Re: All New Who

by Pettytyrant101 Sun Jul 02, 2017 3:39 pm

by Mrs Figg Sun Jul 02, 2017 4:20 pm

do we know who the new who is?

by Pettytyrant101 Sun Jul 02, 2017 4:33 pm

by malickfan Sun Jul 02, 2017 7:20 pm

Pettytyrant101 wrote:{{{ Learned a new lesson today- if you are going to watch a Moffat finale in VR to get the big screen treatment, try not to cry inside the headset!

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You said it better than I could, more or less agree with you points.

Overall a very strong story, anchored by great performances all round (why

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lots of nice character dialogue/interplay

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and great direction from Talalay, the episode did feel to me like it took an abrupt shift in tone in the last 15 minutes...not saying it was bad, just wasn't what I was expecting and I can't make my mind up how much I liked

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...also raises the question as to what happens to Nardole

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, great little arc he had though from eccentric rogue and reluctant man servant to trusty hero.

The Christmas Special looks set to be interesting!

by malickfan Sun Jul 02, 2017 7:23 pm

Mrs Figg wrote:do we know who the new who is?

Lots of people on Gallifreybase claim to have 'sources' in the BBC, various names have been chucked about but few sound very interesting or convincing, most of the rumours so far point to the BBC wanting some bland 35 year old Tennant knock off, but I'm hoping for something a bit more interesting, not even sure if I'll bother watching Series 11, enjoyed the Capaldi episodes so much I kind of feel like I've already had my era of Who and Chibnall's past Who/Torchwood work doesn't fill me with much confidence.

Series 11 is currently rumored to be start filming in November but I'd assume we'd know the identity of the 13th Doctor before then.

by malickfan Sun Jul 02, 2017 7:28 pm

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by Pettytyrant101 Sun Jul 02, 2017 7:31 pm

{{Regards

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by malickfan Sun Jul 02, 2017 7:49 pm

Pettytyrant101 wrote:{{Regards
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On that topic, it was left quite vague if Missy directly followed Simm's Master (yes she claimed to have succeeded him but she might have been lying or wiped her memory or something), half expecting BF to invent a new Master for Smith's Doctor if/when he joins Big Finish...speaking of which...get on the phone to Capaldi's agent ASAP Nick Briggs! There's tonnes of room for new audio stories with the 12th Doctor and I think Capaldi would definitively consider doing some...

by malickfan Sun Jul 02, 2017 7:50 pm

Kinda weird that Nardole has turned into one of my favourite companions when he essentially serves as a more sarcastic version of K9.

by **Amarië** Sun Jul 02, 2017 9:29 pm

Pettytyrant101 wrote:{{Cant you take it with you Amarie? }}

We would have, but we left on Friday...

by Bluebottle Mon Jul 03, 2017 12:09 am

malickfan wrote:Kinda weird that Nardole has turned into one of my favourite companions when he essentially serves as a more sarcastic version of K9.

Hey, I always liked K9 Very Happy

by Forest Shepherd Mon Jul 03, 2017 6:31 am

Me too, he's good fun. I like when he and the doctor play chess. Is that something Nardole has done?

by Mrs Figg Tue Jul 04, 2017 12:27 am

such a shame no more Moffat Wars, its the end of an era.

by malickfan Tue Jul 04, 2017 8:41 am

Petty, my Big Finish collection grows ever larger, nearly 200 titles listed on my account (mix of CD's and downloads) some of which are boxsets, so I probably have 250+ stories with several more pre-ordered.

And that's barely scratching the surface of their back catalog!:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Doctor_Who_audio_plays_by_Big_Finish

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Doctor_Who_spin_off_audio_plays_by_Big_Finish

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Coupled with the various BBC Audio releases I wouldn't be surprised if there is 10 times more audio than visual Doctor Who, add in all the novels, short stories, comics and videogames and it maybe rivals Star Wars for most spinoff/extended universe stories...

by malickfan Tue Jul 04, 2017 9:03 am

Bluebottle wrote:
malickfan wrote:Kinda weird that Nardole has turned into one of my favourite companions when he essentially serves as a more sarcastic version of K9.

Hey, I always liked K9

I did too, but he was mostly a supporting plot device with unintentional humour, Nardole is great in a similar way-he's a sarcastic alien cyborg with a odd sense of humour and mysterious backstory and mainly stays in the background, he enhances the Doctor/Bill partnership by acting as the third party, he was great in the Xmas special when it was just him and Capaldi but he worked even better in Series 10 because the oddness of his character stuck out more.

Nardole is tie with Donna as my favourite New Who companion, I hope Lucas and Capaldi do some Big Finish audios eventually...

by malickfan Tue Jul 04, 2017 9:05 am

Forest Shepherd wrote:Me too, he's good fun. I like when he and the doctor play chess. Is that something Nardole has done?

No, but judging by Nardole's frequent and rambling stories of past adventures he has quite a odd and shady past:

http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Nardole

Maybe he was a chess player atone point as well...

by Pettytyrant101 Tue Jul 04, 2017 11:34 am

{{{You've more than doubled my BF list Malick. Shocked

I'm way behind- especially on the newer stuff- the River and War Doctor box set. Last one I bought was the classic Doctors 50th special I think }}}

by malickfan Tue Jul 04, 2017 8:39 pm

Pettytyrant101 wrote:{{{You've more than doubled my BF list Malick. I'm way behind- especially on the newer stuff- the River and War Doctor box set. Last one I bought was the classic Doctors 50th special I think }}}

I have the all the River and War Doctor sets Razz

Plus:

Every 8th Doctor story
All the Novel adaptations
About half the lost stories
A scattering of random 5th/6th/7th Doctor stories
A few short trips and companion chronicles
The first 10th Doctor set
Tom Baker's first series
The 50th Anniversary story they did
And a few other odds and ends.

And that's maybe 10% of their Who stories Shocked

Finding time to listen to all of it (not to mention storing the CD's) can prove to be a hard though...

Around 90% of which was bought on sale, or pre-order pricing, I remember someone calculated on a different forum BF's entire catalogue of Who related stories would cost around £6000 at full price Shocked

, and that was about three or four years ago, and many of BF's customers are die hard fans who buy physical CD copies of everything how they afford/manage to store all of it I don't know...and I'd be very surprised if BF's staff had actually heard all the stories themselves...

(Needless to say if/when they get the rights to the 12th Doctor and can persuade Capaldi to return, I'll be first in line to pre-order them Nod

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(on the other hand I own only 2 Doctor Who DVD's Laughing

I'm weird)

by Pettytyrant101 Tue Jul 04, 2017 11:34 pm

{{Ive all 8's stuff except for anything released in the last 2-3 years. Got the Lost Years. A handful of audio novels, mainly read by Tom Baker. I, Davros and about half the short trips series and the 50th special.
On the otherhand I can proudly say I dont have any 10th Doctor at all! (well excepting the 50th ep).
In terms of DVD I have the complete Moffat era to date and my second drive is full of classic eps Very Happy

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by Mrs Figg Thu Jul 06, 2017 6:29 pm

I heard the next Doctor is a woman. Phoebe Waller Bridge.

by Pettytyrant101 Thu Jul 06, 2017 7:19 pm

{{Moffat teased the idea a couple of times in the finale episode- Master- Is the future going to be all girl? Doctor -We can but hope.

Some rambling thoughts on the 1st Doctor, seeing as he is topical again!

Now if I were to describe negative characteristics of the 1st Doctor I may say he was a bit grumpy, curmudgeonly, arrogant, fussy, stubborn, set in his ways, overly confident, deceitful and lacking in empathy for other species.
Now to this of course you have to add his growing compassion, kindness, sense of fun and adventure, childish delight in new things and new life and his willingness to learn and change, even self sacrifice. But those as it were are his 'Doctorish' traits.

Lets take a look again at the negative list- grumpy, curmudgeonly, arrogant, fussy, stubborn, set in his ways, overly confident, deceitful and lacking in empathy for other species.
I contend those are essentially the defining characteristics of Time Lords as a people - I say people because Gallifreyians are the race and we know even less about the common folk of Galllifrey than we do the ruling Time Lord caste.

Time Lords of course never existed during the period of the First Doctor in the minds of the writers. The name 'Time Lords' would not make its appearance until the 2nd Doctor. All we knew of the 1st was that he had been exiled from his home world with his grand-daughter for reasons unknown (and which remain to this day unknown). Who his people were, the name of his home planet were a complete mystery.
And yet the Time Lords as they became more fully formed and particularly from the era of the 4th Doctor onward are basically extrapolated from the personality of the first Doctor. Its a bit like reverse stereotyping. One Time Lord's personality traits have been extrapolatiated out to be the dominant traits of the entire people.

The other thing about the personality traits of the 1st Doctor is if you list good and bad together- a bit grumpy, curmudgeonly, arrogant, fussy, stubborn, set in his ways, overly confident, deceitful and lacking in empathy for other species, but has compassion, kindness, a sense of fun and adventure, childish delight in new things and new life and a willingness to learn and change, even self sacrifice- it is of course also a description of the 12th Doctor and every one in-between. They are the underlying personality traits that never go away, just different aspects get more or less emphasis in different regeneration. But the basic 1st Doctor template always remains underneath every new personality and every new actors take on the role. So in theory it should make no difference if the Doctor is portrayed by a man or a woman so long as the template is in place underpinning the performance and writing.}}}

by Pettytyrant101 Fri Jul 07, 2017 1:03 am

{{Some lovely Missy vids doing the rounds just now here is just 2 favourites. One more serious the other more humorous- spoiler filled for the series 10 finale}}

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by Pettytyrant101 Sun Jul 09, 2017 1:34 am

{{{12 tribute- full of spoilers- I am so not ready for 12 to go! Crying or Very sad

Of the Nuwho Doctors 12 is definitely my Doctor. }}}

by malickfan Sun Jul 09, 2017 4:31 pm

Capaldi really is a incredible actor, his stories may have got mixed reaction but I've never seen a bad word about his Doctor, absolutely not ready to see him go Sad

I've enjoyed the last three series so much I'm not even sure if I'll bother watching the next series, especially given the rumours the BBC want some bland Tennant knockoff as 13 and a return to the cheesy romance nonsense

by malickfan Sun Jul 09, 2017 4:35 pm

Pettytyrant101 wrote:{{{12 tribute- full of spoilers- I am so not ready for 12 to go! Of the Nuwho Doctors 12 is definitely my Doctor. }}}

McGann is my Doctor because of Big Finish (and the 8th Doctor novels) but Capaldi is easily my second favourite Doctor, such a great actor, lots of good stories, and one of the few Doctors to actually get meaningful character development from haunted pragmatist learning to love himself again, to aged rockstar having fun through to kooky but moral professor trying to help the little people.

I'm tempted to say the last three series have been my favourite since the Phillip Hincliffe/tom Baker seasons.

Really, really hoping he does Big Finish audios someday