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Post by Eldorion Tue Jan 20, 2015 12:43 am

I dunno, I think MrCere did a reasonable job of presenting a balanced look at the Oscar situation and while he acknowledged his own biases, he didn't let it dominate the the piece.  Some fanboys will always throw temper tantrums over the Oscars (the Avatar fans in January 2010 were insufferable, and especially bizarre since there was no such thing as an Avatar fan like a month earlier), but I don't see any of that in this piece.

I have only seen three of the nominated films, so I can't really comment on whether BOFA was better than any of them, but as a layman, I didn't walk out of X-Men: DOFP or GOTG thinking that it was a masterpiece of VFX work, even though I enjoyed both films and they had good craftsmanship.
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Post by bungobaggins Tue Jan 20, 2015 5:15 am

I thought the work WETA did on Caesar in the most recent Apes movie blew all their previous work on Gollum out of the water. And sitting in the theater I could have sworn that the orangutan was real.

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Post by malickfan Tue Jan 20, 2015 7:31 pm

bungobaggins wrote:I thought the work WETA did on Caesar in the most recent Apes movie blew all their previous work on Gollum out of the water. And sitting in the theater I could have sworn that the orangutan was real.

Agreed, Apes was really impressive, though I still have a soft spot for the old Prosthetics.

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Post by RA Mon Jan 26, 2015 5:48 am

Mrs Figg wrote:ok now and again RA could give a good twinkle but that's not enough for an award.

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Post by RA Mon Jan 26, 2015 5:50 am

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I don't get why people on TORn are upset in his recent interview Jackson said he had no regrets about how the films turned out, by his own admission then it's his fault they weren't nominated Laughing

Yeah, I don't feel bad about it. Jackson certainly baited people by saying that he was just trying to make prequels to his film trilogy. It turns out, it was a poor artistic choice to try and make the Hobbit, a humble story, outdo Lotr which is far grander in scale.

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Post by Eldorion Sat Jan 31, 2015 3:04 am

bungobaggins wrote:I thought the work WETA did on Caesar in the most recent Apes movie blew all their previous work on Gollum out of the water. And sitting in the theater I could have sworn that the orangutan was real.

I thought their work in the first Apes movie was pretty phenomenal already, so I'm even more intrigued by the sequel now. It is really impressive how far Weta has come since LOTR, though obviously those effects were phenomenal for their time and remained better than almost everything for a good 5-6 years after ROTK. I wonder if their current VFX will age as quickly or if CGI is around the point of reaching more or less complete photorealism.
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Post by bungobaggins Sat Jan 31, 2015 3:56 am

I think these effects will hold up, well most of them at least.


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Post by Bluebottle Sat Jan 31, 2015 4:20 pm

After the Hobbit one would think that question would be answered with a resounding no, but I guess it's less than fair to judge the movie industry as a whole on the basis of the Hobbit. Though I guess in hindsight it will be seen as the vehicle for a lot of failed technological ambition.

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Post by Pettytyrant101 Sun Feb 01, 2015 2:15 pm

I wonder if their current VFX will age as quickly or if CGI is around the point of reaching more or less complete photorealism.- Eldo

I thought if TH films showed anything it was how far away cgi of that type is to photo-realistic- where I think cgi works at its best is supplementing the frame- a scifi with distant buildings, ships taking of for landing,or in fantasy distant mountains, castles, cities ect- when its does it that way, in much the way classic matte painting was used I think it can be photo-realistic, but when its done like TH was it does not look at all realistic.

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Post by Mrs Figg Sun Feb 01, 2015 2:57 pm

''a scifi with distant buildings, ships taking of for landing,or in fantasy distant mountains, castles, cities ect- when its does it that way, in much the way classic matte painting was used I think it can be photo-realistic, but when its done like TH was it does not look at all realistic.'' Petty

GOT is proof of that. Nod its got the right balance, real stuff in the foreground, cgi in the distance.
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Post by Eldorion Sun Feb 01, 2015 3:09 pm

TH isn't really the best example of the cutting edge of of modern VFX. I do agree that CGI works best as a supplement, but fully CGI characters have come a long way in the past 15 years (which is not to diminish how impressive they were when they started).
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Post by bungobaggins Sun Feb 22, 2015 4:02 pm

Bing predicts the oscar results.

http://www.bing.com/search?q=Oscars%202015&FORM=ML12EW&CREA=ML12EW&wt.mc_id=ML12EW&rnoreward=1

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Post by Eldorion Sun Feb 22, 2015 4:10 pm

The Hobbit: 12% chance of winning for Best Sound Design.

Sounds about right.
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Post by bungobaggins Sun Feb 22, 2015 4:14 pm

Remember when the academy was going to save all the nominations and wins for the last hobbit movie?

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Post by Eldorion Sun Feb 22, 2015 5:31 pm

Just like they were gonna do with Harry Potter. Rolling Eyes
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Post by Norc Sun Feb 22, 2015 5:55 pm

Where can u watch the Oscars ?
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Post by malickfan Sun Feb 22, 2015 6:00 pm

Eldorion wrote:Just like they were gonna do with Harry Potter. Rolling Eyes

As far as I can remember the only nomination the franchise got was Cinematography for HBP, I remember there was a campaign by some of the fans to get Rickman a nomination for DH2.

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Post by malickfan Sun Feb 22, 2015 6:04 pm

Norc wrote:Where can u watch the Oscars ?

Hi Norc nice to see you pop in Wave

The Oscars have an official Youtube channel, I've watched the awards before (well, part of them at least I can never sit through the entire show) on youtube, but I'm not sure if it would be posted the same day or not

https://www.youtube.com/user/Oscars

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The show will air simultaneously on Nine Network in Australia, Channel 7 in Belize, CTV in Canada, STAR Movies in India, RTÉ in Ireland, STAR Movies and HBO in Malaysia, SKY Movies in New Zealand, Velvet in the Philippines, HBO in Singapore, Dstv in South Africa, CCN TV6 in Trinidad and Tobago, and Sky Movies Oscars in the United Kingdom and Ireland

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Post by Mrs Figg Sun Feb 22, 2015 7:51 pm

I hope Interstellar gets loads of awards. Very Happy  whats this Birdman film? has anyone seen it? it looks intriguing.

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Post by bungobaggins Sun Feb 22, 2015 8:20 pm

Birdman is really good. You should watch it.

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Post by Mrs Figg Sun Feb 22, 2015 8:25 pm

yeah I cant believe I missed this film. it came out last year I believe.
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Post by Eldorion Sun Feb 22, 2015 9:15 pm

malickfan wrote:As far as I can remember the only nomination the franchise got was Cinematography for HBP, I remember there was a campaign by some of the fans to get Rickman a nomination for DH2.

HP picked up a respectable number of nominations over the years.  COS and OOTP were the only ones to not be nominated for anything.  None of them ever won though.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Potter_%28film_series%29#Accolades

I liked Rickman in DH2 but I'd have to think on it for a while if I'd rank call him one of the best of the year.  His performance throughout the entire series is more than the sum of its parts, I think.
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Post by Mrs Figg Sun Feb 22, 2015 9:48 pm

for me its hard to pick out which actor in HP I would give an Oscar to. They are mostly all played by wonderful character actors, each one a classic performance, how could anyone choose between Hagrid, McGonagall, Snape, or Mr Weasley, for example. they are all equally brilliant. Its like who do you choose in LOTR, all of them being brilliant. its impossible.
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Post by halfwise Sun Feb 22, 2015 10:12 pm

Orlando Bloom wasn't brilliant. He was much better in later films he did, where, granted, he was given more interesting characters.

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