likelihood in doing it himself so I can kinda get why Jackson and co are making him out to be a doubtful git thus far...less easy to fathom is why they wouldn't utilize an opportunity to introduce him as soon as possible.

 

well that was kind of my point since the appendices gave a prime reason to introduce him. It gave him an important task. So that in the beginning of the film we see how important he is. How much weight he carries and why he has that weight and status among the dwarfs. Dain probably did see the folly in trying to take on a dragon since all of Erebor couldn't defeat him he probably felt it would get more dwarfs killed for nothing. So who can really blame him. And since Thorin was the rightful heir it should be his place. But I mean to make Dain Ironfoot an unlikable character from the start isn't the way to have people cheering when he finally shows up or is made King under the mountain. Jackson missed a major opportunity IMO by skipping the character and mentioning him in a not so nice way in AUJ. The general audience is going to be like, "WTF!!???, This guy wouldn't help Thorin, said he's on his own, yet shows up and is made king just because Thorin dies. Why not one of the dwarfs on the quest?"And who knows Jackson may have already fucked that up too and made Dwalin King Under the Mountain for all we know at this point.

I could have seen a scene with Thorin and Dain with Dain explaining rationally to Thorin about not wanting to get more dwarfs killed and if Thorin wanted to reclaim the halls. It was his quest and if Dain tried to talk Thorin out of it but said if Thorin needed him he would come. As well as showing Dain and what he actually did in the appendices. It would have painter Dain in a much better light and shown how stubborn Thorin is. Also it should have been Thorin and Dain to be hugging after the battle of Moria which would have shown their closeness. giving some positive light for Dain Ironfoot

[malickfan]

Well as long as it isn't Tauriel...

[RA]

Giving Dain any sort of character would've been too nuanced for these films. They aren't aimed at us, even though they're perfect adaptations fully in the spirit of the author.

[Sinister71]

Giving Dain any sort of character would've been too nuanced for these films. They aren't aimed at us, even though they're perfect adaptations fully in the spirit of the author.

According to Peter Jackson maybe

I guess I just have a mind that thinks telling the story in the book and appendices would work on film and still be successful. Peter Jackson IMO is more concerned with HIS made up story than he is adapting the material. Nothing says ego to me than taking someone elses story tearing it apart adding more made up content than original story into it and then reaping the rewards because of the original authors name. Plus the success of the previous film trilogy which the new one feels nothing like. At this point for me the only thing Tolkien in these films is the words "based on the book by JRR Tolkien"  

[RA]

According to Peter Jackson maybe

Bit a paradox, right?

[malickfan]

I read a interesting comment the other day along the lines of 'Peter Jackson is making a movie of The Hobbit based on the Video Game partially inspired by Alan Lee's Calender's inspired by the book'.

Now that would be something good for creative Corner Jackson being haunted by Tolkien's Spirit...

[Sinister71]

According to Peter Jackson maybe

Bit a paradox, right?

Not sure about that a paradox might be true. I find no truth in any of Jackson's claims about sticking to Tolkien or the spirit of Tolkien, with what I seen in the hobbit films so far.

[Norc]

someone please make this into one gif with the text "haters gonna hate"

[Amarië]

someone please make this into one gif with the text "haters gonna hate"

This. Must happen.

[Lancebloke]

And we thought Tauriel/Legolas was going to be the love story.

[Amarië]

You mean Thorin/Tauriel. Or Galadriel/Gandalf. Or Peter Jackson/Peter Jackson.

[Mrs Figg]

or Peter Jackson/Philipa Boyens..oh wait....that ship has sailed

[bungobaggins]

someone please make this into one gif with the text "haters gonna hate"

Best I could do. I couldn't make one smooth gif because of the way the three originals had been cut up.

I set it to 0 milliseconds between each frame, but it still looks slower than the original.

I just noticed a little hiccup in one of the frames, but I can't account for this in the images I transferred to GIMP. TUMBLRRRRRR!!!!!!!!  

[Norc]

BRILLIANT! LOVE IT!

[RA]

Or Peter Jackson/Peter Jackson.

It all makes sense now.  This movie isn't about Bilbo or Thorin (or even the appendices!), it's a love story.

[Eldorion]

Clearest picture of the Master of Lake-town so far, courtesy of Stephen Fry's Twitter.

[Mrs Figg]

very Falstaffian

[Eldorion]

I think Fry looks pretty good, but I'm not looking forward to the testicle-eating.

[Tinuviel]

   the... what?

[Lancebloke]

Testicle eating Tin.

Ask Figgy if you want to know more.