Re: Rate LOTR-Hobbit

by Pettytyrant101 Mon Nov 11, 2013 8:09 pm

Because its about the films, which are as far from Tolkien as you can get and still get away with using the name.
And, more importantly, just outed Eldo as a liberal (I knew I was right that first Awards year to put him in the most liberal category, but I believed him when he protested his innocence Mad

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by Eldorion Mon Nov 11, 2013 8:11 pm

Pettytyrant101 wrote:And all this time you have claimed not to be a PJ liberal Eldo- for shame

I'm not rating the films as adaptations, but as films. This distinction has been raised numerous times, including on the first page of this thread. Rolling Eyes

by Eldorion Mon Nov 11, 2013 8:11 pm

Orwell wrote: Why is this thread not in the Tolkien section of Forumshire?

Good point, I'll move it.

by Pettytyrant101 Mon Nov 11, 2013 8:17 pm

I'm not rating the films as adaptations, but as films. - Eldo

Neither was I. Compare and contrast.
On the one hand, me, crabbit, unpleasant, drunk, hating the end results, and there's you, generally happy with the outcome, not to crabbit on a scale of 1-10- therefore a liberal.
I am afraid you have convicted yourself this time Eldo. Nod

You have been a secret liberal all along! Nod

Not to fear Eldo I shall do all I can to cure you at all costs. Twisted Evil

(Not including any actual costs)

by bungobaggins Mon Nov 11, 2013 8:40 pm

Eldorion wrote:Wow, you guys are really down on the LOTR films today. Is this because of the Tauriel/orc scene that was previewed?

YES! Well, that and, well...urgh! Extremely Crabbit

by RA Mon Nov 11, 2013 9:24 pm

FOTR - 75%
TT - 40%
ROTK - 60%
AUJ - 20%
I fear that DOS won't even make it to double digits after that last preview

by Ringdrotten Mon Nov 11, 2013 10:36 pm

Rated only according to how much I enjoy watching them:

FOTR: 10
TT: 7
ROTK: 8
AUJ: 4

And Once Upon a Time in America is a fantastic film, Petty, I had almost forgotten about it. Time for a rewatch soon, I think Smile

by Eldorion Mon Nov 11, 2013 10:50 pm

Here's my full ratings on a scale of 10, according to how much I enjoy each film (not their qualities as adaptations).

Animated movies:
TH: 4.5
LOTR: 2
ROTK: 3

PJ's movies:
FOTR: 9
TTT: 9
ROTK: 10
AUJ: 5

Objectively, FOTR is pretty clearly the best of the bunch, but I think I enjoy ROTK the most. Sometimes I put TTT at the top, even though it has a lot of the lowest lows in the trilogy. So my ratings are not set in stone at all. Shrugging

by Bluebottle Mon Nov 11, 2013 10:59 pm

Also I think it's impotant to note that the ratingssystem isn't without it's flaws. It's certainly not a standarised measurment one apply. So one persons 3 might easily be another persons 7, one persons 7 might be another persons 10 and so on.

I think I tend to rate the movies a bit lower as they are obviously blockbuster movies and are therefor playing to the lowest common denominator at times.

by Eldorion Mon Nov 11, 2013 11:03 pm

Good point, Bluebottle. I know that I have a fairly generous rating scale. I try to rate movies based on how they succeed on their own terms, too, so if a blockbuster absolutely succeeds at every level of being a blockbuster I'll give it a 9 or a 10 rating. That doesn't mean I necessarily think it has the same artistic merit of a serious dramatic film, but if it works, it works. I use somewhat different criteria for other genres too. Not saying that's the right or best way to rate films, but it's just what I've found myself doing when I try.

by Mrs Figg Mon Nov 11, 2013 11:33 pm

oo its nearly the same as mine Eldo Razz

by leelee Tue Nov 12, 2013 5:09 am

I keep changing so I won't. Challenge to you all, if you are particularly bugged by Peter DON'T WATCH THE NEXT TWO. But I bet you cannot, I bet you secretly wouldn't miss them for the world or at least Middle EArth!
HI RINGDROTTEN, HOW ARE YOU DOING IN SCHOOL ? HAVE WE GOT A PICTURE OF YOU. I THINK HALVSIE SHOWED QUITE A FEW OF US, AND MY AVY IS ME HOW ABOUT YOU RINGY?

by Pettytyrant101 Tue Nov 12, 2013 8:17 am

oo its nearly the same as mine Eldo- Mrs Figg

And he says hes not a PJ loving liberal Mad

by Bluebottle Tue Nov 12, 2013 2:35 pm

Eldorion wrote:Good point, Bluebottle. I know that I have a fairly generous rating scale.

Yes, so our ratings of the movies is probably closer than just the numbers would imply.

Apart from the obvious exceptions, of course.

by Mrs Figg Tue Nov 12, 2013 3:52 pm

Pettytyrant101 wrote:oo its nearly the same as mine Eldo- Mrs Figg

And he says hes not a PJ loving liberal

He has excellent taste Cool

by Pettytyrant101 Tue Nov 12, 2013 4:17 pm

Yeah, for a Pj loving liberal he does! Mad

by Forest Shepherd Thu Nov 28, 2013 11:33 am

Jackson's Lord of the Rings:
FotR: 10
TTT: 9.5
RotK: 9.5

Ralph Bakshi "Lord of the Rings"
Haven't seen it yet. Probably a nice solid: 5
(the "Walkingtacosdub" dubbed-over version (available on youtube)): 10 lol!

Jackson's An Unexpected Journey: 3.0

P.S.
I just noticed that I have attained the rank of "clue-finder." How interesting!

by Radaghast Thu Nov 28, 2013 1:35 pm

Pettytyrant101 wrote:1. FotR- 4/10
2. TT- 2
3. RotK- 3
4. AUJ (are we allowed minuses)

Good question: what's the lowest score?

Anyway, assuming it's 1...
1. FotR: 3/10
2. TT: 1
3. RotK: 2
4. AUJ: 1
5. R&B's TH: 5
6. Bakshi's LotR: 3
7. R&B's RotK: 3

by Eldorion Thu Nov 28, 2013 4:51 pm

Forest Shepherd wrote:P.S.
I just noticed that I have attained the rank of "clue-finder." How interesting!

As you may have noticed, our current rank system is based on the number of posts you have made, and the names come from Bilbo's various nicknames, especially the ones that he gives to Smaug. Nod

by malickfan Thu Nov 28, 2013 7:37 pm

Wow Radaghast...feeling generous you weren't!

Petty will be pleased.

by Radaghast Thu Nov 28, 2013 7:39 pm

It's kind of funny that my ratings are lower than PT's. I based my ratings partly on stuff he's pointed out that never even occurred to me Very Happy

by Mrs Figg Thu Nov 28, 2013 7:55 pm

not more grass length stuff

by Radaghast Thu Nov 28, 2013 7:56 pm

by Eldorion Thu Nov 28, 2013 7:57 pm

I wish I lived in your guys' world where the average film is apparently so incredible that LOTR merits only a 1/10 rating. Razz

by Pettytyrant101 Thu Nov 28, 2013 7:58 pm

It's kind of funny that my ratings are lower than PT's. - Radaghast

Its that long since I watched Pj's cut that really the scores are more a reflection of watching my own edits.

I wish I lived in your guys' world where the average film is apparently so incredible that LOTR merits only a 1/10 rating.- Eldo

Obviously you need to start watching better films and not crap like Avengers then Twisted Evil

(Seen Wicker Man yet? Suspect

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