A Midsummer Nights Dream (in Forumshire)

I'll take that as a reconciliation then- Orwell

Not from me it isnt Orwell. I had been enjoying getting back to some writing for the forum, with the operative word there being 'had'.

And as someone who writes, and should feel free to write on any subjects, I dislike strongly this attack by false accusation.

Ally wrote:Take That are a sexy band

Yes, I agree... let's talk about them... great idea, Ally... great... Umm... can you post a photo so we can be distracted by it... know what we're discussing...

I have even better! A video!

Right thats it! Im going to get drunk (well, more drunk)

Pettytyrant101 wrote:Well it must be as it certainly wasnt in mine and I should know I wrote it.

Oddly you didnt object to Amaries all male staff of tight trouser wearers with shirts unbuttoned to their navel?
You dont seem to apply this pc critique to anyone elses writing either-what about the sexualised depiction of characters in Needlhole stories?
Or the entire contents of the Archet Bugle back catologue?
But as soon as I crack one joke about the aging process relating to a woman I am public enemy number one and out to condemn all of womanhood.

I dont get it.

I just wanted to write something fun people might enjoy and have their day brightened up by.
Ill say this for you, you certainly know how to drain all the joy and pleasure out of writing something.

and you certainly know how to write something to drain the joy and pleasure of reading. Neither did it brighten up my day, it pissed me off, so in future if you have pearls of wisdom to roll out, keep me out of it.

Pettytyrant101 wrote:I'll take that as a reconciliation then- Orwell

Not from me it isnt Orwell. I had been enjoying getting back to some writing for the forum, with the operative word there being 'had'.

And as someone who writes, and should feel free to write on any subjects, I dislike strongly this attack by false accusation.

Petty, Julia obviously took what you wrote in a way you didn't intend, but that's the risk we take by trying to be 'observant' and 'funny', don't we all? She has a right to her feelings on this. It won't help matters if you don't make an effort to understand her feeling of offence. The last thing Julia would want is for you to stop writing. Fact is, you write, she flared up in her own inimical style, and now we've all had our say, and now.. well... it's back to normal again, what? (If anything is 'normal' here?  ) Come on. Fair suck of the saveloy, mate!


Now, those sexy "Take That" photos, Ally! {{Quick!!!}}}

I'm worried now that people have been writing offensive stories about me now!

so in future if you have pearls of wisdom to roll out, keep me out of it.- Mrs Figg

I have a better suggestion dont read any of my stories. Then you can still be offended by stuff I never wrote in the first place but without the trouble of having to read anything first.

Orwell- I dont mind she took it other than meant and was upset- thats fine- but she wont accept it was meant in any other way even though I, and you, have explained that already and that offence was the furthest thing from my mind- instead she still insists it was offensive and therefore presumably written to be so. And I dont like that accusation as its simply untrue.

Could someone actually post the 'offending' text please?

Come on guys. You've both had your say. Obviously you're both feeling wounded at the moment. Frankly, I can see both sides. Julia, you took offence and said what you thought needed to be said, and you, Petty, have taken offence at being misunderstood. But shit happens, they say. You know you're both right too. In that circumstance, all you can reasonably do is allow yourselves a bit of oxygen on this. In the clear light of day, I know you'll come around to see that this has blown up a bit more than it needs to - that's all. It's not a life and death matter in the end. I'm not saying you both can't both be angry or upset or geninely offended, but come on, let's move on.

Ally -- those photos?  

Ally wrote:Could someone actually post the 'offending' text please?

Read it in Petty's latest tale, Ally. My view is we move on.

Could someone actually post the 'offending' text please?- Ally

I already did!  In the story, in context- part two.

'Frankly, I can see both sides.'- Orwell

Well on this one Orwell I cant. The only side I see is one where I seem to be singled out for special treatment by Mrs Figg to have a go at me.
This is not the first time she has accused me of writing something I never intended to be taken in such a manner.
I dont mind critique, I dont mind people not liking stuff, I do mind personal attacks that make assumption about me as being inherently sexist or abusive towards or about anyone. That is not on and I will not sit quietly by and allow it.

Oh no! You're not tricking me into reading it! I'll read it on my own terms!

I think we're all clear about what has happened. Julia took what you wrote in a way you never intended, but once something gets in your head you can't just wipe it away. I don't think for a moment what you wrote was offensive - I thought it was delightful and harmless - but Julia took it the way she did. You two are blessed with extreme honesty and fiery tempers when it comes to being hurt and defending your ground. That's one of the reasons everyone loves you two --- well, at least I do! --- but as I said above, it's clear by now what the issues are, and so do we need to reiterate them over and over? I'm not sure there's anything to gain by it. But I'm not trying to gag you. If you or Julia feel more needs to be said, by all means, go ahead. We've survived these things before and I'm sure we will again.

Eh, I think my Blunt picture scared them both away.

You're not tricking me into reading it! - Ally

Well, was worth a shot.  

I think my Blunt picture scared them both away.- Ally

Takes more than a gift to rhyming slang to do that Ally!

" it's clear by now what the issues are, and so do we need to reiterate them over and over? "- Orwell

Thats the problem, the over and over. I havent written much for a while, especially for the forum and when I do I find here I am, again, having to defend myself against  accusations I cant see any founding in for offenses I never meant to cause or even envisioned.
Its like a really shit Groundhog Day, and I am simply tired of it.

 So long as they come back again when things have settled a bit in their minds, all will be well again --- sort of --- I hope.

{{That's the trouble with them, Ally. If they were surficial simple folk like you and I, then they would never have cause to be offended, they'd just assume everyone loves them and nothing said is ever disrespectable or unrespectable. }}} 

Pettytyrant101 wrote:Its like a really shit Groundhog Day, and I am simply tired of it.

Darn tootin'!  But it is Forumshire, remember...  

{{{You overestimate my self esteem & my self worth}}}

Ally wrote:{{{}}}

{{{No I don't --- clearly!  ... and don't you go get all damaged on me, Ally... I have enough on my hands at the moment in the area of damaged feelings without me having to deal with yours too...  }}}

A gentleman is one who never hurts anyone's feelings unintentionalOHMYGOD OSCAR SHUT UP

{{{Well you'd be about five years late....}}}

What about 'intentionally'? Not that I'm a gentleman. I'm a man's man - not some Sensitive New Age Scotshobbit, no way.... {{{Snases* are the 'unintentional' kind, if you know what I mean - and I'm sure you do! }}}


{{{We call 'em 'Snags' in Ozhobbitstan, mind.}}}

Ally wrote:{{{}}}

{{{Oh good.... So I can cross you off my 'to do' list, can I?  }}}