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Cgi Bolg
by Johnnyd Mon Dec 09, 2013 9:59 pm
This was the old Bolg they was going used before the change it to cgi.
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Re: Cgi Bolg
by Pettytyrant101 Mon Dec 09, 2013 10:01 pm
So he is just Azog with a big black hand print on his face- presumably to be vaguely reminiscent of the big white hand on the Uruks - even though that was Sarumans symbol 
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Re: Cgi Bolg
by Radaghast Mon Dec 09, 2013 10:13 pm
The mark on his face can almost be construed as a dragon 
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Re: Cgi Bolg
by Eldorion Mon Dec 09, 2013 10:20 pm
Hi Johnny, I made your images inlined so people can see them easily. 
I've got to be honest, I've always thought the original Bolg design was horrible and jarringly out of place with the rest of the film. So even though I wish they'd stuck with prosthetics in general, I don't miss this particular design.
I've got to be honest, I've always thought the original Bolg design was horrible and jarringly out of place with the rest of the film. So even though I wish they'd stuck with prosthetics in general, I don't miss this particular design.
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Re: Cgi Bolg
by Eldorion Mon Dec 09, 2013 10:20 pm
Pettytyrant101 wrote:So he is just Azog with a big black hand print on his face- presumably to be vaguely reminiscent of the big white hand on the Uruks - even though that was Sarumans symbol
Doesn't look like a handprint to me; pretty sure it's metal bands holding his head together (similar to the non-CGI design).
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Re: Cgi Bolg
by halfwise Mon Dec 09, 2013 10:49 pm
Mrs Figg wrote:He looks like the Cowardly Lion gone Mad Max
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Re: Cgi Bolg
by RA Mon Dec 09, 2013 11:09 pm
We've really gone down the rabbit hole, haven't we? 
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Re: Cgi Bolg
by Forest Shepherd Tue Dec 10, 2013 2:25 am
He looks like something you'd find in your cat's litter box.
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Re: Cgi Bolg
by bungobaggins Tue Dec 10, 2013 2:44 am
Bolg Shmolg! Ass-hob is clearly the real villain of the books and movies! /s
Eh, I liked the first design. I didn't find it particularly frightening (I never found PJ's orc/goblin/uruk designs to be remotely scary.)
The new design will just blend in well with all the fakey fake stuff.
In that gif Johnny posted, I don't think any of that is real.
Eh, I liked the first design. I didn't find it particularly frightening (I never found PJ's orc/goblin/uruk designs to be remotely scary.)
The new design will just blend in well with all the fakey fake stuff.
In that gif Johnny posted, I don't think any of that is real.
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Re: Cgi Bolg
by bungobaggins Tue Dec 10, 2013 2:45 am
Peter Jackson just needs to make video games. Someone needs to keep him away from movies.
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Re: Cgi Bolg
by Eldorion Tue Dec 10, 2013 3:44 am
bungobaggins wrote:Peter Jackson just needs to make video games. Someone needs to keep him away from movies.
He was supposed to be working on a Halo spin-off game, but that came to the same fate as the Halo movie.
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Re: Cgi Bolg
by Sinister71 Tue Dec 10, 2013 3:50 am
So wheres the picture of the "new and improved" Bolg? All I see is the picture of Conan Stevens as Bolg/ Azog/ whatever character he has been changed to this week 
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Re: Cgi Bolg
by Eldorion Tue Dec 10, 2013 3:52 am
The dude in the GIF at the top of the thread is Bolg. Azog is this guy (note the lack of metal shit on his face):
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Re: Cgi Bolg
by Sinister71 Tue Dec 10, 2013 3:56 am
only thing I am seeing is the pic at the top of the thread which looks like the old Conan Stevens version of Bolg. Maybe I'm going blind or something 
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Re: Cgi Bolg
by Radaghast Tue Dec 10, 2013 3:58 am
The old Bolg looks kind of gross but also pretty bad-ass as well. That war club is fairly wicked as well. Don't know what's up with his face; like something gnawed at it.
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Re: Cgi Bolg
by Sinister71 Tue Dec 10, 2013 4:00 am
ok had to copy and paste from the original thread to see it but yeah it looks like the strapping that is holding Bolg's head together to me. Not a fan of the whole fake looking CGI characters I must say.
https://2img.net/h/s29.postimg.cc/np531osf9/Bolg.gif
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Re: Cgi Bolg
by Eldorion Tue Dec 10, 2013 4:00 am
Sinister71 wrote:only thing I am seeing is the pic at the top of the thread which looks like the old Conan Stevens version of Bolg. Maybe I'm going blind or something
I don't recall the exact procession of character concepts and actors, but double-checking just now it seems that Conan Stevens was originally cast as Azog before being recast as Bolg. I think some of the designs were shifted from one of those characters to the other, too. The whole orc villain front has been messy.
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Re: Cgi Bolg
by bungobaggins Tue Dec 10, 2013 4:04 am
Do you think they'll go back and change AUJ so Bolg is CGI for the battle of Arse and Bull?
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Re: Cgi Bolg
by Sinister71 Tue Dec 10, 2013 4:07 am
Nah they'll just change it to another character that gets killed off in the BoAB
Conan Stevens went from being the main bad guy to a 5 second cameo in the whole trilogy...WTF?!!! Bet he's pissed about that
Conan Stevens went from being the main bad guy to a 5 second cameo in the whole trilogy...WTF?!!! Bet he's pissed about that
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Re: Cgi Bolg
by Eldorion Tue Dec 10, 2013 4:09 am
By the sounds of it, Bolg's role in DOS is pretty negligible, so I doubt they'll be too concerned about. At most, they can just say it's actually two different orcs, since Bolg was not identified by name in AUJ. PJ hasn't shown any interest in re-editing any of the films after the EE drops, though.
Edit: Sin beat me to it
Edit: Sin beat me to it
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Re: Cgi Bolg
by Eldorion Tue Dec 10, 2013 4:10 am
Sinister71 wrote:Conan Stevens went from being the main bad guy to a 5 second cameo in the whole trilogy...WTF?!!! Bet he's pissed about that
I was trying to figure out if Conan Stevens is still doing the mo-cap work for CGI!Bolg. I've heard a number of people say that it was Lawrence Makoare, but I couldn't find confirmation with a few minutes of poking around.
It would really suck for Conan Stevens if true, though.
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Re: Cgi Bolg
by Sinister71 Tue Dec 10, 2013 4:12 am
Eldorion wrote:Sinister71 wrote:Conan Stevens went from being the main bad guy to a 5 second cameo in the whole trilogy...WTF?!!! Bet he's pissed about that
I was trying to figure out if Conan Stevens is still doing the mo-cap work for CGI!Bolg. I've heard a number of people say that it was Lawrence Makoare, but I couldn't find confirmation with a few minutes of poking around.
It would really suck for Conan Stevens if true, though.
It was in one of the last two Video blogs Eldo they showed Lawrence Makoare in the Mo-cap suit doing Bolg, i think it was Vlog 12
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Re: Cgi Bolg
by bungobaggins Tue Dec 10, 2013 4:13 am
Makoare can be seen in one of the vlogs doing mo-cap for Bolg. I've forgotten which one though.
I think it's #12.
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I think it's #12.
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Re: Cgi Bolg
by Eldorion Tue Dec 10, 2013 4:14 am
Ah, I didn't recall that. Yeah, seems like Stevens got screwed out of a role in the trilogy. :/ Cast in two separate roles, but both were replaced by CGI with two different actors doing the mocap work.
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