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Post by azriel Thu Aug 13, 2015 1:20 pm

Im thinking of Connery as the Monk in "Name of the Rose", so, going by that, he might have made a decent Gandalf, especially as Connery has aged ( matured ) a bit Very Happy

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Post by malickfan Thu Aug 13, 2015 1:44 pm

ElendilTheShort wrote:Daniel Day Lewis as Aragorn, fits the physical description in the book and supplementary sources very well, if not perfectly.

He actually turned down the role, several times!

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Post by Mrs Figg Thu Aug 13, 2015 3:00 pm

thank goodness, he doesn't look the part.
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Post by malickfan Thu Aug 13, 2015 3:15 pm

Mrs Figg wrote:thank goodness, he doesn't look the part.

He's lanky and skiny, but I think if he put on a few stone/kilograms, he certainly has the charm and acting chops to pull it off, at a guess Jackson and co may have had a different interpreatation of Aragorn in mind before they hired Mortensen as they fires whatshisface for being too young...

Mortensen was excellent as Aragorn, but by no means irreplaceable i.m.o.

I liked John Hurt's performance in the Bakshi film, he would have been a good choice 30 years ago me thinks.

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Post by Radaghast Thu Aug 13, 2015 4:11 pm

Iirc, Connery was offered but turned down Gandalf on the basis of not understanding the story.

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Post by malickfan Thu Aug 13, 2015 4:14 pm

Radaghast wrote:Iirc, Connery was offered but turned down Gandalf on the basis of not understanding the story.

Yeah, he read the book, read the screenplay, but didn't understand the plot, and didn't want to commit to a year filming in NZ.

Apparently he would have been $450 million better off if he hadn't.

I can't picture him as Gandalf personally...


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Post by Radaghast Thu Aug 13, 2015 5:25 pm

Me neither. He could have made a good Denethor, though, I think. Book Denethor, not pathetic slob John Noble Denethor.

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Post by Ringdrotten Thu Aug 13, 2015 10:30 pm

Radaghast wrote:Iirc, Connery was offered but turned down Gandalf on the basis of not understanding the story.

Perhaps Connery could teach Jackson a thing or two.

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Post by Mrs Figg Thu Aug 13, 2015 10:43 pm

James Purefoy could have made a good Faramir. thinking of his Solomon Kane
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Post by azriel Thu Aug 13, 2015 11:03 pm

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Post by Pettytyrant101 Thu Aug 13, 2015 11:32 pm

Connery as Denethor could have worked- but you have the accent problem- Connery only acts is Scots, he cant do anything else.
So do you make all Gondorians Scottish sounding to match?

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Post by azriel Thu Aug 13, 2015 11:48 pm

no worries there Petty, peejers didnt give anyone else anything to say ! Smile

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Post by Pettytyrant101 Thu Aug 13, 2015 11:50 pm

Very Happy Very true- I forgot Gondor is a 1 man state!

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Post by Forest Shepherd Fri Aug 14, 2015 2:09 am

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Post by malickfan Fri Aug 14, 2015 5:49 pm

Pettytyrant101 wrote:Very Happy Very true- I forgot Gondor is a 1 man state!

You are clearly forgetting this bloke:

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Post by Pettytyrant101 Fri Aug 14, 2015 5:54 pm

You are clearly forgetting this bloke- Malick

He had so little to do I wouldn't be surprised to find the character listed in the credits as 'that bloke'

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Post by malickfan Fri Aug 14, 2015 5:57 pm

Pettytyrant101 wrote:Connery as Denethor could have worked- but you have the accent problem- Connery only acts is Scots, he cant do anything else.
So do you make all Gondorians Scottish sounding to match?

Well they made Pippin Scottish for some reason (did they think Thain=Laird?), so why not?

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Post by malickfan Fri Aug 14, 2015 5:59 pm

Pettytyrant101 wrote:

He had so little to do I wouldn't be surprised to find the character listed in the credits as 'that bloke'

The same almost holds true for Bilbo Razz Sad

I always thought they should have just rolled with it and renamed Legolas The Exposition Ninja, he's either shooting people in the eyeballs, or stating the obvious, no wonder he's basically be reduced to an internet meme...

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Post by Pettytyrant101 Fri Aug 14, 2015 6:14 pm

Well they made Pippin Scottish for some reason (did they think Thain=Laird?), so why not? -Malick

I doubt it- there is not hint in PJ's version they know he is supposed to be a Thain or from one of the most important families in hobbit society. Film version is some sort of vagabond that steals fireworks, get drunk in the pub then goes and steals food from farmers for something to eat.

If it were me I would have gone for regional English accents, but all from a small area, so somewhere thats got close by but geographically separate places with localised differences in dialect. The posher of which would be the Pippin, Merry, Frodo dialect (Frodo originally being from Buckland too of course) and Sam and the Hobbiton hobbits would have a different accent, lower class rural but with English reaches of middle class within it to account for your Sack-villes ect.
And I would have cast physically for the different types of hobbit.

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Post by Radaghast Fri Aug 14, 2015 6:52 pm

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Pettytyrant101 wrote:Connery as Denethor could have worked- but you have the accent problem- Connery only acts is Scots, he cant do anything else.
So do you make all Gondorians Scottish sounding to match?

Well they made Pippin Scottish for some reason (did they think Thain=Laird?), so why not?
Yeah, I'd rather a disparate accent than a terrible characterization.

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Post by Mrs Figg Fri Aug 14, 2015 7:38 pm

malickfan wrote:
Pettytyrant101 wrote:Very Happy Very true- I forgot Gondor is a 1 man state!

You are clearly forgetting this bloke:

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Post by Radaghast Fri Aug 14, 2015 7:42 pm

I'm glad that dude wasn't Beregond. He looks lie a lame-ass.

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Post by Forest Shepherd Sat Aug 15, 2015 2:14 am

Laughing Sterling film discussion guys! Very Happy

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Post by ElendilTheShort Sat Aug 15, 2015 8:37 am

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Mrs Figg wrote:thank goodness, he doesn't look the part.

He's lanky and skiny, but I think if he put on a few stone/kilograms, he certainly has the charm and acting chops to pull it off, at a guess Jackson and co may have had a different interpreatation of Aragorn in mind before they hired Mortensen as they fires whatshisface for being too young...

Mortensen was excellent as Aragorn, but by no means irreplaceable i.m.o.

I liked John Hurt's performance in the Bakshi film, he would have been a good choice 30 years ago me thinks.

aragorn is described as tall and lean which is what day lewis is. He also has that noble looking sort of face with the prolific nose and wotnot. To the earlier commentor about Last of the Mohicans, give him that look with the long dark hair, chuck in some flecks of grey, give him the clothes described in the book instead of some pimp looking rock star leather coat and we have an actual numenorean aragorn.

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Post by Radaghast Sat Aug 15, 2015 1:47 pm

Yeah, I agree about Day-Lewis. Not infrequently, when reading the book, I'd picture Day-Lewis as Aragorn.

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