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Post by Orwell Sun Sep 28, 2014 11:43 am

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Post by Orwell Sun Sep 28, 2014 11:45 am

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Post by Pettytyrant101 Mon Sep 29, 2014 3:07 am

Had a rewatch and the dialogue just pings in that one. Great delivery of course from all concerned, but great writing too.

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Post by Orwell Mon Sep 29, 2014 11:49 am

I may be exaggerating a litttle,
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but I think at last they have managed to put in a tasty number of disparate classic Dr Who bits and pieces in a gourmands blend - personalities, humour, darkness and far fetchedness (just enough but not too much) - and I'm delighting in every meal (Clara's dessert). Dr Who has come of age. Just can't pin him down. And Clara is the new Sarah Jane - though I already knew that. Bravo! Fifty years is a long time to wait, but it's been worth it.  cheers

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Post by Mrs Figg Mon Sep 29, 2014 4:15 pm

yeah its getting pretty good. if I had one little quibblet it would be,

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Post by azriel Mon Sep 29, 2014 5:26 pm

Mmm, I noticed that, wasnt keen on it either, Its like SM is hinting that he has a toe in 2 camps.

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Post by Pettytyrant101 Mon Sep 29, 2014 6:30 pm

I didnt get that vibe from the music myself. And I doubt Moffat has a huge input into composition of the music which has always been the area of Murray Gold on NuWho. And he doesnt do the Sherlock music. I cant see Moffat going to him and telling him to make it sound more like Sherlock.
The only time where the two collided was in the xmas episode the Snowmen where there was a deliberate humorous riff on the Sherlock theme when the Doctor disguised himself as Sherlock.

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Post by Mrs Figg Tue Sep 30, 2014 5:28 pm

well it was defo there, it wasnt just my imagination, it was pretty obviously Sherlock type music.
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Post by Pettytyrant101 Tue Sep 30, 2014 6:17 pm

Whereabouts in the episode was it so I can give it another listen.

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Post by Mrs Figg Tue Sep 30, 2014 6:21 pm

erm around the bit where the Doctor was shoving sensors in flower baskets and running around. it involved a lot of running around the school. ish.
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Post by Pettytyrant101 Tue Sep 30, 2014 6:21 pm

Ill give that bit a rewatch.

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Post by azriel Tue Sep 30, 2014 7:56 pm

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Ooooh I doooooo like this new Dr Very Happy Very Happy He's ssoooooooooo masterful Very Happy Very Happy

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Post by Pettytyrant101 Tue Sep 30, 2014 8:29 pm

The word you are looking for Azriel is, Scottish. :brows:

Is this the bit of music you mean Figg-



If so I think there are similar use of instruments particularly at the start but that it is more in the same musical vein than similar to Sherlock, in that its a series of quick scenes with a comedic tone being expressed.

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Post by Forest Shepherd Tue Sep 30, 2014 8:35 pm

Oh my goodness!
My sister and I have been making our way through Season 12. We just finished with the Cybermen, and next was Terror of the Zygons. Anyway, I snuck the first episode this morning over breakfast. It was really good! The tone was mostly serious, the characters were strong, the setting and atmosphere was interestingly Scottish, and there is a pleasant sense of tension and danger that is missing from some of the goofier Baker episodes.
Anyway, great stuff so far! I see why Tennant likes the Zygons so much.
(To be clear, Zygons are from season 13).

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Post by Pettytyrant101 Tue Sep 30, 2014 9:24 pm

I like the Zygons episode but its Scottishness, well lets just say its the type of Scottishness only an Englishman could have written. You can see the Hitchcliffe 'additions' to that throughout.
A bit like his Victorian stuff he has an image in his head of what he thinks it is and not what it actually is.

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Post by Forest Shepherd Tue Sep 30, 2014 10:39 pm

Pettytyrant101 wrote:I like the Zygons episode but its Scottishness, well lets just say its the type of Scottishness only an Englishman could have written. You can see the Hitchcliffe 'additions' to that throughout.
A bit like his Victorian stuff he has an image in his head of what he thinks it is and not what it actually is.
Sure, it was a little belittling how the Scotsmen we see are mostly either playing Bagpipes terribly loudly at inappropriate times or shooting people that venture onto their land. How telling that the piping is a quirky stereotype that the Brigadier and his men must tolerate bemusedly. Conversely, people who do play bagpipes don't seem to be terribly concerned about who hears them, as that's kind of a prerequisite for taking up the instrument.

Anyway, as concerns the shooting, I've only seen the first episode of the story and can't judge how much is simply Zygon wickedness.

I'd say this Hitchcliffe (is he the showrunner for that period or something?) has a few things in common with Moffat when it comes to images concerning the Victorian Era!

(I suppose the fact that the Scots aren't consuming suitably-large amounts of buckie is certainly a factor in your distaste at their representation. Razz )


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I guess the important thing is that the episode works for me as a good story, so far.

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Post by Mrs Figg Tue Sep 30, 2014 11:34 pm

Pettytyrant101 wrote:The word you are looking for Azriel is, Scottish. :brows:

Is this the bit of music you mean Figg-



If so I think there are similar use of instruments particularly at the start but that it is more in the same musical vein than similar to Sherlock, in that its a series of quick scenes with a comedic tone being expressed.

yeah thats the Sherlock music.
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Post by Pettytyrant101 Wed Oct 01, 2014 7:53 am

I guess the important thing is that the episode works for me as a good story, so far.- Forest

Oh dont get me wrong, I like the zygons story, I like the zygons. It just has a few moments that make me cringe.


'Hitchcliffe (is he the showrunner for that period or something?'

Yeah he is the showrunner at this point. And I would go as far as to say that Moffat's Victorian era representation is part homage to this era's representation of all this Victoriana, especially Gatiss written episodes like Crimson Horror


'yeah thats the Sherlock music.'- Figg

Except it doesnt sound like Sherlock music to me other than some similar instruments at the start and the upbeat quirkiness of it.
This series music has been quite interesting from Gold I think. He has dropped a lot of the big orchestral pieces and brought in a quite different sound for 12 so far, there has been a lot of chimes, and some eastern influences-





Its seems quite different from his previous Who stuff to me, less bombastic than it was-




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Post by Mrs Figg Wed Oct 01, 2014 5:32 pm

still Sherlocky though Suspect
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Post by Pettytyrant101 Wed Oct 01, 2014 5:38 pm

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Post by Forest Shepherd Wed Oct 01, 2014 8:52 pm

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Post by Mrs Figg Wed Oct 01, 2014 10:33 pm

So. Its important to nit pick. Twisted Evil
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Post by Pettytyrant101 Thu Oct 02, 2014 12:16 am

lol! A crossover I'd love to see!


Its important to nit pick.- Figg

Thats so typical! Why cant you raise a serious, important point like why grass is the wrong colour or something?! Mad

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