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Re: Doctor Who [5]
by David H Thu Jun 06, 2013 6:37 pm
I think you're making too big a deal about the historical accuracy Petty. {{{{but I guess that's what petty tyrants are supposed to do, right? 
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There are many documented historical cases of women passing for men or boys. There are no documented cases of aliens passing for men that I know of. So there you go!
The way to do it would be to write the role as androgynous and then cast the best actor of whatever gender. You probably wouldn't even need to bring in the filters to explain things, and you'd have an added advantage that the doctor could pass either way as it served the story. What's wrong with that? All that's lost is the hunk factor.
}}}}There are many documented historical cases of women passing for men or boys. There are no documented cases of aliens passing for men that I know of. So there you go!
The way to do it would be to write the role as androgynous and then cast the best actor of whatever gender. You probably wouldn't even need to bring in the filters to explain things, and you'd have an added advantage that the doctor could pass either way as it served the story. What's wrong with that? All that's lost is the hunk factor.
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Re: Doctor Who [5]
by Ally Thu Jun 06, 2013 6:37 pm
If DW wants to remain one of the most influential TV shows in Britain that the kind of risk it will have to take. Let's ignore the view of certain areas of white, MC Britain and accept that the Doctor being something different from a white British heterosexual male wouldn't be a novelty & could actually produce some compelling thought provoking television.
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Re: Doctor Who [5]
by Mrs Figg Thu Jun 06, 2013 7:08 pm
''women have babies is a sexist idea!'' Petty
thats a pretty facile comment. No I mean that womens bodies deserve more respect.
mod edit- spoilered as this is the stuff Dave is about to watch.
thats a pretty facile comment. No I mean that womens bodies deserve more respect.
- Spoiler:
- The forced insemination, the fear of losing a child, the fear of infertility, are not subjects to be treated lightly by some half baked sexist wanting an easy plotline on the back of some poor females body. I expect subjects like that from Eastenders, (which to do them justice they do tend to have a resolution and tackle the issues in a sympathetic manner) I dont expect it from a kids show that has no intention of furthering or more than superficially tackling the issue. Amy Pond never mourns her kid or reacts in any normal human way, and you know why?
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Re: Doctor Who [5]
by Pettytyrant101 Thu Jun 06, 2013 8:13 pm
Mrs Figg I dont agree at all
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- that Amty doesnt react. She does, she pleads with the Doctor, phones him all the time to find out if he has found her- but that period of time is exactly one summer, while she is recovering from Demons Run- at the end of which they discover who Mels is and the meaning of paradoxes means they cant go back to when she was a baby now, thats harsh and tragic but its part of the story, part of the guilt the Doctor puts onto himself leading to his decision to withdraw from the universe.
Amy also takes the life of Madame Kovarian for taking her child, and its her guilt about that act which prompts River to reveal the Doctors secret in order to help her mother through it.
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Re: Doctor Who [5]
by David H Thu Jun 06, 2013 8:48 pm
I didn't read the spoiler, but I'm pretty sure I know your line of argument Petty. I also know from past discussions that Mrs Figg's objections to this are deep and visceral. You think the storyline packs a legitimate punch, Mrs Figg thinks it lands below the belt. For now I see no reason to assume you're not both right. I'm probably looking forward to seeing these episodes more than anything else you'll send me, even more than the newest Hobbit edit, just to see what all the fuss is about.... 
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Re: Doctor Who [5]
by Pettytyrant101 Thu Jun 06, 2013 10:33 pm
I envy you David you have them to see fresh for the first time.
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Re: Doctor Who [5]
by chris63 Fri Jun 07, 2013 10:22 am
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Re: Doctor Who [5]
by Pettytyrant101 Fri Jun 07, 2013 12:35 pm
God no. He'd just play it as Russell Brand, same as everything else. And not exactly a good role model for the kids.
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Re: Doctor Who [5]
by Pettytyrant101 Fri Jun 07, 2013 6:17 pm
The BBC used to be really careful about this sort of thing- not wanting the 'Doctor' to be on the front pages of tabloids in drugs and sex scandals all the time.
But then there was a time not so long ago when they wouldnt have cast a woman who had appeared nude in a BBC adult drama in a family show - but they did with JLC. So maybe they have got less prudish, or less fearful of outraged Daily Mail readers.
But then there was a time not so long ago when they wouldnt have cast a woman who had appeared nude in a BBC adult drama in a family show - but they did with JLC. So maybe they have got less prudish, or less fearful of outraged Daily Mail readers.
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Re: Doctor Who [5]
by Pettytyrant101 Mon Jun 10, 2013 3:26 am
The BBC have released their figures for the first half of season seven.
The first figure is the overnight viewing, the +7 figure is their estimation based on iplayer ect of how many watched altogether, and the last figure is the percent increase in viewers between the two.
Going on these figures the show is easily as popular now as it was when NuWho came back. Not bad eight years on.
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The first figure is the overnight viewing, the +7 figure is their estimation based on iplayer ect of how many watched altogether, and the last figure is the percent increase in viewers between the two.
Going on these figures the show is easily as popular now as it was when NuWho came back. Not bad eight years on.
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Re: Doctor Who [5]
by Pettytyrant101 Mon Jun 10, 2013 5:28 pm
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Re: Doctor Who [5]
by Pettytyrant101 Mon Jun 10, 2013 7:12 pm
Couple of tribute to the 11th vids that have surfaced, obviously will contain spoilers for series 5,6 and 7 (I prefer the second one)
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Re: Doctor Who [5]
by Norc Mon Jun 10, 2013 7:16 pm
putting this here because it's a who reference:
What Should Happen When John finds out Sherlock is still Alive
John: Three years.
Sherlock: You hit me with a cricket bat!
John: [he snorts] Three years!
Sherlock: A cricket bat?!
John: Three years and four psychiatrists!
Sherlock: ...Four?
John: ...I kept punching them!
Sherlock: Why?
John: They said you weren't real.
What Should Happen When John finds out Sherlock is still Alive
John: Three years.
Sherlock: You hit me with a cricket bat!
John: [he snorts] Three years!
Sherlock: A cricket bat?!
John: Three years and four psychiatrists!
Sherlock: ...Four?
John: ...I kept punching them!
Sherlock: Why?
John: They said you weren't real.
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Re: Doctor Who [5]
by Pettytyrant101 Mon Jun 10, 2013 7:37 pm
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Re: Doctor Who [5]
by Norc Mon Jun 10, 2013 9:34 pm
sure? i've read some really good ones, and by that i mean really visual... and loooong...
((like so long you just sit there and be like "cut the crap already and get to the porn!"))
((like so long you just sit there and be like "cut the crap already and get to the porn!"))
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Re: Doctor Who [5]
by Eldorion Mon Jun 10, 2013 9:35 pm
What makes you think I haven't already read them myself?
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