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Post by Pettytyrant101 Fri Sep 19, 2014 1:16 am

Oh I live in buckie hope yet. I will only concede it when the results say so- until then I still hope for a YES.

edit add- couple of results apparently due in soon!

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Post by malickfan Fri Sep 19, 2014 1:29 am

Clackmannanshire Yes 46.20% No 53.80%.


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Post by Pettytyrant101 Fri Sep 19, 2014 1:31 am

Yeah. Hope thats not an omen. The big areas are the keys though. The smaller areas tend to come in first as it takes less time to count.

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Post by malickfan Fri Sep 19, 2014 1:37 am

It's a drop in the Ocean really so nothing to get that worked up about, Glasgow etc are much more likely to swing towards the yes camp as far as I can tell...

Then again I'm in favour of the Union (for now) so I doubt you'd care what I have to say!

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Post by Pettytyrant101 Fri Sep 19, 2014 1:49 am

Just because I dont agree about whats best for the way forward doesnt mean I dont care what people in England think- if its a YES you will still be our neighbours and oldest partners. That doesnt change.
There will be more areas of cooperation than not.

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Post by Eldorion Fri Sep 19, 2014 2:01 am

Was Clackmannanshire considered to be YES-leaning or NO-leaning, going into tonight?
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Post by Pettytyrant101 Fri Sep 19, 2014 2:03 am

Orkney gone for No by 6000 votes- but that was always expected.

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Post by Eldorion Fri Sep 19, 2014 2:03 am

Orkney votes NO, as expected.  10,004 to 4,883. 84% turnout I think they said.
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Post by Eldorion Fri Sep 19, 2014 2:03 am

Watching BBC Scotland's coverage live right now on the official website.

http://www.bbc.com/news/events/scotland-decides/live
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Post by Pettytyrant101 Fri Sep 19, 2014 2:06 am

If you are watching BBC Scotland Eldo you will be witnessing Johan Lamonts amazing ability to look miserable even when winning!

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Post by Eldorion Fri Sep 19, 2014 2:06 am

Gonna go be social with the family since the big constituencies are still far away from reporting, I'd imagine. I can't stay up too late but I will be back in a bit. Very Happy

This reminds me of our awesome 2012 Presidential election thread. Nod
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Post by bungobaggins Fri Sep 19, 2014 2:22 am

Did they only use paper ballots? No rigged voting machines like in the USA?

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Post by Pettytyrant101 Fri Sep 19, 2014 2:27 am

No all paper.

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Post by Pettytyrant101 Fri Sep 19, 2014 2:42 am

Shetland goes for NO. Another expected result however.

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Post by bungobaggins Fri Sep 19, 2014 2:44 am

Laura Maxwell, BBC Radio Scotland wrote:A senior figure in the Better Together campaign tells me Edinburgh is about 60%-40% for "No".

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Post by Pettytyrant101 Fri Sep 19, 2014 2:46 am

That would be bad if accurate.
Aberdeen and Glasgow are the two key areas to watch for though.

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Post by Eldorion Fri Sep 19, 2014 2:58 am

BBC Scotland is now people from both sides arguing with each other. It feels just like US cable news!
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Post by Pettytyrant101 Fri Sep 19, 2014 3:00 am

Well they've got a lot of time to fill!

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Post by bungobaggins Fri Sep 19, 2014 3:01 am

Sounds like this guy is speaking arabic. Shocked

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Post by Pettytyrant101 Fri Sep 19, 2014 3:03 am

Western Isles goes No, just. Thats the main islands all gone No.

Thats Gaelic Bungo. They still speak it out there in the isles.

But thats not a good result, YES had high hopes of winning that one.

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Post by Pettytyrant101 Fri Sep 19, 2014 3:05 am

Going to need some big mainland wins now for a YES to have a chance.

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Post by Eldorion Fri Sep 19, 2014 3:10 am

I had read a bunch of articles recently about the islands (Western and Northern) being just as skeptical of Edinburgh as they are of London, so I'm not shocked by this result. Although one of those articles also said that the Hebrides were a SNP stronghold, despite being lukewarm on the independence issue. Shrugging Still a disappointing result, of course, but it's hard to be too disappointed given the level of engagement and democracy in action here.
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Post by bungobaggins Fri Sep 19, 2014 3:11 am

Following reports that officials are investigating 10 cases of suspected electoral fraud at polling places in Glasgow, Police Scotland have said any crime would be "appropriately investigated".

A spokesman added: "Police Scotland takes the safety and security of the independence referendum extremely seriously and is working with partner agencies including local authorities to ensure the integrity of the ballot."

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Post by Eldorion Fri Sep 19, 2014 3:11 am

And I'm glad that the fog/plane issue ended up not delaying the count. Laughing Everyone I've mentioned that to today (which has been a number of people Razz) has been amused by it, although I'd imagine the same thing is true in, say, Alaskan elections.
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Post by Pettytyrant101 Fri Sep 19, 2014 3:14 am

it's hard to be too disappointed given the level of engagement and democracy in action here.- Eldo

That is a plus. Id rather have independence than a good debate mind you.
But if it is a NO London has to deliver on their promises made or things could go pear shaped very fast indeed.

But it is looking like the NO sides getting an array of companies to make threatening noises about leaving if there was a YES may have paid off, especially when combined with Gordon Brown (who still has a lot of respect up here) making the promise of home rule and federalism.

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