Critics review 'An Unexpected Journey'

I would have been totally cool with a little kid Aragorn cameo in Rivendell. I think that would have been a neat hat tip to fans of the trilogy without being obtrusive. Since they've already gone through Rivendell I don't see where to fit in Aragorn without displacing more of the original story, unless they film Bilbo's brief stop in Rivendell during the return journey.

That's just my opinion, of course. Believe it or not I would still like to see the Hobbit trilogy turn out as good as it can at this point.

Eldorion wrote:I would have been totally cool with a little kid Aragorn cameo in Rivendell.

wait for it... there is still the extended super-duper ultra appendix, fourthousand hours extra, blueray dvd-3D extra shit.

True, though I would have expected them to talk up that factor during production. Maybe it's being intended as a surprise. I can hope because I do think it would be nice, especially if he talks to Bilbo. Bilbo definitely needed more scenes in Rivendell.

'I've fantazised about having sex with that kid' -me at the movies, probably

Eldorion wrote:True, though I would have expected them to talk up that factor during production. Maybe it's being intended as a surprise. I can hope because I do think it would be nice, especially if he talks to Bilbo. Bilbo definitely needed more scenes in Rivendell.

yeah, i know, i missed the scene where he is awakened by party elves and asks them to shut the fuck up, whereas they reply his snoring is so loud he should be the one to shut the fuck up.

maybe he will be in one of those Easter egg thingies?

Maybe we'll get a Wizard of Oz-esque scene at the end where Sam is sitting in a chair concluding the story to a bunch of young hobbits. He'll say as the whole Fellowship walks in one by one," you were there and you were there..."
Though you'll have to buy the super ultra Middle Earth edition box set of the Hobbit and lotr for $150.00 to see it.

Norc wrote:

Eldorion wrote:True, though I would have expected them to talk up that factor during production. Maybe it's being intended as a surprise. I can hope because I do think it would be nice, especially if he talks to Bilbo. Bilbo definitely needed more scenes in Rivendell.

yeah, i know, i missed the scene where he is awakened by party elves and asks them to shut the fuck up, whereas they reply his snoring is so loud he should be the one to shut the fuck up.

I always appreciate the unique slant you put on things, Norc.

Eldorion wrote:I would have been totally cool with a little kid Aragorn cameo in Rivendell. I think that would have been a neat hat tip to fans of the trilogy without being obtrusive. Since they've already gone through Rivendell I don't see where to fit in Aragorn without displacing more of the original story, unless they film Bilbo's brief stop in Rivendell during the return journey.

That's just my opinion, of course. Believe it or not I would still like to see the Hobbit trilogy turn out as good as it can at this point.

If Aragorn was 95 in LoTR wouldn't he be a teenager in the Hobbit? They could have had Justin Bieber play him. Yep, that would work.

Edit: Okay, too lazy to check my dates. Maybe he was 70. Nonexistent in the Hobbit. That makes Justin Bieber even more perfect casting.

Edit of Edit: Umm, he was 87, making him 7 in TH. My Justin Bieber casting absolutely stuns me with its brilliance.

Going by the book, he was ten at the time of The Hobbit, but he would have been 27 in the altered movie timeline. It's unclear if PJ and company would have realized that implication of their changes, though.

Ten is a little too old for Bieber. Intellect is beginning to make an appearance.

halfwise wrote:

Norc wrote:

Eldorion wrote:True, though I would have expected them to talk up that factor during production. Maybe it's being intended as a surprise. I can hope because I do think it would be nice, especially if he talks to Bilbo. Bilbo definitely needed more scenes in Rivendell.

yeah, i know, i missed the scene where he is awakened by party elves and asks them to shut the fuck up, whereas they reply his snoring is so loud he should be the one to shut the fuck up.

I always appreciate the unique slant you put on things, Norc.

yes, Figg, maybe he'll be an easter egg, though... i was hoping for more

I don t know if anyone remebers but a survey lot poped by here and other forums to do a survey prior to TH.
The results are here-

http://www.waikato.ac.nz/fass/research/centres-units/aru/research-projects/hobbit-audience-project/summary-of-key-findings


I took part in it, I supsect my contribution comes in somewhere here-

'24 respondents expressed the opposite viewpoint and were highly critical of what they saw as the destructive aesthetic (and political) roles played by Peter Jackson in bringing the Lord of The Rings and The Hobbit to the big screen. This group was especially critical of the decision to make a trilogy, which they considered purely commercially driven, and they were not impressed by what they had seen and heard about the film so far in terms of additions and changes that diverged from Tolkien’s original vision. They believed technological innovations were likely to compromise the cinematic quality of The Hobbit, and expressed a lack of faith in Jackson’s creative efforts, while also rejecting the idea that no other director could do justice to The Hobbit. They lamented the damage done to the Tolkien corpus by what they saw as an immature and artistically tone-deaf director catering to the lowest common denominator.'

"an immature and artistically tone-deaf director catering to the lowest common denominator"

I might get that on a t-shirt.

I agree with everythign said there in regards to TH, but not necessarily LOTR.
It's like when you're randomly doodling and you make a really awesome picture, then you try to draw it again and it just looks crappy. LOTR was the cool drawing, TH was the attempt at recreating that spark of creative genius.
And as my directing teacher says, "Always direct to the smartest person in the room."

Looks like they've updated the page.

Finally, one single fan reported an abnormal level of hatred (which scientists have termed "crabbit) for all of Peter Jackson's cinematic interpretations of Middle-earth. This individual believed that Peter Jackson was a malevolent influence on the world sent by "Morgoth" to destroy all that is good and pure. This individual was extremely critical of every single aspect of the film project, without exception. He believed that Peter Jackson was singularly incapable of producing a fitting or faithful adaptation of the book. This individual was a Scottish male, which is believed to have been the decisive factor in his attitude. When asked by the survey if he had any final comments, this individual wrote several death threats against Peter Jackson and other members of the production team. We have informed the appropriate authorities.

Damn right! {{{{ }}}}

PLEASE tell me this is real!!!!

You could easily think it was!

Awesome survey results.
I've always wanted to know just how I'd be neatly labelled into Jackson's fan base - Angry anti-fan is as good a title as any I suppose.

Eldorion wrote:Looks like they've updated the page.

Finally, one single fan reported an abnormal level of hatred (which scientists have termed "crabbit) for all of Peter Jackson's cinematic interpretations of Middle-earth. This individual believed that Peter Jackson was a malevolent influence on the world sent by "Morgoth" to destroy all that is good and pure. This individual was extremely critical of every single aspect of the film project, without exception. He believed that Peter Jackson was singularly incapable of producing a fitting or faithful adaptation of the book. This individual was a Scottish male, which is believed to have been the decisive factor in his attitude. When asked by the survey if he had any final comments, this individual wrote several death threats against Peter Jackson and other members of the production team. We have informed the appropriate authorities.

i hope this is real.

Recoveryanonymous wrote:Awesome survey results.
I've always wanted to know just how I'd be neatly labelled into Jackson's fan base - Angry anti-fan is as good a title as any I suppose.

Celebrity lovers, alongside me darling

Awesome. I took part in the survey as well. I noticed you lot put a spin on things by not telling us the largest Group were fans of LOTR and PJ.

1) Lord of the Rings Enthusiasts

The largest group of 348 respondents comprised enthusiastic and eager Lord of the Rings fans who expressed faith in Peter Jackson’s genius as a gifted filmmaker, and affirmed his unique ability to do justice to the complex story world of The Hobbit. This group expressed a high level of anticipation for this film, which they’d been waiting many years for, and eagerly looked forward to returning to the wonderful world of Middle Earth. They believed that Peter Jackson's fundamental motivation in making another trilogy was creative rather than financial, and that the Tolkien corpus was so extensive that there was easily enough material to justify extending The Hobbit. This group had considerable Tolkien literacy (having read The Hobbit on average 8 times) and special affinity for Jackson's film adaptations of Tolkien's work, having seen the LoTR films on average 19 times. 92.5% of these respondents said it was "extremely" or "very important to see the Hobbit films.

It wil be interesting to see how much that figure changes once they publish results for the survey from after we'd seen the film.