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PJs meddlings ?
by azriel Fri Nov 09, 2012 3:33 pm
I wasnt sure where to put this post ? but, as I read LOTRs I noticed a little passage that MAYBE PJ & CO read & twisted ? In the book,the Riders of Rohan chapter,there is a rider,by Eomers side that is named Eothain, Eomer gives Aragorn, called Hasufel & says "may he bear you well & to better fortune than Garulf,his late master!"
In the FILM, (the burning of the westfold) a mother calls her son, "Eothain" & tells him to take himself & his sister to Edoras. She saddles a horse for them to ride & the little girl says says Eothain must not ride GARULF as the horse is to strong. ? (am I more soft in the head than I realised I am ?)
In the FILM, (the burning of the westfold) a mother calls her son, "Eothain" & tells him to take himself & his sister to Edoras. She saddles a horse for them to ride & the little girl says says Eothain must not ride GARULF as the horse is to strong. ? (am I more soft in the head than I realised I am ?)
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by Ally Fri Nov 09, 2012 6:55 pm
As a purist this makes my heart boil with unbridled fury. I noticed this straight away and it ruined the film for me.
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by Pettytyrant101 Fri Nov 09, 2012 7:39 pm
Ally you are back- and just as deserving of a slap round the head as always! 
I'd teach you a lesson if I it wasnt for the fact I cant be arsed- but consider yourself very nearly getting a ticking off for cheek young lady!
I'd teach you a lesson if I it wasnt for the fact I cant be arsed- but consider yourself very nearly getting a ticking off for cheek young lady!
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by Orwell Sat Nov 10, 2012 12:21 am
I can't see this thread lasting... 
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by Ally Sat Nov 10, 2012 1:30 am
The code of ethics and leadership principles will have more of a moral value than a legal value, Orwell.
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by Orwell Sat Nov 10, 2012 2:29 am
Yes, but that's just what you say, Ally. 
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by halfwise Tue Nov 13, 2012 3:32 pm
Azriel - good catch. Never paid any attention to those names. In the film, what did Eomer call the horse he gave to Aragorn? I actually thought that bit was well done where he whistles and calls the horses by name. Tolkien would have approved I feel.
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by azriel Tue Nov 13, 2012 4:15 pm
I think Eomer whistles & says "Hasufel,Arod,May these horses bear you to better fortune than their masters" or something like that ?
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by Mrs Figg Tue Nov 13, 2012 4:31 pm
I thought it was nice he used existing names, rather than inventing them. Although I dislike the escaping kids scenes a lot. I think it was unecessary and took up valuable screen time.
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by halfwise Tue Nov 13, 2012 6:33 pm
Yep, no reason not to recycle names of characters that are mere placeholders in the book.
I was indifferent to the kids, but like the scene only because in the commentaries they talked about the people running around in the background were mainly Maori who kept showing up to be extras. They put wigs on them and called the the "Brohan".
I was indifferent to the kids, but like the scene only because in the commentaries they talked about the people running around in the background were mainly Maori who kept showing up to be extras. They put wigs on them and called the the "Brohan".
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by Eldorion Tue Nov 13, 2012 6:48 pm
Really? I'd always heard "Brohan" used quite differently. 
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by azriel Tue Nov 13, 2012 7:27 pm
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by Norc Tue Nov 13, 2012 7:33 pm
azriel wrote:I wasnt sure where to put this post ? but, as I read LOTRs I noticed a little passage that MAYBE PJ & CO read & twisted ? In the book,the Riders of Rohan chapter,there is a rider,by Eomers side that is named Eothain, Eomer gives Aragorn, called Hasufel & says "may he bear you well & to better fortune than Garulf,his late master!"
In the FILM, (the burning of the westfold) a mother calls her son, "Eothain" & tells him to take himself & his sister to Edoras. She saddles a horse for them to ride & the little girl says says Eothain must not ride GARULF as the horse is to strong. ? (am I more soft in the head than I realised I am ?)
I believe in the book they were offered three horses, Arod and Hasufel were among them, but Gimli refused. also Garulf is a terrible name for a horse, I'm glad they didn't use it for Aragorn's horse, though I would've liked them to have the beginning horse throughout. I like the kids scene, it gives the movie a bit perspective.
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by Elthir Sat Dec 22, 2012 4:51 am
Can someone refresh my memory about Gandalf hitting Denethor?
He hits him three times and knocks him out... or at least knocks him down, right?
He hits him three times and knocks him out... or at least knocks him down, right?
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by Eldorion Sat Dec 22, 2012 5:38 am
Elthir wrote:Can someone refresh my memory about Gandalf hitting Denethor?
He hits him three times and knocks him out... or at least knocks him down, right?
https://youtu.be/qLpPAz0tz98?t=1m11s
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by Norc Sat Dec 22, 2012 12:00 pm
I was gong to put a gif here, but lol. Eldo fixed it better..
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by Elthir Sat Dec 22, 2012 2:05 pm
Thanks Eldorion... I thought I also recalled only one shot to the stomach area -- meaning maybe that was all Jackson's 'Gandalf' did here, instead of three hittings.
But I can see this was not so. Emphasis on Jackson's Gandalf.
But I can see this was not so. Emphasis on Jackson's Gandalf.
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by halfwise Mon Dec 19, 2016 4:51 pm
Okay, I clearly remember having a casting thread, but can't find it. So I just pick something and put this in: we could have had David Bowie as Gandalf!
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/the-real-reason-david-bowie-wasnt-in-lord-of-the-rings_us_584f1fc8e4b04c8e2bb1578e
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/the-real-reason-david-bowie-wasnt-in-lord-of-the-rings_us_584f1fc8e4b04c8e2bb1578e
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by azriel Mon Dec 19, 2016 8:37 pm
I think if Bowie wasn't a high ranking elf he would have played a sinister baddie 
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by azriel Mon Dec 19, 2016 8:40 pm
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by Forest Shepherd Mon Dec 19, 2016 11:13 pm
Taken from the interview with Moviefone.
https://www.moviefone.com/2014/12/19/peter-jackson-philippa-boyens-the-hobbit-interview/
He also speaks about how he is not going to direct a Marvel film.
https://www.moviefone.com/2014/12/19/peter-jackson-philippa-boyens-the-hobbit-interview/
He also speaks about how he is not going to direct a Marvel film.
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by Mrs Figg Mon Dec 19, 2016 11:45 pm
Bowie could easily have been Elrond. But I prefer Hugo.
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by azriel Tue Dec 20, 2016 12:34 am
Cripes Forest, Bucket loads of shit from the outset. I cannot stomach that Philippa Boings ! She brings out the worst in me, or the best ? I'm best when I'm worst 
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by halfwise Tue Dec 20, 2016 4:50 am
Originally supposed to only be two films, the adaptation of the "Lord of the Rings" prequel was then stretched into three, each one more terrifically entertaining than the last.
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We got to sit down with Peter Jackson, who has directed not only ever "Hobbit" film but every "Lord of the Rings" film (and is presumably the second biggest Tolkien nerd in the world after Stephen Colbert)
Where's the vomit emoticon??!!
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