Hungry Hobbit fights back
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Hungry Hobbit fights back
A couple of years ago the Hungry Hobbit cafe, just across the road from Sarehole Mill, was ordered to change its name, or pay a fee, by the Saul Zaentz Company - even though the cafe had been using the term "Hobbit" before the company had registered it as a trademark. Furthermore, the term "hobbit" appears in The Denham Tracts in 1895, and wasn't invented by Tolkien anyway.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-17383704
I went in there yesterday for an all-day breakfast (scroll down for a pic of what it comprises) and asked what became of this matter, since they haven't changed their name. They told me that they obtained some legal representation and the issue was dropped.
http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/whats-on/food-drink-news/odd-bite-hungry-hobbit-moseley-6403708
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-17383704
I went in there yesterday for an all-day breakfast (scroll down for a pic of what it comprises) and asked what became of this matter, since they haven't changed their name. They told me that they obtained some legal representation and the issue was dropped.
http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/whats-on/food-drink-news/odd-bite-hungry-hobbit-moseley-6403708
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The word hobbit preceded Tolkien? I wonder if he had happened upon the word and it stuck in his subconcious?
Edit: I changed 'place' to 'word' because the word appeared in dernham tracts (whatever that really means) long before the cafe itself opened, which I assume is after Tolkien was long gone.
Edit: I changed 'place' to 'word' because the word appeared in dernham tracts (whatever that really means) long before the cafe itself opened, which I assume is after Tolkien was long gone.
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halfwise wrote:The word hobbit preceded Tolkien? I wonder if he had happened upon the place and it stuck in his subconcious?
I think there's a very good chance of that.
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Ah, Wikipedia explains the Denham Tracts as a series of pamphlets on local folklore, so it is indeed very possible Tolkien read it. 'Hobbit' was the name of a fairy.
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What a happiness this must have been seventy or eighty years ago and upwards, to those chosen few who had the good luck to be born on the eve of this festival of all festivals; when the whole earth was so overrun with ghosts, boggles, bloody-bones, spirits, demons, ignis fatui, brownies, bugbears, black dogs, specters, shellycoats, scarecrows, witches, wizards, barguests, Robin-Goodfellows, hags, night-bats, scrags, breaknecks, fantasms, hobgoblins, hobhoulards, boggy-boes, dobbies, hob-thrusts, fetches, kelpies, warlocks, mock-beggars, mum-pokers, Jemmy-burties, urchins, satyrs, pans, fauns, sirens, tritons, centaurs, calcars, nymphs, imps, incubuses, spoorns, men-in-the-oak, hell-wains, fire-drakes, kit-a-can-sticks, Tom-tumblers, melch-dicks, larrs, kitty-witches, hobby-lanthorns, Dick-a-Tuesdays, Elf-fires, Gyl-burnt-tales, knockers, elves, rawheads, Meg-with-the-wads, old-shocks, ouphs, pad-foots, pixies, pictrees, giants, dwarfs, Tom-pokers, tutgots, snapdragons, sprets, spunks, conjurers, thurses, spurns, tantarrabobs, swaithes, tints, tod-lowries, Jack-in-the-Wads, mormos, changelings, redcaps, yeth-hounds, colt-pixies, Tom-thumbs, black-bugs, boggarts, scar-bugs, shag-foals, hodge-pochers, hob-thrushes, bugs, bull-beggars, bygorns, bolls, caddies, bomen, brags, wraiths, waffs, flay-boggarts, fiends, gallytrots, imps, gytrashes, patches, hob-and-lanthorns, gringes, boguests, bonelesses, Peg-powlers, pucks, fays, kidnappers, gallybeggars, hudskins, nickers, madcaps, trolls, robinets, friars' lanthorns, silkies, cauld-lads, death-hearses, goblins, hob-headlesses, bugaboos, kows, or cowes, nickies, nacks [necks], waiths, miffies, buckies, ghouls, sylphs, guests, swarths, freiths, freits, gy-carlins [Gyre-carling], pigmies, chittifaces, nixies, Jinny-burnt-tails, dudmen, hell-hounds, dopple-gangers, boggleboes, bogies, redmen, portunes, grants, hobbits, hobgoblins, brown-men, cowies, dunnies, wirrikows, alholdes, mannikins, follets, korreds, lubberkins, cluricauns, kobolds, leprechauns, kors, mares, korreds, puckles korigans, sylvans, succubuses, blackmen, shadows, banshees, lian-hanshees, clabbernappers, Gabriel-hounds, mawkins, doubles, corpse lights or candles, scrats, mahounds, trows, gnomes, sprites, fates, fiends, sibyls, nicknevins, whitewomen, fairies, thrummy-caps, cutties, and nisses, and apparitions of every shape, make, form, fashion, kind and description, that there was not a village in England that had not its own peculiar ghost.
http://www.pitt.edu/~dash/bump.html#ghosts
http://www.pitt.edu/~dash/bump.html#ghosts
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What a great collection of names!
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Oh look, there is even nisse there, right at the very end.
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great breakfast that looks good
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Yup just what I was thinking Figg- thats a hobbit breakfast right there!
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'maters and untoasted white bread with margarine? I think Tolkien knew better than to put in tomatoes, even if he couldn't resist potatoes. Though they ate white cakes, white bread doesn't seem very hobbit like (more Elven). The mustard yellow margarine has to go under any circumstances.
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They do a roaring trade during the Middle-earth weekend at the mill. Unfortunately, it was cancelled this year - it would have been this weekend. It'll be back next year though.
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Zaentz is the asshole who wanted to trademark the word "shire", too. There was a big brouhaha about this in the blogosphere in 2012, but he's been trying to take ownership of that word for ages. Most of his attempts have been shot down by officials who are presumably better versed in the history of the English language than Mr Zaentz.
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Or basic geography, geez. Everywhere and its mother is named blank-shire over in England.
Geez, that list reads like a D&D Monster Manual!
Geez, that list reads like a D&D Monster Manual!
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