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Post by Amarië Sun Apr 16, 2017 7:24 pm

Pettytyrant101 wrote:{{{ Shocked  Um....bugger...dont know what to do now? Agreement on the Who thread?.....um... scratch So what are we supposed to do now, talk about things we liked?!  Shocked }}}

Say whaaaaaa?


((I haven't seen the ep yet))

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{{Well maybe things will return to normal next ep! Especially as its Cotterl-Boyce's second episode, his first being the much loathed by many In the Forest of the Night - though I seem to recall Figg was more a fan of it than many.
Personally I liked Forest but felt it was underdeveloped and rushed- seemed like a two part story crammed into one and some stuff, like the sister, was left oddly stuck on to it. But the character stuff in it was really good so hoping that strength of his writing comes out again next ep- he has been given the very important 'companions first adventure' story afterall in the line of Rose- End of the World, Martha- Shakespeare Code, Donna- Fires of Pompeii, Amy- The Beast Below and Clara- The Rings of Akenaten. They are a tricky one to write as they set up the tone for the character dynamic.}}}

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Post by Mrs Figg Sun Apr 16, 2017 8:01 pm

I haven't seen it yet either. the link I normally use is bust. Mad
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{{I thought you said you liked it?!! scratch }}}

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Post by Pettytyrant101 Sun Apr 16, 2017 9:41 pm

{{Try here Figg- http://watchseries.cr/series/doctor-who/season/10/episode/1 }}

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Post by Pettytyrant101 Mon Apr 17, 2017 11:30 pm

{{Chibnall was giving an interview about the nendof Broidchurch andnaturally his next job with WHo came up-

'"It's way too early to talk about Doctor Who. There's still an amazing series to go out with Peter Capaldi," he said. "I've been thinking about it for a long time and we're putting a team together. But for another year there is an amazing Doctor, there's an amazing showrunner in Steven Moffatt and I've read the scripts for this series and they are phenomenal."

Whats interesting here think is the mention of putting a team together- presumably he is referring to his previously mooted idea of having a US style writers room. Although he could be talking more broadly- there has not been word on if the production team is changing too as it did when RTD left. So he could be referring to an all new production team, an all new writers team, or both. }}}

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Post by Mrs Figg Tue Apr 18, 2017 1:29 am

ok I watched it. I loved it. this is what I have been waiting for, for years. Razz  I thought it was perfect. Doctor Who has come back as far as I am concerned.

cheers I really like Bill too. afro
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Post by Amarië Tue Apr 18, 2017 7:21 am

I'll wait one more episode - or maybe two - to declare the end of the world, but we must be pretty darn close 'cause I liked the episode and Bill too! Very Happy


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Post by Mrs Figg Tue Apr 18, 2017 1:11 pm

It was just perfect, great acting, nice creepy story, the only thing a bit off was Nardole who is useless, but apart from that, great stuff.
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Post by Pettytyrant101 Tue Apr 18, 2017 1:59 pm

{{I thought Nardole had some good lines, particularity liked his explanation to Bill about how to make a TARDIS-

Nardole- Well first, you have to imagine a very big box fitting inside a very small box.

Bill- Ok, yeah.

Nardole- Then... you have to make one. It's the second part people usually get stuck on.

Was funny delivery in its own right as well as being a nice nod to the 4th Doctor explaining the TARDIS to Leela}}


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Post by malickfan Tue Apr 18, 2017 6:07 pm

I've really liked Nardole since his first appearance, a male and alien companion at last! Giving Nardole some of the wackier comedy/sarcasm/disagreeing with the Doctor stuff allows them to make Bill more normal and down to earth-one of the problems with Clara was she was too experienced/self confident/willing to stand her ground, the 12th Doctor is quite acerbic and kooky and needs a more grounded companion i.m.o to get the best out of him (though I loved the 12/Clara team I do think Bill and Nardole will give Capaldi a more interesting team to bounce off) having two companions-one a normal excited girl, and one a cowardly zany alien robot man makes for an interesting balance.

Moffat has said Nardole takes a supporting role for the first 5-6 episodes to allow Bill to settle in and get experienced, having a more prominent role later in the series.

Nardole although appearing in just three episodes so far, has by this point known and traveled with the Doctor for decades (perhaps as much as a century) so is perhaps the longest serving companion so far, yes he dosen't have much to do at the moment and comes across as slightly useless but Lucas gives the character just the right balance of warm hearted kookyness and cowardly sarcasm.

Kinda reminds me of K9, in a good way.

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{{Three is a good TARDIS dynamic, always thought so. Nod Worked great with Amy and Rory, now looks like I will enjoy Bill and Nardole too- and as you say Malick at lest he is the first non-human companion of NuWho and brings a different perspective to things.}}

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{{Nice this, trailer in the style of the Star Wars Last Jedi trailer}}


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Post by Mrs Figg Thu Apr 20, 2017 8:48 pm

got to say the ending of The Pilot was very derivative of 'Rose' but Rose did it better. that's my one and only gripe, if you really want one. Smile
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Post by Pettytyrant101 Thu Apr 20, 2017 11:12 pm

{{Not sure I see the connection- from what I remember 9 offers to take Rose and she turns it down to stay with a cringing crying Mickey, the Doctor leaves then comes back says 'It also travels and time' and she dumps Mickey instantly on the spot with the following unpleasant exchange Rose-"Thanks"
Mickey- "Thanks for what?"
Rose- "Exactly." and runs off with the Doctor.

In this Bill wants to travel with the Doctor after having seen whats out there with Heather, the Doctor refuses because of whatever the reason he is at the uni is, then changes his mind and decides to take her long with him with the following exchange -
Bill-"What changed your mind?"
The Doctor- "Time."
Bill- "Time?"
The Doctor- "Time And Relative Dimension In Space, it means, what the hell."

So not seeing the similarity, motivations are different fro both Doctor and Companion, set up is different and Bill isn't needlessly cruel to someone who loves her first before she goes.
And Id love to know how Rose treating Mickey like shit right before she dumps him for the Doctor and leaves him literally crying in an alleyway is doing it better. Far more dislikable yes, better no! }}

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Post by Mrs Figg Fri Apr 21, 2017 5:27 pm

Rolling Eyes here we go.
it was very similar visually.
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:facepalm: {{{ Wink }}}

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{{Well I couldn't cope with all this agreeing!!! Mad Mad Yes visually there is a similarity I do agree, there you go, Im agreeing again!!!! Mad This is positively unnatural. Mad }}}

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Post by Mrs Figg Fri Apr 21, 2017 8:32 pm

and we thought Brexit and Trump was weird. Shocked
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Post by malickfan Sat Apr 22, 2017 9:02 pm

My thoughts on Series 10 episode 2 'Smile':

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Post by Pettytyrant101 Sun Apr 23, 2017 12:11 pm

{{Got to admit I did smile (!) at the following exchange-

Bill- Why are you Scottish?

Doctor- I'm not Scottish I'm just cross.

Bill- But is there a Scotland in space?

Doctor- They are all over the place, demanding Independence from every planet they land on. }}}}}}

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Post by Amarië Mon Apr 24, 2017 8:17 am

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Post by Pettytyrant101 Mon Apr 24, 2017 5:24 pm

I like that the TARDIS is allowed to have a personality again- Amarie

{{Not sure what you mean- when did she stop? She had issues with Clara because Clara was a weird time anomaly, she refused to land on Trenzalore and last series she tried to run from the 'ghosts' under the Lake as she didn't like them. Id say the TARDIS is far more a personality under Moffat than previously, hell we even got her embodiment in the Doctor's Wife.
Before that she was just a device they occasionally implied or mentioned was sentient in some fashion but who rarely if ever actually displayed it in a relevant plot way (I'm struggling here to think of an RTD era example where it happens!)

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