Star Wars [2]

Eldorion wrote: Fun times.

You put alot of thought into those responses Eldo , though it always surprises me that you find these long winded back and forth debates we have 'fun' rather than tedious

Well I mean, if you find them tedious, then you're under no obligation to keep it carrying on with me. But I do genuinely enjoy discussions like this, especially with you.

Eldorion wrote:The cool suit of armor (and sense of mystique that comes from knowing almost nothing about him before the prequels) is basically the entire reason why he's popular. Same with Darth Maul and (possibly, we'll see how it plays out) Captain Phasma.

I think the same holds true for Vader, I never found him that interesting to be honest

The complaints about Phasma make me laugh, there was literally nothing (as far I read things anyway) in the marketing for TFA that suggested she was a major player (indeed the actress looking faintly bewildered/surprised to be included in some of the press junkets), I think some went in caught up in their own hype about the character 'Oooh look she's wearing a chrome suit and she's from GOT, she must be important' when Abrams himself implied she was written in very late in the day (presumably for Disney to base a line of action figures around) as a set up character for Ep 8.

It was lazy writing that she lowered the Starkiller shields for Han and co...but I can't help but be pleased a bad guy actually had the cowardice/arrogance to put their life before their ideology for once...

Eldorion wrote: Well I mean, if you find them tedious, then you're under no obligation to keep it carrying on with me.

Ha, yeah that's true

I too find them fun/thought provoking alot of the time...you would have been putting in a little too much effort if you were just humoring me...

if they were released today I don't think they would have been held up as high.- Malick


Timing is everything.

I saw the original SW on release in my local cinema. I was 7 years old but had by then read the Hobbit, Narnia series, a stack of Who books, and grown up watching Who and classic ST- got my Dad to thank for that one as he was a fan of it. So I knew a good story when I hear done, and even at 7 I could see the obvious fantasy tropes dressed up.
It was never the story that sold or made SW. It was the presentation. That was what was new. This was sci-fi which looked on the screen like it looked in your head. Everything else your imagination had to in the gaps, flesh out the inadequacies, you knew it was all fake and usually obviously so and choose to go along with it.
When that opening shot rolled on the screen and the freighter then the Star Destroyer pass the camera it looked and felt right, it looked real compared to all that came before, you didnt have to just go with it, you believed it- and it just kept on doing it- Tattoine, the Canteena, the Falcon- it wasn't that the story, characters or scifi were new- they couldn't be, they had to be familiar or everything else would swamp it, it was how it was all packaged that was new.

That's the thing with watching stuff out of their place and time- you can appreciate much about them, but you can never recreate that feel of seeing something completely new to the world or how and why that had such an effect on audiences.

exactly. It was a quantum leap forward in looks, but it had a good story and characters as well. Compare to Avatar which was another quantum leap in looks, but the rest was somewhat yawn inducing. Sure, Avatar made a buttload of money due to the looks, but people didn't feel like their lives were suddenly different. Star Wars did that.

Snoke is Kylo Ren from the future.

That's a really cool GIF.

malickfan wrote:

PORKINS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

^ the finest starpilot in the galaxy

I bought the book of Force Awakens today. Will let you know how it goes!

Petty - going back to your comments about 5 pages ago, Rey kept hold of the droid because Plutt (the trader) was desperate to get hold of it and she hated him. She did it to spite him and because there was something more to it than she thought. Have to watch the film again to see if that is obvious or not, but that is what the book says!

Sure there was something else in in your review that the book answered but can't think of it right now.

{{{Cheers Lance- was going to ask you about those issues- and wondered if the writers had picked up on similar holes that needed some explanation as I had in my review- keep us posted on other such incidents please }}}

The thing where she happened to hear the droid nearby is still there... just a random act of right place right time it seems, but she saved the droid because the Teedo that was trying to capture it was rude to her and so she freed BB8.

{{Rude to it! What I dont get is why it didn't just shoot her when she came along and tried to take it- random unowned droids are surely finders keepers- and given how much it was worth to others on that planet surely worth putting up a fight over?}}}}

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