A Song of Ice and Fire

Have you read the books Norc? There's some definitely evil people there, though I'm not sure there's any definitely good ones. It's more black and grey than black and white.

yeah, that was what i meant

robb was

I think Carly's right, nearly all the Starks were good in an almost pure sense....which is why GRRM killed them. (or twisted them, as happened to Catelyn after her near death experience).

Eldorion wrote: It's more black and grey than black and white.

Are there any browns? Just curious...

CC12 35 wrote:still haven't seen s2

I havn't either. Comes out March 3rd on blu-ray. Can't wait

cant wait for season 3, that last episode of season 2 was amazing specially the last 20 minutes or so. brilliant and 100 times scarier than TH.

dont worry I wont say any more.

i am in the middle sort of of season 2

haven't read the book, no

This is one of the few cases where the books and films are pretty close. Of course you miss out on some things, but the flavor is very similar.

I could never get into the TV series but the first three books are some of the finest fantasy I've ever read. Sadly I'm not sure the series is going to live up to those in the end. I hope that the TV series will at least be able to fix some of the pacing problems from the post-Storm of Swords books.

Kind of odd you couldn't get into the TV series, any speculation why? Less literary feeling?

I'm sure the pacing will be less of an issue, even if they follow the books due to the episodic nature of TV.

Arg, I hate it when you reply to something just to find your reply is on the next page and NOT right below what you replied to!

the tv series was a slow burn for me, I wasnt much impressed by the 1st few episodes, but gradually by the end ofthe 2nd series I was hooked.

the book is similar, but it's more like 1/3 of the way through the book before you're addicted.

halfwise wrote:Kind of odd you couldn't get into the TV series, any speculation why? Less literary feeling?

I'm sure the pacing will be less of an issue, even if they follow the books due to the episodic nature of TV.

Part of it's because I don't care for watching stuff week-to-week. I did watch the first three episodes on HBO as they aired, but I had mixed feelings about them and after I feel behind I didn't have enough interest to catch up with the show again. I wasn't watching much TV at all during that time though, which may have played a role. Still, I tried getting back into the series a number of months later and it just felt off. Part of it was that all the swearing and nudity felt less like a reasonable adaptation of the book and more like typical HBO pandering, which was distracting. I also didn't care for a number of the actors, although Peter Dinklage was brilliant.

I hear the second season is better but I haven't watched any of that.

Part of it was that all the swearing and nudity felt less like a reasonable adaptation of the book and more like typical HBO pandering, which was distracting.

what planet are you from?

the series is great, though, you should totally watch it. Norwayan guy in it in season 3

A planet where people don't like pandering.

And I've watched most of the first season (with a gap of several months in the middle) and it just didn't get me that interested. There are a lot of series much higher on my backlog.

I agree, the gratuitous sex scenes get a bit boring after a while.

well, i can agree about the pandering, but! hold on. the story is really great and well.... some of it i don't want to watch with parents, but! there is hardly any sex-scenes ( ) in season two.. i mean

How disappointing